Item - Dream Guardian Scroll - unclear description

Clergywoman - Raging Tide

recently i won a Dream Guardian Scroll.
i was about to use this item to pvp, but it has been called to my attention that the item-description differs from the 'regular' Guardian Scroll.

it says on the the regular Guardian Scroll:
"This item prevents EXP Loss, Item Drop, and Gear Shatter
upon death when in inventory. Has no effect in Territory Wars,
Arenas, and some other locations. Guardian Scroll will be consumed."

but it says on the Dream Guardian Scroll:
"Prevents you from losing EXP
and most items when your character dies.
Protects you against dropping DQ items
from the Assassin ability Spoils of War.
Consumed on death."

what does "most items" mean? which items can drop, which items cannot drop?
it takes several thousands of dollars to make some items and/or years of playing to acquire those.
a safeguard that prevents losing such items, deserves unambiguous clarity in the description of its effects. "most items" is terrifyingly vague! i humbly request carification and reassurance on that matter, and suggest to adjust the item-description accordingly.

Clergywoman - Raging Tide

asked on server: no one knows for sure.

posted in quality corner: got moved to general without response or reason (might be tranlation error, hence my post there).

sent ticket: been told to check forums and wiki.


yet, no one seems to have a definitive answer, just rumors and guesses. b:sad

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide

Bind gear and items worth $$$$$

Clokey - Harshlands

Clergywoman - Raging Tide wrote: »

what does "most items" mean? which items can drop, which items cannot drop?
it takes several thousands of dollars to make some items and/or years of playing to acquire those.
a safeguard that prevents losing such items, deserves unambiguous clarity in the description of its effects. "most items" is terrifyingly vague! i humbly request carification and reassurance on that matter, and suggest to adjust the item-description accordingly.

so guardian scroll and Dream Guardian Scroll is same, Guardian Scroll = Tradeable scrolls and Dream Guardian Scroll = Same Guardian Scroll "Bound", with both u cant drop anything... -.-!
of course in WS, FSP, UCH, HDD it wont desapair/Drop nothing or lose exp

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Well there are items that are designed to "Always drop on death" like the Hearts you get in Blood Theater. Also the Guardian Scroll obviously won't prevent the loss of itself. Still I've heard about bugs where other items drop when they're not supposed to. For that you have to file a ticket.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

and sometimes stories of the GA themselves dropped >.>

Cytte - Harshlands

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

and sometimes stories of the GA themselves dropped >.>

this happened to someone infront of me once.
Not sure if anyone really knows, but it's probably what Astrelle said about things designed to drop on death.

TZoner - Raging Tide

Does a GS stop u from dropping the appropriate items when a Sin uses the skill Spoils of War before killing you? If not that would also answer the issue.

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »

Does a GS stop u from dropping the appropriate items when a Sin uses the skill Spoils of War before killing you? If not that would also answer the issue.

Yes, it does. It even states this in the skill itself.

Metalogue - Archosaur

I was PKing with some friends and one person dropped a stack of IGs with the dreamchaser guardian scrolls. We couldn't be 100% sure it was the person in question with the scrolls that dropped the IGs - but everybody else had regular GS and not many others died in that round of PK.

so... yeah, I'm pretty careful using these with expensive stuff in my bag.

Manii - Harshlands

I dropped twice using these scrolls, npc'd em. First drop was signets, second was pots.