Best of Each Class 2014 Harshlands
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I also agree. He's pretty deadly when he needs to be.
Granted I'm not the best to ask about pvp skill, I'm still learning a few things. But I'd also like to point out Subterranean for Seekers.
He really knows what he's doing."What man would go into the dark without a light?"
"That's a silly question. What man would go into the dark?"0 -
Kevyy - Harshlands wrote: »I'm on the list twice because its true also rath has alot of potential tbh.
And then Longknife accuses me of having a giant ego.
Potential =/= room for improvement.0 -
Sint - Harshlands wrote: »And then Longknife accuses me of having a giant ego.
Potential =/= room for improvement.
I was very open minded when choosing these ppl. I based my decisions off of gameplay footage and what I've seen in balanced teams.0 -
Archer: too many
Assassin: synterox, finalsnake, bitewarrior
Barbarian: hard to call who's active or not (i'dd say Bain, Vikkram, Wolfo but inactive), perdition maybe atm
Blademaster: Opsy, Egamoto, hunterbojan
Cleric: Healer - HP Charm, Violet Dance (non available on this server), definetly not eo to whom every atk is a moment of panic, maybe yuyi (only on gang bang we got numbers pk+heal) and wampirewoman (on 1v1+heal)
Mystic: Chevalier (truthfully by lack of players and non existent competition gear/skilwise)
Psyphic: Eclipse, (and Longknife before R9 now is just another average), still no one at least close to what was urdian (inactive)
Seeker: 117 ftw for how was it? "harrasment tactics", but on a serious note too many OPed geared, so maybe chaosking (sadly the rest are 1 combo macro and panic! or tanky but not DD, at least this one tanks the most and seems to hit the most)
Wizard: not boomz (though too many that consider themselves pro compare themselves with him, and posting video, just to prove they've beaten one of the worse, the horror!), here i really have no clue, the good ones sadly are undergeared, the geared ones don't shine, the good and geared are inactive
Venomancer: kakera, ranknine (though semi inactive on hl)0 -
definetly not eo to whom every atk is a moment of panic
no one at least close to what was urdian (inactive)
Seeker: 117 ftw for how was it? "harrasment tactics", but on a serious note too many OPed geared, so maybe chaosking (sadly the rest are 1 combo macro and panic! or tanky but not DD, at least this one tanks the most and seems to hit the most)
Venomancer: kakera, ranknine (though semi inactive on hl)
Have you seen eo's gameplay vids? Are you a moron? I cannot see panic there, even when i try very hard to.
urdian... epic faceroll was epic. I remember him thinking he could solo (it was either an Omerta or an AL push) lane B. Didn't work out for him at all.
So basically you're saying chaoking is the best seeker because he's tanky and hits hard? I'm not even going to pretend that's not a pathetic argument.
Kakera... has never impressed me with her skill as a venomancer. Don't think she ever will. Betty is ok. He gives me Nyxia nostalgia in tw though.0 -
Sint - Harshlands wrote: »Have you seen eo's gameplay vids? Are you a moron? I cannot see panic there, even when i try very hard to.
idk. I think it's a fair criticism. I do go between panicking too much and not at all and it does get me killed more than I should be sometimes.
Also, lbr. A lot of the admiration for me comes from the period of time where I was literally the only support cleric that PVP'd on a regular basis (like, you'd have Joujou and xCascadax out sometimes, but that was only on the rare as **** times that Crimson actually went out pvping then) and all I did was just sit back healing Shootn and Apologies while they killed people and try to make myself as much of a nuisance as possible to kill even when I only had like 6-8k HP. And I made TW videos. About it. Like, I've had several clerics come to me over the years asking for advice and such because they've seen my vids.
Do I think I'm a good support cleric? Yes. Do I think I'm the absolute best one on the server? No.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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eo is just a trash valalalala cleric with tt90 gear passUnban me.0
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I you too, Neo.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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This is my list based mostly on pvp skills:
Archer:chaosbeibei,Curses and Barbapapa good also
Assassin:SoulFeast,2nd can be Synterox
Barbarian:Doom Panda and PERDITION for cata barbs and ShibbyKitty for pvp
Blademaster:Opsy and me (Opsy join Dark xD )
Cleric:Kevyy and Yuyi
Mystic:Chevalier
Psyphic:Longknife by skill and Eclipse by gear only
Seeker:Csykotik
Wizard:Nurfed return lol
Venomancer: few good idk who to pick
And big lol on Synterox list,seems like he just copy/past his members to fill the list lol0 -
Hunterbojan - Harshlands wrote: »Blademaster:Opsy and me (Opsy join Dark xD )
Neeeeeeevvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrrrr over my dead body and i think others would agree also.
f:flower Go away hunter .0 -
Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »idk. I think it's a fair criticism. I do go between panicking too much and not at all and it does get me killed more than I should be sometimes.
Also, lbr. A lot of the admiration for me comes from the period of time where I was literally the only support cleric that PVP'd on a regular basis (like, you'd have Joujou and xCascadax out sometimes, but that was only on the rare as **** times that Crimson actually went out pvping then) and all I did was just sit back healing Shootn and Apologies while they killed people and try to make myself as much of a nuisance as possible to kill even when I only had like 6-8k HP. And I made TW videos. About it. Like, I've had several clerics come to me over the years asking for advice and such because they've seen my vids.
Do I think I'm a good support cleric? Yes. Do I think I'm the absolute best one on the server? No.
Though i'm somewhat uncomfortable arguing this point against you, the only other clerics mentioned in this thread are either Kevvy, in whose opinion panicking is obviously not a bad thing, as he nominated the single most panicky archer on the server as the best, and Yuji, whom i only know as a metal mage.
I don't, personally, think you panic every time you are attacked, and from your own statement, you do not either, though i will gladly admit a bit of nuance may have been required in my reply. I'm still a fanboy, though, so i'm going to compliment you on your choice of music.
Everyone in Dark obviously picks sucky music because i hate everyone in Dark. Our Lord and Saviour Longknife has said so!
For honesty though, i'm not particularly experienced at playing a cleric, so i wouldn't be able to analyse
cleric gameplay to any impressive depth.
Also, and perhaps more annoyingly, there is a general lack of unedited footage, so that you're always quite certain you're looking at a highlight reel, which does not afford any real clues to anyone's skill.
Edit: I looked over your tw vids again, i think i see what you mean when you say you do panic, though in most cases i don't think it's terribly consequential.
Edit2: In my opinion, claiming of oneself that one is the best is more indicative of narcissism than skill.0 -
Wampirewoman - Harshlands wrote: »Neeeeeeevvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrrrr over my dead body and i think others would agree also.
f:flower Go away hunter .
We spoke already,hes about to leave soon
Forgot to put u on list Penotwoman,since i saw u dd on me in TW ahahahah )0 -
b:surrender well qq u were next to me purged and dged and no one hit u .... b:chuckle and got few sec free....why not? i hate stuns
Also Opsy won't leave .... u have to convince nena , me and a few more since we are as a group .
Good luck tho.0 -
Hunterbojan - Harshlands wrote: »We spoke already,hes about to leave soon
Forgot to put u on list Penotwoman,since i saw u dd on me in TW ahahahah )
1) Dark pretending it has a list of people that will leave Infamous and be allowed to join, as if they're not taking whatever applies. Brings to mind Dark folks whining about peoples' huge egos, but it's too distant, i can't really recall.
2) hunterboyan saying something nobody cares about.
3) You lost that TW regardless, i think? Not sure, just going with the safe bet here.0 -
I lol'd0
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Sint - Harshlands wrote: »1) Dark pretending it has a list of people that will leave Infamous and be allowed to join, as if they're not taking whatever applies. Brings to mind Dark folks whining about peoples' huge egos, but it's too distant, i can't really recall.
2) hunterboyan saying something nobody cares about.
3) You lost that TW regardless, i think? Not sure, just going with the safe bet here.
Why are you do fascinated by dark? It's like your obsessed with them, chill bro.0 -
Sint - Harshlands wrote: »Though i'm somewhat uncomfortable arguing this point against you, the only other clerics mentioned in this thread are either Kevvy, in whose opinion panicking is obviously not a bad thing, as he nominated the single most panicky archer on the server as the best, and Yuji, whom i only know as a metal mage.
I don't, personally, think you panic every time you are attacked, and from your own statement, you do not either, though i will gladly admit a bit of nuance may have been required in my reply. I'm still a fanboy, though, so i'm going to compliment you on your choice of music.
Everyone in Dark obviously picks sucky music because i hate everyone in Dark. Our Lord and Saviour Longknife has said so!
For honesty though, i'm not particularly experienced at playing a cleric, so i wouldn't be able to analyse
cleric gameplay to any impressive depth.
Also, and perhaps more annoyingly, there is a general lack of unedited footage, so that you're always quite certain you're looking at a highlight reel, which does not afford any real clues to anyone's skill.
Edit: I looked over your tw vids again, i think i see what you mean when you say you do panic, though in most cases i don't think it's terribly consequential.
Edit2: In my opinion, claiming of oneself that one is the best is more indicative of narcissism than skill.
I think clerics are fairly simple and easy to play. What's hard about them is awareness. In that sense, I think Yuyi probably has the best awareness, in the sense that when an archer purges you, you're usually rebuffed within 3 seconds, and he will heal people who *actually* needs healing while DD'ing when it's efficient (mainly talking about world pk, in TW clerics simply don't DD). Eoria also has excellent awareness in terms of support, but is less useful in terms of versatility.
Too many clerics just spam ironheart on 1 target regardless of whether it even needs healing, never assists with CC's, and when attacked their only strategy is to spam IH on themselves with a hand over the AD button. Wampirewoman is a good example of this - I kill her often in mass PvP simply due to the fact that she doesn't know when I spark, when I'm using AS, or even who is attacking her, and is probably a reason why most people don't mention her in best of lists.
Admittedly there are also some clerics in Dark who are merely "decent" like Wampirewoman, but are also undergeared and inexperienced so it's more understandable.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Crazybladema - Harshlands wrote: »Why are you do fascinated by dark? It's like your obsessed with them, chill bro.
I dunno but...
Let me be clear, not saying I'd report him because I have no grounds or means with which to do so, but something I've tried explaining to people, both ones who felt harassed and those who seem to tell -ANY- PKer that they're gonna ticket you: if you're being harassed, you'll know it. It's a point where it's not about "grrrr he killed me and bruised my ego" or "grrrr he called me a mean name and now I'm mad," but rather it becomes "this dude seems downright obsessive and honestly it's just downright creepy and annoying and I wish he'd go away now." It's with this exact attitude and description that I've successfully predicted two harassment reports that ended up happening because what started as a grudge match ended up being entirely too weird and creepy for one side, and it's an understanding of this that leads to my liberal PK habits with no real worry or regard for any threats I receive: I KNOW I simply lack the attitude and dedication to qualify as "harassment" for anyone. Hell, I'd be willing to argue anyone who's an RPKer is incapable of true harassment.
I can speak for Dark when I say Sint is basically this for us. Mind you he hasn't broken any rules and I'm not looking to get anyone banned; the above example was merely to describe that no, this is not a case of "grrrr he trolls us hard and makes us angry!1" or the typical grudge matches Harshlands is used to; no, he's become his own specialty case. Our forums now have a thread about him, how weird and obsessive he is and how we wish he'd just like, chill the **** out and stop creeping us out. Swear to god at this point you could just world chat, post, or mention Dark and this dude will show up talking about how he wants to scalp Dark's firstborn or some ****. Get a life, seriously.I AGOREY0 -
Crazybladema - Harshlands wrote: »Why are you do fascinated by dark? It's like your obsessed with them, chill bro.
lololol
If Dark were a person, what would he or she look like b:sin0 -
Boomz - Harshlands wrote: »you can say what you want on the forums and hide behind Dark's skirt, but facts are facts that 90% of your faction who your claiming essentially is the best chance even stand their ground against me in a 1v1 scenario. In fact i found you in primal world today and 1 shot you to hell and back. I will give you that there are a few people that can definitely kill me such as chaos but thats given cause he csed a house (or cheated, who knows). Put me up against a wizard of my equal gear level and i will walk circles around them, and thats that. If anyone does not belong here, it is you, the person who can't beat anything.
edit: I checked back and yes you nominated for every class (expect one) someone who is in dark, so thats very contradictory you trollin that syntheros would do the same.
Boomz... Im rofl stomping right now ive seen you 1v1 3 people in dark.
Longknife Vs Boomz (Fought like 7-8 times that day ? Long won the majoirty, then you had a single 1v1 again where Long won)
Yuyi Vs Boomz (2-0 for yuyi, 1st fight, you lose cause you force logged due to the fact your 3 spark ig combo failed miserably so you "dced" lololol, 2nd time you just got flat out analed)
Chevalier Vs Boomz ( 1 Fight 4 minutes, boomz hits the dirt, Need i say more? Thats 3 people who have relatively the same gear value as you and you lost)
GG My friend, now continue to rant how you can kill me. Cause it seems im the only one in dark you can beat and thats cause of an astronomical gear gap0 -
Kevyy - Harshlands wrote: »First unbiased opinion. Judging by pure game play, individual skill and teamwork.
Archer: Rathofdemise
Assassin: n/a
Barbarian: ShibiKitty & Fenris
Blademaster: Opsy, Alastar and Hunterbojan
Cleric: Yuyi & Kevyy
Mystic: Chevailair
Psyphic: Longknife
Seeker: n/a
Wizard: kingy
Venomancer: Sparklecat & Nina
Ah yeah i forgot about rath, Yeah ill toss him a vote too, but *** sparkle /Ban Kevvy for voting 4 sprkle QQ0 -
JackieK - Harshlands wrote: »Boomz... Im rofl stomping right now ive seen you 1v1 3 people in dark.
Longknife Vs Boomz (Fought like 7-8 times that day ? Long won the majoirty, then you had a single 1v1 again where Long won)
Yuyi Vs Boomz (2-0 for yuyi, 1st fight, you lose cause you force logged due to the fact your 3 spark ig combo failed miserably so you "dced" lololol, 2nd time you just got flat out analed)
Chevalier Vs Boomz ( 1 Fight 4 minutes, boomz hits the dirt, Need i say more? Thats 3 people who have relatively the same gear value as you and you lost)
GG My friend, now continue to rant how you can kill me. Cause it seems im the only one in dark you can beat and thats cause of an astronomical gear gap
He also 1 vs 1ed flame and lost and then posted a QQ thread on how OPed barbs purge is.Mains:
Doom_Panda- 102/101/102 R9 3rd cast Demon Barb 40k HP.
Dawnx - 100/85 Demon Cleric.
PsychicTuna- 101/100 Sage Psychic.
DawnMyst- 96 Demon Mystic.
PANDAS FTW. AND I b:heart ARMA! b:avoid0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »"grrrr he trolls us hard and makes us angry!.
I Resent you for actually saying Sint can troll, Sints trolling is equivalent to the 10 year olds who sit On Call of Duty talkin **** with them squeeky *** voices0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »I can speak for Dark when I say Sint is basically this for us. Mind you he hasn't broken any rules and I'm not looking to get anyone banned; the above example was merely to describe that no, this is not a case of "grrrr he trolls us hard and makes us angry!1" or the typical grudge matches Harshlands is used to; no, he's become his own specialty case. Our forums now have a thread about him, how weird and obsessive he is and how we wish he'd just like, chill the **** out and stop creeping us out. Swear to god at this point you could just world chat, post, or mention Dark and this dude will show up talking about how he wants to scalp Dark's firstborn or some ****. Get a life, seriously.
wut? For the last 6 months i've played NW and TW. I've been back to playing for about a week, in which i've done EXACTLY what i've always done, this time with a massive dmg disadvantage. You mean to tell me that 1 week of an undergeared/underlvled archer pking Dark people he runs into on quests has made ALL of Dark gather on its forums to cry about how awful i am? Grow the **** up. I don't mind Dark any more than i mind anyone else on any server. I certainly don't go out of my way to talk to them on wc. The only person i go out of my way to annoy sometimes is SyntherosX and Bankai, and only because Kylin keeps a tally on how many keyboards we make him smash. It's fascinating to know that the mighty Dark, such a great bastion of PWI know-how and skill, which gets Longknife's vaunted wit for a bonus, is crying harder than BankaiGOD.
ggwp.JackieK - Harshlands wrote: »I Resent you for actually saying Sint can troll, Sints trolling is equivalent to the 10 year olds who sit On Call of Duty talkin **** with them squeeky *** voices
Let's all pretend you're not a tryhard.0 -
Sint - Harshlands wrote: »wut? For the last 6 months i've played NW and TW. I've been back to playing for about a week, in which i've done EXACTLY what i've always done, this time with a massive dmg disadvantage. You mean to tell me that 1 week of an undergeared/underlvled archer pking Dark people he runs into on quests
Sint I know you like to troll but lets at least TRY to be somewhat realistic here, the past week Dark chat has been spammed nonstop with different variants of "lol Sint just died again".
Seriously, it's worse than Santa spam. I'm about to /gquit because of it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »I think clerics are fairly simple and easy to play. What's hard about them is awareness. -snip-
Pretty much have to agree with this. Cleric is really not that hard. You can literally do your job as a support cleric decently enough by simply staring at the squad window the entire time and paying attention to who needs rebuffs/purifies/heals/res and just keeping Plume Shell up on cooldown. Though I guess you do need a lot of knowledge about status icons and what certain skills and combos look like visually (i.e. spark combo, mystic AS combo and Lucky Break+Gale Force combo, basic seeker sac slash combo, BV metal combo, cleric's own combo, etc.), but that generally applies to everyone who's serious about pvp. Meanwhile on the DD side of things, cleric metal mage combo is extremely easy to pull off generally (mostly because the general player population does not know how to deal with it and most do not have a genie set up to counter it).
There's also the awareness of who/what is hitting you and being able to communicate that and possibly get a target on them if they're a huge threat. Then you add in kiting and the timing and chaining of your survival skills and CC skills as well. But I guess that also falls under applying to everyone, tbh.
Your post also makes me want to write a mini-essay right here about decision making in terms of who to concentrate on healing and whatnot first in different situations, but I won't for right now.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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You mean to tell me that 1 week of an undergeared/underlvled archer pking Dark people he runs into on quests
Can't tell if Sint is "that kid" that tries epicly hard at "trolling" when everyone EXCEPT him is well aware his trolling isn't working....
Or if actually legitimately this delusional.
I mean you were literally crying about how I outgear you like two weeks ago and running away like a ninny. Later I checked your gear and realize you -actually- outgear me; I know you'll cry your poor worthless +12 bow isn't recasted, but anyone with a basic knowledge of this game could tell you a +12 bow can kill a friggin' +8 Psy. Inb4 "I wuz onlee lebel 91" as if that makes you absolutely helpless.
Also for any onlookers, here's a trolling tip: Trolling doesn't actually work if you're just bull****ing and saying literally anything that sounds remotely provocational, it actually has to have some merit and sound as though it was truly something you believe (or IS something you believe). Case and point, we're all sitting here scratching our heads because Sint's post doesn't match his in-game actions.I Resent you for actually saying Sint can troll, Sints trolling is equivalent to the 10 year olds who sit On Call of Duty talkin **** with them squeeky *** voices
That was never the implication. The implication was merely that that's how I'd imagine Sint perceives us to be reacting.Psyphic:
Best typo (if you can even call it that wtf Kev the P is nowhere near the C) ever cause accustically it sounds like you just called me a "Psyf***" in German.Archer: Rathofdemise
Not to rain on his parade but Rath doesn't know how2Psychic worth a damn. I think he'd admit to it, too. Just something to consider when nominating best of each class; dunno if you can call them the best if there's certain classes they struggle with more than they should.I AGOREY0 -
Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »Sint I know you like to troll but lets at least TRY to be somewhat realistic here, the past week Dark chat has been spammed nonstop with different variants of "lol Sint just died again".
Seriously, it's worse than Santa spam. I'm about to /gquit because of it.
I didn't say i was winning every fight, please stop pulling things out of your **** in order to make a fool out of yourself. I'm embarassed in your place.Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Can't tell if Sint is "that kid" that tries epicly hard at "trolling" when everyone EXCEPT him is well aware his trolling isn't working....
I mean you were literally crying about how I outgear you like two weeks ago and running away like a ninny. Later I checked your gear and realize you -actually- outgear me; I know you'll cry your poor worthless +12 bow isn't recasted, but anyone with a basic knowledge of this game could tell you a +12 bow can kill a friggin' +8 Psy. Inb4 "I wuz onlee lebel 91" as if that makes you absolutely helpless.
I can actually tell you're "that kid" that tries epicly hard at imagining the world revolves around you and, occasionally, your faction. Also, for those of you who haven't been lurking very long, when you write another book, and when you tell me Dark has a thread on its forums to tell each other about me, i just assume you're mad. If you're mad, i win.
You do realize i've never used "my bow has not been recast" as an argument unless someone claims it has been, right? This has come up plenty. For a dmg comparison as recent as this morning, i hit Dstroya for 4k, crit, he hits me for 11k + crit. I don't know about you, but if i deal 1/3 of the dmg i take against my own class, in comparable gear, and i didn't stat 300 vit (i checked) i'm going to have to assume the problem lies in my lvl/gear. If you're saying rath is a better archer than i am, and you're also saying rath has trouble killing you, and i can tell you that rath's dmg/surv is about 3x mine, then i think i can make a point that you would have a ridiculous advantage. I kind of hope you can see my point here, but i'm assuming you're just going to go off on a tangent about how stupid i am for an unrelated reason.
inb4 flying away from a psychic.0 -
I dunno why people is kissing rath butt recently, but he's far to be the best.0
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