Meanwhile in China..

nanbo554

Went over to the CH PW site forums. No real general or discussion threads. Replaced by ofricial: " post your thoughts and ideas. Our new stance is only to update and design the fame around player feed back *insert paragraphs or how plyers mold the game regarding class and content balance. Not one but 2 (first) threads.

Problem PWI??

Their site even boast what an international sufcess the game is and has little stock market ticker. Floating in the forums lol.

"oh but its hard managing servers".
Their servers are divided by region andbInternet company. So north region company x = Tear server, which could be shared by south region depending on what net provider is used. Any ways. Thought id share after reading posts here of "No one listens to us, why populations flux" sake bugs sinfe 10 years ago. No wonder ".etc etc...


Its ok though . I read their posts and they chat about *** tolerence, Justin Bieber and other odd subjects... Dat 3 million users ticker though... I bet its catshop lag hell over thereb:chucklex

Miugre - Heavens Tear

For what it's worth, the CM... when we have a full-time one... usually does try to collect community opinion well enough. The problem is, all our suggestions have to cross the pond to reach the devs. That's going to naturally isolate us, and it does.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

your comparing a whole different country
to top it off, think of PWE as a retailer for PWchina, you wont find much versatility there.
Even PWjapan is much closer to PWI, if that tells you how much of a gap there is from CN and international

freygin

PWI is a bit different from PW CN, for example, there is no Nirvana 3rd recast in PW CN, I think it's made available in PWI because they created a huge gap in gears between heavy cash shoppers and casual player by selling R9 mats in Item Mall, I guess Nv 3rd recast is their solution to content their players before they all rage quit for only being one shotted target practice by r9 people without any chance to fight back.

PWI also has different furnaces for exchanging Supply Tokens, the cost in gold and Supply Tokens is way cheaper here in PWI than the original furnaces on PW CN. Without R9 mats being sold in Item Mall, even acquiring Warsoul weapon would take a long time and with hefty price, upgrading R9 is also not that 'easy' and 'cheap' as it is here.

Also +10 dragon ball can be said cheap here, we can just make our way to +9, use +10 dragon ball and dice it to to +12, without a cheap +10 for transit before making it +12, it would cost a lot more than now.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

nanbo554 wrote: »

Dat 3 million users ticker though... I bet its catshop lag hell over thereb:chucklex

The current state of Archosaur (as of this second):

http://share.pho.to/4gZ2e

This is a perfect example of why we are so looked down at..

There's a lot of good players over there, not so many shops, and in general they are much more actively involved in PW

@freygin: China's r9 3rd is earned in NW, and costs about 350mil to make (AFTER getting the materials)

Fail_BM - Raging Tide

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The current state of Archosaur (as of this second):

http://share.pho.to/4gZ2e

This is a perfect example of why we are so looked down at..

There's a lot of good players over there, not so many shops, and in general they are much more actively involved in PW

@freygin: China's r9 3rd is earned in NW, and costs about 350mil to make (AFTER getting the materials)

Almost looks like RT during night timeb:chuckleb:avoid

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

Almost looks like RT during night timeb:chuckleb:avoid

middle of the day for them

nanbo554

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

your comparing a whole different country
to top it off, think of PWE as a retailer for PWchina, you wont find much versatility there.
Even PWjapan is much closer to PWI, if that tells you how much of a gap there is from CN and international

YEs I did compare two different countries...but the same product, hence the same rationality you will use in comparing Japan etc..
I know the USA has no hands on development tools, but they sure do have our tickets and forums to send over. And if people can not use google translate then they are lying and I have poo in a box to sell you

nanbo554

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

For what it's worth, the CM... when we have a full-time one... usually does try to collect community opinion well enough. The problem is, all our suggestions have to cross the pond to reach the devs. That's going to naturally isolate us, and it does.

agreed

DeffyNature - Archosaur

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The current state of Archosaur (as of this second):

http://share.pho.to/4gZ2e

This is a perfect example of why we are so looked down at..

There's a lot of good players over there, not so many shops, and in general they are much more actively involved in PW

@freygin: China's r9 3rd is earned in NW, and costs about 350mil to make (AFTER getting the materials)

OMG seahorse shops, can we get a close-up,please? b:dirty

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear

Game looks dead over there and they prob have their retired shops out auto botting for hours on end.

Templar - Sanctuary

No this is real meanwhile in China

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4754953216/h0355CC0D/

nanbo554

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Game looks dead over there and they prob have their retired shops out auto botting for hours on end.

You do realize that there is a new botting system in this game too right? DERP!

In fact, my first PvP kill in Harshlands are 2 botters in the level 40 mob area

One of my favorite was I stole the bots kills, making him autopath into a rock where he was stuck, and just back attacking the entire time. To glitched to use pots, and DOWNED.

Any ways...Yeah, CN actually has way more players, especially now that PWI is losing by the truck loads in EU (Moria). I just posted a thread there in a certain langauge. 3 dyas later no response and only 3K total posts since OB. derp a derpity doooo

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The current state of Archosaur (as of this second):

http://share.pho.to/4gZ2e

empty as ** >.> forget the shops where are pple lol

nanbo554 wrote: »

YEs I did compare two different countries...but the same product, hence the same rationality you will use in comparing Japan etc..
I know the USA has no hands on development tools, but they sure do have our tickets and forums to send over. And if people can not use google translate then they are lying and I have poo in a box to sell you

mmm..... i dont think you quite understand that being connected with the same company name does not grant you the same amount of attention, quality, and priority as the mother company >.> moreso in this case because this is china we are talking about if youve kept up to date on the society there.

PWE staffs whole job there isnt to play messenger to china, its to uphold its own as a semi-independant in USA, and it has other jobs to do within its own. Interacting with the mothership, assuming pwe is like any other crosscountry transacting company, should only happen once in a while in a bundle aside from small emails and such. There is no reliability that pwe will get the response they want in the timeframe that they want, much less a result, as china themselves are not lined up to solve pwe's problems specifically. And the last thing you want to do is peck at them insistently that it makes 2 companies irritated and awkward.

When it comes to such decisions and discussions about larger scale gears and items, i would think its normal for a company to take 6-12 months to come up with a final decision, provided that it doesnt get killed like many other 100s of ideas before it comes to the meeting table. And i dont think there are many player base fans that will take the time to precompile a professional project evaluation model for them all gift wrapped to take to their superiors.

Fabuleux - Lost City

nanbo554 wrote: »

Went over to the CH PW site forums. No real general or discussion threads. Replaced by ofricial: " post your thoughts and ideas. Our new stance is only to update and design the fame around player feed back *insert paragraphs or how plyers mold the game regarding class and content balance. Not one but 2 (first) threads.

Problem PWI??

Their site even boast what an international sufcess the game is and has little stock market ticker. Floating in the forums lol.

"oh but its hard managing servers".
Their servers are divided by region andbInternet company. So north region company x = Tear server, which could be shared by south region depending on what net provider is used. Any ways. Thought id share after reading posts here of "No one listens to us, why populations flux" sake bugs sinfe 10 years ago. No wonder ".etc etc...


Its ok though . I read their posts and they chat about *** tolerence, Justin Bieber and other odd subjects... Dat 3 million users ticker though... I bet its catshop lag hell over thereb:chucklex

China has a feedback thread? Oh golly gosh!......so do we. We've had many. Boasting about international success? You realise they include themselves, us, Japan, Malaysia, Russia, Vietnam and Korea in that right? China 's internet regulations and rules are MUCH MUCH MUCH different from the Internet regulations in the US. You have to keep that in mind.

Bugs are compiled, replicated and sent to the development team in China. That Chinese team decides whether it's a big enough whoop to warrant an immediate fix. Most cases, it's not. That's why we have to wait so long, because THEY don't think it's worth fixing. I mean, why should they really care about ALL the bugs? It's not like their player base is playing this version.

China is the reason the development and bug fixes on this game are either never done, or take forever. China can also shoot suggestions and ideas for this version only, down.

nanbo554 wrote: »

You do realize that there is a new botting system in this game too right? DERP!

In fact, my first PvP kill in Harshlands are 2 botters in the level 40 mob area

One of my favorite was I stole the bots kills, making him autopath into a rock where he was stuck, and just back attacking the entire time. To glitched to use pots, and DOWNED.

Any ways...Yeah, CN actually has way more players, especially now that PWI is losing by the truck loads in EU (Moria). I just posted a thread there in a certain langauge. 3 dyas later no response and only 3K total posts since OB. derp a derpity doooo

Congratulations, you killed an afk toon, glitched in rocks. Here's a medal. Now go kill someone that can actually fight you back.

China has ALWAYS had a major bot problem. LONG before the auto cultivation tool. Veno bot army was horrendous. The EU servers were never huge, hence why they were merged. The European team has been.....lacking lately. US GMs have tried keeping in contact with them over issues, but unfortunately not much luck. Yep, that's right. EU has it's own GMs. US GMs don't really pay attention to EU, that's not their jurisdiction.

Crixxix - Raging Tide

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

When it comes to such decisions and discussions about larger scale gears and items, i would think its normal for a company to take 6-12 months to come up with a final decision, provided that it doesnt get killed like many other 100s of ideas before it comes to the meeting table. And i dont think there are many player base fans that will take the time to precompile a professional project evaluation model for them all gift wrapped to take to their superiors.

What's to say that players such as ourselves couldn't do just that? If we care about the game enough, then yes, we definitely should do something like this.

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

Crixxix - Raging Tide wrote: »

What's to say that players such as ourselves couldn't do just that? If we care about the game enough, then yes, we definitely should do something like this.

Depends. Do you think we'll be able to garner the same kind of support and organization for such a project? One akin to or greater than that which led to the eventual success of the INI Editing petition? I'd find it hard to believe that we could do it as things are now, thus, I doubt that it will turn out to be successful.

Additionally, no matter what we discuss or propose, there is also no guarantee that it will even be taken into consideration (remember the discussion that was ofthis thread and similar ones)?

PeachyKisses - Archosaur

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The current state of Archosaur (as of this second):

http://share.pho.to/4gZ2e

This is a perfect example of why we are so looked down at..

There's a lot of good players over there, not so many shops, and in general they are much more actively involved in PW

@freygin: China's r9 3rd is earned in NW, and costs about 350mil to make (AFTER getting the materials)

Holy **** it looks so empty. Are they out doing stuff or just not logged in f:stare

Burnout - Harshlands

PeachyKisses - Archosaur wrote: »

Holy **** it looks so empty. Are they out doing stuff or just not logged in f:stare

It's a different culture. Most probably game on rented computers or PC cafes so don't have the ability to just get a laptop and leave it on all night for catshops. I would bet they're hardcore farmers as well.

What's there to farm, you say? They don't buy R9 over there, they actually farm the rep legit, everything in US is bought so there's not much to farm here.