I miss when GMs would interact with players for fun things

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
edited March 2014 in General Discussion
I was looking at mother of the pack pet(GM only pet, back in beta I think) and I stumbled across this picture in the results....

http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/52/94/5294cc9032db5723e5623d0d9456339a1356640332.jpg

Back when GM's actually cared about communicating with the player database for fun events. I miss killing love dinos with people in cities.

Also, meet a GM, and hide and seek(find the hiding GM giving out hints to whereabouts).
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  • Mistyfied - Sanctuary
    Mistyfied - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Also, meet a GM, and hide and seek(find the hiding GM giving out hints to whereabouts).

    I remember this! GM meet and greet was always so fun! b:pleased I'd love if they would bring it back.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    That image and recent thread topics reminded me of
    Sihndra wrote: »
    Hello my children.

    As you may have noticed, PWI has been attracting the persistent and unwanted attentions of a certain gold farming website whose title undoubtedly stands for an unspeakably taboo act that a barbarian and a venomancer who love each other very much may engage in at their own discretion and webcam framerate.

    Let me assure you that these attentions are as vile as they are illicit, my fair children. Most of you know that buying from farmers is wrong. Not wrong like showing off your 25 APS to a new player and making him submit eight support tickets about a **** blademaster. Wrong as in you wake up to check your catshop to find that you have been paid a visit by the GM fairy; your coin is gone, your items are gone, your friends are gone, the life you thought you led is gone, and your catshop is on an island surrounded by dinosaurs.

    But what you may not know, other than that FrankieRaye has an RBI and batting averages so high that even he does not know them, is that these farmers are the most terrifying thing to happen to PWI since we realized that players could glitch an extra 1,000,000 coin into their bag each time they type I LOVE PERFECT WORLD GMS ESPECIALLY SIHNDRA in worldchat.

    Basically what happened was some gaming site with really awful security got ****, and the hackers got a whole bunch of username/passwords. They then set about trying these logins in PWI with a fervor known only to the great green Earth's most prolific and industrious peoples. Some of the logins worked, so a whole lot of innocent PWI accounts got possessed by malicious users much in the same way Duke Blacke gets possessed by a need to extoll the virtues of every blade of grass on the great green etc.

    So if you buy from this gold farmer site, you are in all probability going to get paid with items that have been stolen and liquidated from your friends and guildmates. While we here at PWE are pleased to note that this practice causes no inflation like normal gold farming, you can imagine the havoc wreaked on your friends' accounts.

    Therefore, I offer my commandment to change your passwords often and do not buy coin from fraudulent third-party sources!!!



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  • Sparafucile - Harshlands
    Sparafucile - Harshlands Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Yes, more active in-game GMs/Mods could only be a good thing
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Yes, more active in-game GMs/Mods could only be a good thing

    I'm active enough to make up for all of them combined!

    ... Just people don't know who I am. b:laugh
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  • Sparafucile - Harshlands
    Sparafucile - Harshlands Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    I'm active enough to make up for all of them combined!

    ... Just people don't know who I am. b:laugh

    I mean active as GMs/Mods, not just riding around Arch on a ghostly unicorn changing your fash at random :PPP
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  • imnotwraith
    imnotwraith Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    http://tinyurl.com/KantoParade


    Kanto came out after being challenged to a 1v1 then had a parade before Maint. (circa 2010? or 2009 i forgot)
  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    if i was a GM i would totally do stuff like this, shame you cant be a GM from home b:surrender
    I will name it tibbles and ride it into battle b:laugh
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  • Vedovis - Lost City
    Vedovis - Lost City Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    one lucky veno forum mod has a Mother of the Pack pet now on Lost City. :( I'm so jelly.
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  • Cytte - Harshlands
    Cytte - Harshlands Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    one lucky veno forum mod has a Mother of the Pack pet now on Lost City. :( I'm so jelly.

    omg really? Ive wanted that thing for ages

    But yea i miss the little things that made this place feel like the the management cared a little about everyone playing enjoying the game, and not just money and personal relationships with certain players.
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It became less about the community, the players, the game, and more about the profit, the money and how to expand.

    We don't even have active forum GMs let alone active in-game GMs. I'm sure it's hard for them to "Manage" a game that they don't play themselves.
    The little things sometimes count more than the big things, those little things add up and can turn a game from just so so to amazing. A little GM activity in game, chatting on wc, maybe watching PK... just even being present? A GM game every other week, nothing huge, nothing majorly time consuming, would help the community moral majorly.

    You only have to look at the forums, the complaints, all the negative threads to know that PWI's community is unhappy.
    Some sign to show that SOMEONE cares about this game would go a long way.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    With our community as is now?

    An attempt at "little things" would get them slammed on for not doing big things. IE: Every maint thread yelling at them for not fixing the RB Quest chain/mount glitch when they do a localization fix... even though the only thing they can control when it comes to fixes is localization... b:sweat
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  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    With our community as is now?

    An attempt at "little things" would get them slammed on for not doing big things. IE: Every maint thread yelling at them for not fixing the RB Quest chain/mount glitch when they do a localization fix... even though the only thing they can control when it comes to fixes is localization... b:sweat

    Still, it would be nice to have some GM interactions in game. Its literally the only thing that i miss from private servers b:surrender
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  • Cytte - Harshlands
    Cytte - Harshlands Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    With our community as is now?

    An attempt at "little things" would get them slammed on for not doing big things. IE: Every maint thread yelling at them for not fixing the RB Quest chain/mount glitch when they do a localization fix... even though the only thing they can control when it comes to fixes is localization... b:sweat

    SO the answer is just do nothing? That doesn't help the situation, yea sure some of us know PWE just localizes the game and wanmei makes it, and some don't its always been like that.
    But refusing to interact with players in general because of something like that? It's hard to not think PWE is just ignoring us and just using us to fund their games.

    I mean heck our CM doesn't know half the things going on, and i think its simply because none of the GMs do cause they're never around unless its to play favorites


    Honestly that planned GM event they did a while back was BS, the beauty of the gm random events was it was something impromptu, they weren't being told to show up (as far as we knew) it felt like they cared even if it was for a few minutes a week.
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    With our community as is now?

    An attempt at "little things" would get them slammed on for not doing big things. IE: Every maint thread yelling at them for not fixing the RB Quest chain/mount glitch when they do a localization fix... even though the only thing they can control when it comes to fixes is localization... b:sweat

    Yes, them getting **** about buggy problems that are yet to be fixed would happen the first few times, but soon people would accept it, and learn to appreciate it.
    It would probably help if there was an official thread about all current bugs and an estimation of when we would be getting the fixes from China that was maintained by CMs/GMs.
    Might put people at ease a bit more... help to keep the community happy?
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    That image and recent thread topics reminded me of -snipped the big and awesome quote of Sihndra-

    I don't know who that is but I will find them, I will kidnap them, and I will make PWI re-hire them. Cause THAT is how it's done. No "no no don't go there" but a full-blown awesomer than Chuck Norris Vs. Bruce Lee, more magnificant than a rainbow robot unicorn, and better than getting lemons from life-warning message for scams.
  • Sparafucile - Harshlands
    Sparafucile - Harshlands Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited March 2014


    Yes, them getting **** about buggy problems that are yet to be fixed would happen the first few times, but soon people would accept it, and learn to appreciate it.
    It would probably help if there was an official thread about all current bugs and an estimation of when we would be getting the fixes from China that was maintained by CMs/GMs.
    Might put people at ease a bit more... help to keep the community happy?

    Is this not what you mean?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Still, it would be nice to have some GM interactions in game. Its literally the only thing that i miss from private servers b:surrender
    I think all of us who were around in the past miss that. Was great just being able to chat in WC and have decent odds of a GM joining in the conversation.
    SO the answer is just do nothing? That doesn't help the situation, yea sure most of us know PWE just localizes the game and wanmei makes it and some don't its always been like that. But refusing to interact with players in general because of something like that? It's hard to not think PWI is just ignoring us and using us to fund their games.

    I mean heck our CM doesn't know half the things going on, and i think its simply because none of the GMs do cause they're never around unless its to play favorites
    You're reading waaaaaaaaay too much into what I said.

    And actually... most don't realize that PWE just does localizations... which is a large part of the problem (seriously how many times do you see complaints on WC or whatever about how GMs suck and don't fix blah blah blah when they have no control over that? I see em often enough).

    When they start showing up in game, it would be best to be accompanied by fixes. of various bugs. Otherwise, the community would slaughter them metaphorically speaking. And I don't know about you, but if I were a person trying to do what I could but being highly limited, I would NOT be all that eager to appear publicly in front of a group of people who I know for a fact would chew my head off for stuff I had no control over.



    Besides, meet N Greets are great but let's not forget how last time one happened, the biggest thing people did afterwards was complain about the lag, it causing disconnects, and ridiculing the GMs about a "lack of foresight" and so on with it. I'd much prefer they be invisible but interact with the community in some public way (outside of maybe an event like that cube race or the old forum hide n seek event) until they started being seen in a decent enough light to not have the majority of people immediately hounding them for every little small issue regardless of whether or not they're at fault.
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Besides the lore and blog event, there are more things coming down the pipeline.

    As a heads up, we're coming up with new events, in-game and on the forums, that should allow winners to obtain items you may not otherwise find in-game, as well as other stuff that you would find in-game. Like the cape, they won't be power items, but something to show our appreciation to you for taking part. While I can't comment on exactly what the prizes will be just yet, we'll make sure that they're up to par with the efforts put in for the events, and are on our list of items we can actually give out.

    I don't know if this will have any bonafide gm interaction, and in fact would not bet on it, but hopefully some of these will breathe some much needed fun into the servers.I personally would love to see more GM interaction. Although if past meet and greets were any indication, I think it would take a while for any meaningful interaction to start back up again. But that doesn't mean it couldn't be done! I still get a chuckle at the "scandal" v4liance caused when he kissed Desdi. b:laugh

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  • Sparafucile - Harshlands
    Sparafucile - Harshlands Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »

    And actually... most don't realize that PWE just does localizations... which is a large part of the problem (seriously how many times do you see complaints on WC or whatever about how GMs suck and don't fix blah blah blah when they have no control over that? I see em often enough).

    When they start showing up in game, it would be best to be accompanied by fixes. of various bugs. Otherwise, the community would slaughter them metaphorically speaking. And I don't know about you, but if I were a person trying to do what I could but being highly limited, I would NOT be all that eager to appear publicly in front of a group of people who I know for a fact would chew my head off for stuff I had no control over.



    Besides, meet N Greets are great but let's not forget how last time one happened, the biggest thing people did afterwards was complain about the lag, it causing disconnects, and ridiculing the GMs about a "lack of foresight" and so on with it. I'd much prefer they be invisible but interact with the community in some public way (outside of maybe an event like that cube race or the old forum hide n seek event) until they started being seen in a decent enough light to not have the majority of people immediately hounding them for every little small issue regardless of whether or not they're at fault.

    I think most people are capable of grasping the fact that GMs and Mods are not the ones that make the patches for bugs etc, at least once it is explained to them.

    The presence of someone who can help with gameplay issues/police harassment issues would be a welcome sight for most players I think; irl Police patrols do decrease crime in an area, but almost more importantly, they hugely increase peoples' confidence that 'something' is being done, and that 'someone' cares

    And I also think that if GM/Mod (especially Mod) presence in-game was a more common sight, then issues with them being mobbed and this causing lag and dcs would be pretty much nullified.
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  • Domethies - Raging Tide
    Domethies - Raging Tide Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    WTB GM account for 1 week b:surrender Ill kick some scammers in the butt, play hide and seek and continually spawn lvl 1 mobs on the pk'ers outside west b:laugh
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    -snip-

    And I also think that if GM/Mod (especially Mod) presence in-game was a more common sight, then issues with them being mobbed and this causing lag and dcs would be pretty much nullified.

    I dunno dude. I've been on these servers for years, and the only thing my presence has caused is random instances being completed, chat spam, fashion displays, and death. But then, I'm not an employee of PWI and have no ability to affect in-game change. The people who did find out I was a mod that weren't faction mates and friends, mostly just asked me random questions. Or complained. Sometimes about things i had no ability to fix. Some were pretty darn cool about it though!

    I suppose in theory it would be nice, if they were to create of in-game mods. BTW, currently, the word "mod" just means Kossy, Kris, Skai and myself, but I'm no longer optimistic about that happening.

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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    I dunno dude. I've been on these servers for years, and the only thing my presence has caused is random instances being completed, chat spam, fashion displays, and death. But then, I'm not an employee of PWI and have no ability to affect in-game change. The people who did find out I was a mod that weren't faction mates and friends, mostly just asked me random questions. Or complained. Sometimes about things i had no ability to fix. Some were pretty darn cool about it though!

    I suppose in theory it would be nice, if they were to create of in-game mods, but I'm no longer optimistic about that happening.

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  • Cytte - Harshlands
    Cytte - Harshlands Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    OPKossy wrote: »
    You're reading waaaaaaaaay too much into what I said.

    And actually... most don't realize that PWE just does localizations... which is a large part of the problem (seriously how many times do you see complaints on WC or whatever about how GMs suck and don't fix blah blah blah when they have no control over that? I see em often enough).

    When they start showing up in game, it would be best to be accompanied by fixes. of various bugs. Otherwise, the community would slaughter them metaphorically speaking. And I don't know about you, but if I were a person trying to do what I could but being highly limited, I would NOT be all that eager to appear publicly in front of a group of people who I know for a fact would chew my head off for stuff I had no control over.



    Besides, meet N Greets are great but let's not forget how last time one happened, the biggest thing people did afterwards was complain about the lag, it causing disconnects, and ridiculing the GMs about a "lack of foresight" and so on with it. I'd much prefer they be invisible but interact with the community in some public way (outside of maybe an event like that cube race or the old forum hide n seek event) until they started being seen in a decent enough light to not have the majority of people immediately hounding them for every little small issue regardless of whether or not they're at fault.
    Hah i probably am, but only because it annoys me to see how PWE treats its flagship game

    Then maybe making that clear would help. I dunno if Harshlands is weird but I've only seen that happen once by one person trying to get others to hound the gm, aside from that, its mostly people saying their existence is a myth since most of us who happen to see a Gm see then moments before Maint doing nothing. Or they complain about certain things that happened n harshlands but I don't want to get this thread locked

    I'm the opposite, while i probably wouldn't be eager to go into the shark infested water I wouldn't avoid like life depended on it, because at least the community could have the comfort of knowing their voice is reaching something instead of being ignored.

    But the first time they did that, did it deter from showing their face around the servers? Yea sure it wasn't the best thought out event but its something saying were here, we play, we see the problems.


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    The presence of someone who can help with gameplay issues/police harassment issues would be a welcome sight for most players I think; irl Police patrols do decrease crime in an area, but almost more importantly, they hugely increase peoples' confidence that 'something' is being done, and that 'someone' cares
    I dunno dude. I've been on these servers for years, and the only thing my presence has caused is random instances being completed, chat spam, fashion displays, and death. But then, I'm not an employee of PWI and have no ability to affect in-game change. The people who did find out I was a mod that weren't faction mates and friends, mostly just asked me random questions. Or complained. Sometimes about things i had no ability to fix. Some were pretty darn cool about it though!

    I suppose in theory it would be nice, if they were to create of in-game mods. BTW, currently, the word "mod" just means Kossy, Kris, Skai and myself, but I'm no longer optimistic about that happening.

    I think it'd be nice if some of the mods turned GM for a bit, I'd feel better cause i know ya'll play so you know the game situation in most servers, you already have a forum presence.


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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    I think it'd be nice if some of the mods turned GM for a bit, I'd feel better cause i know ya'll play so you know the game situation in most servers, you already have a forum presence.


    Woops thought i hit advanced edit D:

    b:cute That or one of the other more helpful, non-mod players. Actually, you'd be surprised about some of the GMs play history. Some of them know things about this game, and some of they don't. It's a pretty mixed bag. But that's kind of to be expected. I just wish the ticket system was a bit more customer friendly.

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  • Sparafucile - Harshlands
    Sparafucile - Harshlands Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited March 2014


    I suppose in theory it would be nice, if they were to create of in-game mods. BTW, currently, the word "mod" just means Kossy, Kris, Skai and myself, but I'm no longer optimistic about that happening.

    Sad that there are so few active Moderators. I'd volunteer myself, but I'm back to work next week, and my internet time from then on will be severely limited, I'll be lucky if I have time to post in Off Topic Forum (my favourite), let alone have time to trawl for trolls etc
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Is this not what you mean?

    I am well aware of the existence of the quality corner, but there are hundreds of threads, no average PWI player is going to search through threads to find a CM/GM response to a bug/glitch/problem, to them that's not "easy".
    If you go into the lower depths you'll see numerous threads closed, threads created by people who didn't look or even bother to find a response to their problem in a thread in the Quality corner.
    Those threads probably read something like "WHEN IS THIS GOING TO BE FIXED?!!?"
    Because people can't be bothered to go searching through hundreds of threads, And to be honest I don't even blame them. There should be one thread that contains current bugs, the status of what is happening with them and when we should expect to see a fix for it, that is updated when new info comes in by the CM(s).

    Fixed bugs could be put in a different colour or have a̶ ̶l̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ so we can see that there is positive movement towards helping the community of PWI and something is actually being done.
    And it'll be in one big and easy to find/read thread that will have official information written by our CM(s) GM(s).
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I do miss things like these!

    I remembered when I got kidnapped to the LoveDinoIsland and I was made to kill penguins named after my friend's toon o_o
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  • Evalria - Sanctuary
    Evalria - Sanctuary Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    There should be one thread that contains current bugs, the status of what is happening with them and when we should expect to see a fix for it, that is updated when new info comes in by the CM(s).
    You mean, this?
    It is even stickied. If people looking for such information can't even see that, they are not really looking hard enough, thus don't care, thus having information doesn't really make a difference.

    If you meant older bugs than that, if they haven't got fixed or given attention by now, it is probably futile to hope they will be addressed... And there is most likely a reason, even if one that truly dissatisfies us.
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