Fails and Odds of every day squads/gaming

Colum - Raging Tide

b:surrender How about a wined 79 squad where everyone decide to start Stygean before my sin is at the boss and they all die.

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:surrender How about a wined 79 squad where everyone decide to start Stygean before my sin is at the boss and they all die.

b:laugh lol that's terrible -- scratch that, they're terrible.

Fail_BM - Raging Tide

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:surrender normal 90+ squads seem to work better

Actually I think FC is very random. You can get in a bad, good or pro squad randomly. I have seen many 90+ fail squads @_@

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:surrender How about a wined 79 squad where everyone decide to start Stygean before my sin is at the boss and they all die.

This happens a lot, squads are not aware of who is still outside or if someone is on his way. I try to tell them to wait every time I see missing squad members.

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So, I saw someone LFM brim like one hour after reset, I was like "oh, it is brim today. I better join that squad now", I join and go to BH guy to notice BH1 is Linus. Well, I was in squad already, so I decide to help.

Just to point out something, I hate brim. It is the kind of instances people do not know how to handle, or if you are too squishy, you die.

We start with a R9 wiz, reborn seeker (his gear wasnt very good), BM, sin. They rush to the first group before I stone inside, so I hurry up before they die. There I did notice both HA squad members are pretty squishy, magic mobs were hitting them for 1/3 of their HP and the wiz was taking aggro all time (who was squishy too).

At second group BM says "HF ready" and rush, with heals or WoP on him, not letting anyone what he was going to do. He roars, but before I finish my 2 second IH, he gets 3 shotted. Seeker AoE and take aggro and wiz uses DB, but I managed to save them.

I rezz BM and we continue to the 3rd group. While we were getting there someone aggro a group of 4 mobs while the BM (again) rush without heals, trying to save this person, I die for first time.

There, then, I told them I am not going to heal if you don't aggro them all, because heal causes aggro and I am an easy kill in there.

We reach the fork where the torture machine is, nobody wants to pull this time. After 2 minutes of lol'ing the seeker rush and dies because I could cast anything. Wiz follows him because she used DB, then BM and, ofc, me and sin.

At this point BM gets made because he thinks the cleric need to BB every group, but I tell him I am not going to BB if they go not aggro anything. He leaves. Wiz leaves as well and someone else I don't remember.

I head back inside and revive who was still in there, when I was about to leave, I see the seeker says "LFM brim 3 spots", and a 101 barb, RB mystic and someone else joins. I thought I could work this time, but the barb says he is BM's main. I thought he was about to tell me something, but he just moved in.

Fine, everyone buffs and stuff, and he starts to pull like in FC. I BB and everything in fine, until we reach the rangers. I thought he knew I could not use BB near to them. But he just pulls everything, I aggro 3 mobs trying to stay away from ranger's AoE and I die. I resurrect thanks to mystic's buff, but rangers were too far away from everyone, so they spam some more AoE and I die again. I return to town to find out I am dead, again, because one of the rangers AoE'd when I was leaving the instanceb:laugh.

At this point I see SM was about to start (missing 5 minutes), it wasn't enough to even run back as cleric, so I closed the client.

From that day on, I think it 3 times (I used to think it twice) before I join a brim squadb:surrender

Boomz - Harshlands

The squad I run fsp with is so overpowered that the toad boss resets his entire hp at about 2m cause we get him down there in about 6 sec and we have to kill him twice. It only takes about 30 sec to kill him even with the hp reset, but still its just so funny. I imagine him saying something along the lines of "NO your squad is too op I will reset my health cause i can't die this quick!"

JessJess - Raging Tide

When I was low level doing BH in Hallucinatory Trench...ran straight onto the platform with all the mobs and both bosses while watching tv. b:cute

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

My dream squad=5 Naked rich puerto ricans asking me if i want frys with that shake.

Sylki - Harshlands

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

Oh and the mystic used befuddling creeper on bosses instead of letting me devour.

yea...I hate it when mystics use befuddling creeper..I wish they'd realize other classes have better debuffs than their plant. mystics need to learn other classes to b good mystics. b:surrender if there's a sin, cleric, barb, or veno in squad..DON'T use befuddling creeper...each one of these toons have debuffs that are better than a creepers debuffing ...but no...mystics use it..and kill the debuffs of the other classes .-.

but to stay on topic... funny thing that happens to me most every nw.
I randomly take the flag in a capture the flag if there seems to b no other tanky type of person around... I'm a cleric ok? normally a cleric wouldn't take the flag...but what tends to happen is I get like 4-5 melee ppl on me...u'd think I'd die right? no...what happens is I'm being hit so much that they proc my r9rr wep so I keep getting a spd boost every 5 sec...oh how I love that wepb:chuckle

Colum - Raging Tide

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

Actually I think FC is very random. You can get in a bad, good or pro squad randomly. I have seen many 90+ fail squads @_@

Of course there's fail squads amongst these as well but I seem to have even worse luck when reborn people are involved... b:laugh

This happens a lot, squads are not aware of who is still outside or if someone is on his way. I try to tell them to wait every time I see missing squad members.

Nowadays it's at least easier to check it because of the new revamped maps in some instances. I always press T when I'm at a boss to check everyone are there before I attack.

Kazeodori - Heavens Tear

BH59, I'm playing on my alt cleric. Friend invited me because I needed the instance plus wanted more experience with being cleric for a group around my level. Good mix of classes, only one reawakened toon, a seeker.
So going up to Zimo, and I'm healing the seeker and he yells "STOP HEALING ME" and I'm like... "Huh? It's my job!" He rages that he has pots and stuff to heal, totally ignoring my comment that I save him pots, and finally quits squad saying he can solo it.
Rest of us finish the unwined bh59, no trouble at all, I get to heal.

If he could solo it, why the hell did he join a random squad for bh then?

Colum - Raging Tide

I don't even know how I manage to do this but many times when I join the squad as a DD barb or when I'm going to DD easier bosses instead of tanking I always end up getting aggro.

There was one SOT where we had another barb tanking, I was DDing in human and kept aggro the whole time.

Other example is a certan Flowsilver Palace squad where I was the only barb and I decided to DD at Tyrant Prince until boss would go rampage... apparently I held aggro from that too in human form the whole time. b:sweat

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

I don't even know how I manage to do this but many times when I join the squad as a DD barb or when I'm going to DD easier bosses instead of tanking I always end up getting aggro.

There was one SOT where we had another barb tanking, I was DDing in human and kept aggro the whole time.

Other example is a certan Flowsilver Palace squad where I was the only barb and I decided to DD at Tyrant Prince until boss would go rampage... apparently I held aggro from that too in human form the whole time. b:sweat

Always those damn r9rr archers stealing agro from me in Flowsilver Palace. b:angry I Lol'd when one of them took agro on the toad boss.... Yeah I bet his butt puckered.

Colum - Raging Tide

I was told FSP is impossible to do without a purge.

b:shocked I think I have haxed Flowsilver somehow, most of my squads dont have r9rr archer or veno and I'm too lazy to try proc clean sweep on other than Mushi.

WannaBM - Archosaur

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

I was told FSP is impossible to do without a purge.

b:shocked I think I have haxed Flowsilver somehow, most of my squads dont have r9rr archer or veno and I'm too lazy to try proc clean sweep on other than Mushi.

I honestly must say that i always make sure i have purge for mushi, so i never really tried handling his frenzy other than invoke till purged. I dont even really know how much his frenzied attack hurts. Is it tankable after invoke ? with dew star / solid shield maybe ? (to have protection lasting till it dies) or running away from it if you have build up enough agro that it wont swap while others are attacking it while it chases you ?

WannaBM - Archosaur

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

I don't even know how I manage to do this but many times when I join the squad as a DD barb or when I'm going to DD easier bosses instead of tanking I always end up getting aggro.

There was one SOT where we had another barb tanking, I was DDing in human and kept aggro the whole time.

Other example is a certan Flowsilver Palace squad where I was the only barb and I decided to DD at Tyrant Prince until boss would go rampage... apparently I held aggro from that too in human form the whole time. b:sweat

Yep thats quite common
I asume youre demon strength too b:laugh
With my G16+6 axe i only have agro standing if there are no strong archers or OP casters in the squad. Since an R9+10 weapon should add something like 50% to my dmg output i dont think a full R9 demon strength barb will be outagroed a lot.

Colum - Raging Tide

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

I honestly must say that i always make sure i have purge for mushi, so i never really tried handling his frenzy other than invoke till purged. I dont even really know how much his frenzied attack hurts. Is it tankable after invoke ? with dew star / solid shield maybe ? (to have protection lasting till it dies) or running away from it if you have build up enough agro that it wont swap while others are attacking it while it chases you ?

Oh no Mushi's frenzy stops quickly after invoke and you do not need a dew or solid shield to tank it. It doesn't last til the end of the battle.

//EDIT if you look at normal chat, I've noticed his frenzy ends when he says "Um..."

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Yep thats quite common
I asume youre demon strength too b:laugh
With my G16+6 axe i only have agro standing if there are no strong archers or OP casters in the squad. Since an R9+10 weapon should add something like 50% to my dmg output i dont think a full R9 demon strength barb will be outagroed a lot.

Yes I am demon strenght. Getting used to tanking FSP and BH SOT in human form when other barbs are around since my damage output seems to bypass most others. b:surrender yet I get told how barbs are the weakest damage class.

Pistdoff - Archosaur

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »

A sin with R9rr set, +12 daggers... Was doing 1.4k base to me... I was unbuffed.

Dafuq? I'm level 71 rebirthed twice in r9rr+7 all across. Later a cleric sent me a duel and lowest hit was around 3.4k (T3+4 wep). At least she had enough of meat inside her skull to know to only use magic attacks.

I remarked the low damage to the sin... She simply replies, "Well I didn't crit"

*facedesk*

barbs are more Pdef than Mdef

My fail is consistently accidentally on purpose hitting squad stealth on full pulls in Lunar 2nd and 3rd valley b:chuckle

WannaBM - Archosaur

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

Oh no Mushi's frenzy stops quickly after invoke and you do not need a dew or solid shield to tank it. It doesn't last til the end of the battle.

//EDIT if you look at normal chat, I've noticed his frenzy ends when he says "Um..."

Oh, i always thought it sais "Um..." when it ends because it was purged

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear

I like logged on the game and got in this squad you know.And then I did some playing and was like..damn I been doing the same **** everyday for years,and was like this **** is boring so I went afk and did like some real like real life stuff like stuff and then I cam back inside my house and like logged off and stuff you know.

Samaranight - Sanctuary

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

I don't even know how I manage to do this but many times when I join the squad as a DD barb or when I'm going to DD easier bosses instead of tanking I always end up getting aggro.

There was one SOT where we had another barb tanking, I was DDing in human and kept aggro the whole time.

Other example is a certan Flowsilver Palace squad where I was the only barb and I decided to DD at Tyrant Prince until boss would go rampage... apparently I held aggro from that too in human form the whole time. b:sweat

You do have aggro skills outside of tiger form.. maybe you were hitting them by accident?

LOL that reminds of this mini argument I had with one barb. He was wondering how I knew the names of all his skills...

Pistdoff - Archosaur wrote: »

barbs are more Pdef than Mdef

My fail is consistently accidentally on purpose hitting squad stealth on full pulls in Lunar 2nd and 3rd valley b:chuckle

AHAHA.

WannaBM - Archosaur

Samaranight - Sanctuary wrote: »

You do have aggro skills outside of tiger form.. maybe you were hitting them by accident?

Correct, but its only 1, and it only adds a little agro (like devour) it does not bring you to the top of the list like flesh ream. It is one of the 5 skills in my macro, it probably adds 10%-20% agro max on top of the dmg output. So ye, we dont need to be top DD to hold agro standing, but it does prove that barbs are not far from being the top DD when they do hold agro standing.

Colum - Raging Tide

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Oh, i always thought it sais "Um..." when it ends because it was purged

Nah, he will say it without the purge as well b:chuckle I will pay attention to the time it takes from the frenzy to wear off next time I do FSP without purge.

Samaranight - Sanctuary wrote: »

You do have aggro skills outside of tiger form.. maybe you were hitting them by accident?

I am aware I have aggro skills outside of tiger form and yes I'm sure I did not hit them.

//EDIT wanted to add that I do not usually use PA when there's another barb in squad (or several BMs spamming glacial spike and hf or veno)and Untamed Wrath is sure nice for chi and little threat but not very useful at Mushi and LoC.

Evryn - Morai

Personal fails and wins:

Flowsilver:
Ahh, good old Flowsilver. Been in there for less then a week now, so still a total noob on it. First time in on my BM was because a squad was specifically asking for one - presumably for HF. Didn't have any info on the instance other then a few walkthroughs I'd seen. Went better then expected right up to Succubus. Then... that thing kept healing itself, and the squad couldn't kill it, even with HF.
Took me a while to figure out that one Shadowless Kick solved that problem in a hurry... b:surrender

Flowsilver again, on my cler this time. Healing there mostly seems to involve chromatig heal spam, as there's only a few places where BB is useful. Fine by me, gave me a chance to debuff the bosses in addition to healing. Went fine up to frog... then people kept dying despite the health not going down. Of course, noone had explained that the Axe Force debuff does not have a debuff icon and can only be spotted by the visual on the player, and needs to be puri'd asap. Much rage ensued, until people realised that I literally didn't know.
You learn the hard way I guess. b:pleased

Out in the field: I'm sure most long standing players have had this happen. Was out doing a base quest, stomping a few spiders on a rare spot that doesn't have a bazillion bots killing em. Then, a worldboss spawns right on top of me, right when I was AOEing. Needless to say, that battle was over in seconds. And not in my favor.
Glad I took Ancestors Blessing as a priority skill for my cler b:victory

BH69, a while ago. Seeker figured that what a kitty could do in terms of pulling, he could do better. Unfortunately for that seeker, a lot of the mobs in BH69 immobilise you, then pummel you with mainly wood damage. After the rest of the squad chewed away the mobs that had reset, and a res later, I figured he'd learned to leave pulls to the barb... but no. "I'll try again - it'll work this time."
No. It did not. It did however give my cler more res practise. b:chuckle

ichselba

When I was in FCC exp room for the first time with my cler at lvl 85 I wondered what quest I could take at that npc where the boss was located....after picking I knew what this quest is for.....

WannaBM - Archosaur

Evryn - Morai wrote: »

Personal fails and wins:
Of course, noone had explained that the Axe Force debuff does not have a debuff icon and can only be spotted by the visual on the player, and needs to be puri'd asap. Much rage ensued, until people realised that I literally didn't know.
You learn the hard way I guess. b:pleased

Hell yes it has an icon. And it even stays there for like 10 frickin seconds before it kills the player. So much time... It amazes me how many clerics manage to make it to level 100 and rebirth and still not being able to properly purify when needed.

And if you dont say that it is your fist time, people probably wont tell you what to do. So tell it at the start and ask for help.

Evryn - Morai

It wasn't my first time there - but the cler who introduced me to playing cler in flowsilver hadn't mentioned the need for purifying at frog. As for the icon, what does it look like? I've looked for it every run now, still not spotted the damn thing. I'll look for it again tonight I guess...

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

Evryn - Morai wrote: »

It wasn't my first time there - but the cler who introduced me to playing cler in flowsilver hadn't mentioned the need for purifying at frog. As for the icon, what does it look like? I've looked for it every run now, still not spotted the damn thing. I'll look for it again tonight I guess...

It looks the same as the DoT the wood boss in WS hits you with right before you kill him.

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

It looks the same as the DoT the wood boss in WS hits you with right before you kill him.

Wrong, and right. The animation is similar, but the debuff icon looks like the one for Telekinesis.

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wrong, and right. The animation is similar, but the debuff icon looks like the one for Telekinesis.

^Yep looks like that. And just in case you aren't familiar with Telekinesis, if you are more familiar with AEU's Chigo boss, it's the same exact thing as his aoe debuff that will one shot those who don't get rid of it within X amount of time. Like a brownish orange icon that, to me at least, looks like a little sandstorm or something.

Also, sometimes when players are buffed up the wazoo sometimes the Toad's debuff icon doesn't show up because they already have a ton of icons (honestly hardly ever happens, should be able to see the debuff most if not all the time). A good way to tell when someone is debuffed in this case is Toad will stun only the one person for a short time along with the debuff attached to said stun (not his aoe stun). Stun should appear right at the front of their icons whereas the debuff icon appears at the end.

Colum - Raging Tide

Did I already mention I hate it when a sin in squad decides it's OK to stealth and go to wait to the boss they need without helping the squad to kill the other stuff... b:sweat Then when I tell them to come help us, they inform me they're going to kill the boss they stealthed at just to be a *****.

Evryn - Morai

Funny one I remember from a while back.
BH Aba squad was sending repeated calls over the worldchannel for a cleric. I was busy doing Morai dailies on my cler, so I just ignored WC calls until done - but after 15 mins they were still asking (it was a low time on the server, past midnight). So I send the caller a message "hey, I'm out in Morai, takes me a min to turn in the quests and get over there".
His reply: "That's okay, we're not going anywhere..."
I join to see a total squad wipe of 6 sins, 2 seekers and a veno. Naturally, they ran themselves aground at Puppeteer without a healer.

Achievement: Graveyard Shift. (Revive all of your squad members in the same 5 minutes)

I got over there ASAP, res'd the lot of them and we did manage to finish the run without too much trouble.