New Mystic skill Storm Dance damage

Alexis - Lothranis

Storm Dance is an upgrade from Weeping Breeze Dance and is suppose to increase damage from "base magic damage plus 250% of weapon damage plus 3500" to "base magic damage plus 250% of weapon damage plus 8776".

After someone pointed out on the mystic forum that there is no damage increase I tested it on the Rankings mob (for no defense) with no gear on and accounting for every attack add possible and they are right. The constant damage add is still 3500 instead of 8776.

This is a pretty considerable mistake if you take in account what kind of skills other classes got so I hope you don't just ignore this. I also hope you don't sweep it under the rug as just a text mistake.

Zoldi - Morai

Thanks for reporting it and I hope it's gonna be fixed soon (that's not like if it was a cheap one....)

Eryialne - Raging Tide

Yes, definitely thank you! I was so very much looking forward to this skill b:sad

ChevaIier - Harshlands

I've actually always noticed something was off after I got the skill. Although it has become faster, the damage didn't really change....and I thought it was because it was based on "soulforce". But since you pointed this out by the use of the no defence mobs than I guess it wasn't so. I hope they fix this soon...that's quite the substantial error considering that skill is one of our core skills.

Eryialne - Raging Tide

Storm Dance is definitely not an upgrade, upon further testing, and for the high high cost of 60 Primordial Bloods, that is awful. I would love any response whatsoever, even if it's working as intended

blueimage

It appears that the sage version of the skill works fine, but the demon one is broken as you say it is. We'll be reporting that to the devs, but if you have some differing report (such as Sage version being broken), let us know.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

blueimage wrote: »

It appears that the sage version of the skill works fine, but the demon one is broken as you say it is. We'll be reporting that to the devs, but if you have some differing report (such as Sage version being broken), let us know.

Huh... there's no sage or demon version of that skill. It's a merge of 2 skills lvl 100, that have nothing to do with sage or demon. (The 2 skills lvl 100 for that skill doesn't have sage or demon version either). Sage and demon have the same version.

surtr

All skills that require Celestial Sage or Demon technically have separate versions for each path, even if they're otherwise identical.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Surtr wrote: »

All skills that require Celestial Sage or Demon technically have separate versions for each path, even if they're otherwise identical.

Storm dance have 2 versions?

The lvl 100 skill books could be learn by either sage or demon, how come there's 2 versions if the same book could be learn by either a sage or demon?

Some people that did comment on that thread saying they didn't notice a difference are sage.

ChevaIier - Harshlands

blueimage wrote: »

It appears that the sage version of the skill works fine, but the demon one is broken as you say it is. We'll be reporting that to the devs, but if you have some differing report (such as Sage version being broken), let us know.

I believe that the sage one is broken as well, if there is indeed 2 different skill books for different pavs. I recently switched from Demon cultivation to Sage cultivation, and retrieved my Storm Dance again afterwards and there was no major difference. Sage version does hit harder, but that is due to Sage Wood Mastery and definately not the extra 5k dmg. I have always noticed that there was no difference between pre and post upgrade of the new primal skill.

Eoria - Harshlands

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Storm dance have 2 versions?

The lvl 100 skill books could be learn by either sage or demon, how come there's 2 versions if the same book could be learn by either a sage or demon?

Some people that did comment on that thread saying they didn't notice a difference are sage.

Level 100 skills have differences between sage/demon, yes. Clerics are probably best example. iirc, if sage, SoG has a shorter range than demon does (or it did once upon a time anyway). There's also different animations for Elven Boon depending on whether you're sage (looks like cyclone) or demon (looks like IH).

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Level 100 skills have differences between sage/demon, yes. Clerics are probably best example. iirc, if sage, SoG has a shorter range than demon does (or it did once upon a time anyway). There's also different animations for Elven Boon depending on whether you're sage (looks like cyclone) or demon (looks like IH).

I know for cleric, didn't for mystic.

But as Chevalier did mention he was demon and had storm dance and did switch for sage and didn't see a difference on the damage of storm dance so seems to be broken for both culti.

Mysticboob - Sanctuary

The half second faster channel and chance at proc gives you no reason not to get it. It's not like it's doing less damage than before. Plus it looks neat.
However, if the description is confirmed wrong, i wouldn't mind a little extra damage.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Storm dance have 2 versions?

The lvl 100 skill books could be learn by either sage or demon, how come there's 2 versions if the same book could be learn by either a sage or demon?

Some people that did comment on that thread saying they didn't notice a difference are sage.

The skills aren't directly linked to the book. The book just enables you to learn a skill at a certain NPC.
There's one NPC that requires Celestial Demon that teaches you the skill and another NPC that requires Celestial Sage that teaches the skill. The skills they teach actually have different IDs because they have different requirements but they are otherwise the same (usually).

That's why you see 2 versions in the encyclopedia.


Now they could have made them the same skill if they were able to express the requirements differently but you know how lazy the devs are.

Alexis - Lothranis

Ty for your responses and for reporting it.

I am indeed demon so I can't talk about sage. A sage mystic who has it should test it on the rankings mob if you want to be sure about it.

Mysticboob - Sanctuary

I'll post some raw data for sage. Some else can do the maths.

No gear/cards equipped:

Lv 102, 261 spirit, passives maxed (14% skill damage, 25% wood mastery), 3966 base mag att

no invigorate/buffs

damage on test mob: 21,556

Have fun.

Alexis - Lothranis

Also post the magic attack you get from meridian and all titles.

Mysticboob - Sanctuary

107 mag att from titles
236 mag att from meridian
140 mag att from nuemas

I figured these would be counted as part of the base mag attack

Alexis - Lothranis

They also count in the skill's 250% w. damage. (Forgot about nuemas good thing u posted).

The number I got from the formulas (using Storm Dance's 8776 dmg) is 21562. Those 6 points of damage can be accounted by the mob actually having 1 point of defense and me not knowing how the attack formulas round.

But anyways that confirms it works well for sage. When I do the calc for demon I get the 5.2k difference that the demon version is missing.

Now to wait for a fix >.>

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Mysticboob - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'll post some raw data for sage. Some else can do the maths.

No gear/cards equipped:

Lv 102, 261 spirit, passives maxed (14% skill damage, 25% wood mastery), 3966 base mag att

no invigorate/buffs

damage on test mob: 21,556

Have fun.

how much magic do you have?

Mysticboob - Sanctuary

no gear/cards
578 magic

Asterelle - Sanctuary

The mob has 1 mres.
21556/(1.14*1.25*(1+.00025*261))*(40*102+1)/(40*102)-((3966)*(1 +578/100+2.5)/(1+578/100)) = 8775.53

The expected value from the description was 8776.

Zoldi - Morai

So the bug would only be for demon mystics ? (Or it has been fixed ?)

Eryialne - Raging Tide

Hi again! I'm curious if there has been any additional info on the problem for Demon Storm Dance? I'd pray that an additional damage number isn't too terrible to fix on China's end b:chuckle

Eryialne - Raging Tide

Still very much wondering if this has made any progress! 60 Primal Bloods down the drain for a pretty blue effect and nothing else. I wish I had instead spent those on the Absolute Virtue passive 3 times over b:laugh

Eryialne - Raging Tide

24 days later: Friendly reminder from a Demon Mystic that Storm Dance needs the additional damage number looked at, still

Zoldi - Morai

Eryialne - Raging Tide wrote: »

60 Primal Bloods down the drain for a pretty blue effect and nothing else.

I hope you will get good news soon. But "nothing else", really ? The best part is when you can luckily combine with Absorb Soul.
I did get the passives first though (even if I'm sage) because 60 bloods is quite a lot

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

I hope you will get good news soon. But "nothing else", really ? The best part is when you can luckily combine with Absorb Soul.
I did get the passives first though (even if I'm sage) because 60 bloods is quite a lot

If we check how fast they did fix demon Crapplord.. oh wait they never did? It's too bad, but I wouldn't hope too much on them to fix Storm Dance anytime soon...

An other reason to make me enjoy my sage mystic even more. b:cute

Eryialne - Raging Tide

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

But "nothing else", really ? The best part is when you can luckily combine with Absorb Soul.

Luckily, indeed. Holy hell is that a low chance. I'm full T3 +5 armor, +8 helmet and cape, +7 wand. I have 16,497 Soulforce. That's not r9rr level, but it's not exactly lacking.

I sat there with a good Cleric buddy of mine, Zaccy, using it on him over and over to see if it would proc. I counted out exactly 200 attempts just to see if I could ever get it to proc. (honestly, I feel bad making him sit there for like...40 minutes) It procced twice. YAY! So reliable. 1/100 chance. I so very much wish I were exaggerating. It's useless. b:bye

Sage version could very well be fine and dandy, but there IS something very wrong with the Demon version. It doesn't have the extra damage, and the proc is non-existant.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Eryialne - Raging Tide wrote: »

Luckily, indeed. Holy hell is that a low chance. I'm full T3 +5 armor, +8 helmet and cape, +7 wand. I have 16,497 Soulforce. That's not r9rr level, but it's not exactly lacking.

I sat there with a good Cleric buddy of mine, Zaccy, using it on him over and over to see if it would proc. I counted out exactly 200 attempts just to see if I could ever get it to proc. (honestly, I feel bad making him sit there for like...40 minutes) It procced twice. YAY! So reliable. 1/100 chance. I so very much wish I were exaggerating. It's useless. b:bye

Sage version could very well be fine and dandy, but there IS something very wrong with the Demon version. It doesn't have the extra damage, and the proc is non-existant.

For the AS chan effect nah, I'm sage R9rr+10 and it almost never proc, they should have put it at 50 or 75% chance of proc cause atm for me personally it almost never proc sothat part of the skill is disappointing for me, I'm glad that the damage for sage is at least right.

Zoldi - Morai

Maybe we should discuss it elsewhere but AS effect proc maybe around 30% for me (I have the feeling it's more often in PVE than PVP but probably just because I need it more for PVP so more more frustrated when it doesn't proc)
But Ihave 51461 soulforce and unfortunately the soulforce factore is not detailed enough