Put an option to reroll Nirvana Tier 3 equipment without transfer cost.

Chrisalys - Dreamweaver
Chrisalys - Dreamweaver Posts: 167 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Suggestion Box
Really, people may find themselves pretty unsatisfied with their adds on highly refined equipment

They would still have to run thousands of warsongs to get badges to do so, and pay lots of EoO/EoD to do so, so why not to give people the option to keep their refinements and shards while honing the adds on their already refined gears?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    You can keep up to +3 for free.


    But honestly, knowing that costs are involved... why on earth would you +10-12 something with adds you DIDN'T like?
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  • Chrisalys - Dreamweaver
    Chrisalys - Dreamweaver Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The matter aint that,

    You can just refine your g15 stuff and reroll it later, you can already have the attack/hp boost without worrying on 1000s of ws to get your ideal adds.

    And makes everything well refined worthless if their adds aren't just good enough.

    So, what costs you guys so much to make it enjoyable for the players?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    It hasn't ever worked like that and you've literally always had to consider what you were after beforehand rather than blow high refines on something you knew wouldn't be worth it and then be upset when you had to re-refine later on. The only thing in the game that keeps refines and shards when transferring for free is base R9 to it's recast... and even that gets rendered null and void thanks to third cast.

    Honestly, I don't see any good reason for this considering how the game has always worked. I mean what's next? Complaining that you can't transfer refines from +10 TT60 to your TT70 because you have to decompose the TT60 first? There's a reason why people say not to refine something too high unless you're getting enough value out of it to be worth it or it's your personal endgame. Making it so that people don't even have to try and think about their decisions is bit silly, IMO. Nothing is consequence free.
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  • X_volcano_y - Harshlands
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Kossy..I want to ask you about something...my case is I hated the status on my weapon which was +6 so I did suicide refines with tisha....and I ended up with it being +12 with 8tishas and 40 mirages...but I still don't like the status what should I do...give up the +12 that I got with HUGE luck?
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands wrote: »
    Kossy..I want to ask you about something...my case is I hated the status on my weapon which was +6 so I did suicide refines with tisha....and I ended up with it being +12 with 8tishas and 40 mirages...but I still don't like the status what should I do...give up the +12 that I got with HUGE luck?

    You should have reroll til you get stats you like before +12 it...
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    X_volcano_y - Harshlands wrote: »
    Kossy..I want to ask you about something...my case is I hated the status on my weapon which was +6 so I did suicide refines with tisha....and I ended up with it being +12 with 8tishas and 40 mirages...but I still don't like the status what should I do...give up the +12 that I got with HUGE luck?
    What Bella said.

    Considering you lose the refine when above +3 anyways, the only thing you were doing when using tishas was... blowing resources you could have saved for when you got adds you actually liked. Sure, it's unfortunate (kinda) that you wound up with +12 instead of what you wanted but at the same time... you can't have been thinking that clearly to have done what you did and thus, consequences. Plus if you had managed to get what you'd originally wanted you wouldn't even have anything to lose. Now, on the other hand, you actually have a refine worth wanting to keep and have to either use Chienkuns or... discard it hope for great luck again.


    On a side note, your issue is why I prefer (and tend to use) lunar based Nirvana. Had I been in your situation, I'd just be able to sell the weapon and use the coin from that to buy one with adds I liked and refine it s well if it wasn't pre-refined to a decent amount.
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  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The nirvana Tier 2 mechanism allows you to rehone status without paying to keep refines/sockets b:bye
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  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,880 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Sorry im not going to log this.

    I believe it is correct how this is in game calling for this to be changed would mean making the game a lot easier. Sorry I don't like making that call. Other people have given very good advice on this subject.

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  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I have had my dark death thorns +8 before I got my so desired adds in it

    The Refinement level did REALLY help me a lot during the process of reroll it.

    Now, Nirvana tier 3 gears are way harder to get materials to reroll, you need to run a same dungeon over and over, and having your gears refined to do so comes really handy.

    So the possibility to refine ahead and reroll later would be REALLY useful for most of the players

    And would NOT change in-game economics.

    I wonder WHY does PWE ALWAYS want to make it difficult to the honest paying/free players?
    We could REALLY use paying 150 gold orbs ahead and worry about adds later.
    People DO NOT pay chienkun stones to keep sockets/refinement on Tier3 nirvana rerolls, so it would possibly be 'killing' a capitalization that does not capitalize at all.

    Please reconsider it.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I would have to disagree about removing that for upgrading, but I do agree for re-rolling. You can reroll for free aside the raps on g15. Removing that requirement on the rerolls would have been nice.

    You have to realize as well people that put high refines on their g15 niv gear thinking that would be their end game gear. Then sometime later g16 niv was released. People could be still farming the coins to upgrade the gear with refines and to include for rerolling. Just a thought
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  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I would have to disagree about removing that for upgrading, but I do agree for re-rolling. You can reroll for free aside the raps on g15. Removing that requirement on the rerolls would have been nice.

    You have to realize as well people that put high refines on their g15 niv gear thinking that would be their end game gear. Then sometime later g16 niv was released. People could be still farming the coins to upgrade the gear with refines and to include for rerolling. Just a thought

    I wish I had the comfort of refining first and worrying about adds later.

    Because the boost from refines REALLY make difference and they could really be of use when running WS over and over.

    See we have an agreement here Mods, please b:bye
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