Heaven Ravager + Helm vs Wings of Ascension + Crown of Madness

TheDan - Sanctuary

Okay so I just got my Emperor Tome and R999 Ring, so I'm looking to work on Cape / Necklace next. I've had multiple debates with multiple people on my server, and I see more and more people going for the Wings of Ascension + Crown of Madness combo on Heavy Armors on my server.

Just wondering what other servers think, or if this is a norm? I don't see much value in the 9 attack level from set bonus, but wanted to see some other views on this. I'm leaning more towards the Heaven Ravager set because of the added defense, 3% m def reduction, 4 defense level difference.

Heaven Ravager Helm

Heaven Ravager Cape

Crown of Madness

Wings of Ascension

Luffz - Raging Tide

Well tbh id go for the nw helms Because theyre way cheaper than Crown and the 9 atk lv bonus doesnt really make it worth the money!f:money And if you compare the 2 set together even if crown and wiings have better stats its not like theyre gonna make you hit take 1k less dmg.Itsmore like 100-200!

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

wow. Can already afford that on official server?

WannaBM - Archosaur

Id go for neither because id be happy to ever get R9.3.

But i like theorizing. Skip to the collored part if you like:

Heaven R:
Strength +10
Atk. Level +3
Def. Level +8
Reduce Magic damage taken +3%
Phys. Res.: +400
Mag. Res.: +400
Speed +0.3 meters/second
Vitality +15
4700HP @+12

Crown+wings:
Phys. Res.: +200
Mag. Res.: +200
Critical Hit Rate +1%
Atk. Level +11
Def. Level +4
Phys. Res.: +500
Mag. Res.: +400
Vitality +10
Speed +0.3 meters/second
Reduce Physical damage taken +4%
HP 4537
mana 600

Now i remove what they have in common:
Heaven R:
Strength +10
Def. Level 4
Reduce Magic damage taken +3%
Vitality 5
163HP

Crown+wings:
Critical Hit Rate +1%
Atk. Level 8
Phys. Res.: +300
Mag. Res.: +200
Reduce Physical damage taken +4%
mana 600

And now try giving everything % offense or defence values, then i will again remove what they have in common for the totals.
Lets asume you have: 30k HP, 30kPdef, 12kMdef, 100Attlvl, 100deflvl, 5x attack multiplier from str,33%crit and 15% or so reduce magic/physical damage total.

Heaven R:
Strength +10 ==> 1,3% offence
Def. Level 4 ==> 2% defence
Reduce Magic damage taken +3% ==> 2,5% magic defence
Vitality 5 ==> 0,5% defence
163HP ==>0.5% defence

Total:
3.5% magic def



Crown+wings:
Critical Hit Rate +1% ==>0.7% offence
Atk. Level 8 ===> 4% offence
Phys. Res.: +300 ==> 2% phys defence*
Mag. Res.: +200 ==> 2% magic defence*
Reduce Physical damage taken +4% ==> 3,5% phys defence
mana 600

Total:
3.4% offence
2,5% phys def
mana 600

If you dont have JOSD but vit stones, the defence levels gain more significance for heaven.R. resulting in about 0.7% more defence against both phys and magic.
It is best to check my work before investing billions

*I tested on my barb that at 25-30k def range about 150 def reduces the damage you take by 1% At the 13k range, about 100 def reduces the damage you take by 1%

TheDan - Sanctuary

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

wow. Can already afford that on official server?

CoM doesn't exist on our server yet, but everything else is reasonable.

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Id go for neither because id be happy to ever get R9.3.

But i like theorizing. Skip to the collored part if you like:

Heaven R:
Strength +10
Atk. Level +3
Def. Level +8
Reduce Magic damage taken +3%
Phys. Res.: +400
Mag. Res.: +400
Speed +0.3 meters/second
Vitality +15
4700HP @+12

Crown+wings:
Phys. Res.: +200
Mag. Res.: +200
Critical Hit Rate +1%
Atk. Level +11
Def. Level +4
Phys. Res.: +500
Mag. Res.: +400
Vitality +10
Speed +0.3 meters/second
Reduce Physical damage taken +4%
HP 4537
mana 600

Now i remove what they have in common:
Heaven R:
Strength +10
Def. Level 4
Reduce Magic damage taken +3%
Vitality 5
163HP

Crown+wings:
Critical Hit Rate +1%
Atk. Level 8
Phys. Res.: +300
Mag. Res.: +200
Reduce Physical damage taken +4%
mana 600

And now try giving everything % offense or defence values, then i will again remove what they have in common for the totals.
Lets asume you have: 30k HP, 30kPdef, 12kMdef, 100Attlvl, 100deflvl, 5x attack multiplier from str,33%crit and 15% or so reduce magic/physical damage total.

Heaven R:
Strength +10 ==> 1,3% offence
Def. Level 4 ==> 2% defence
Reduce Magic damage taken +3% ==> 2,5% magic defence
Vitality 5 ==> 0,5% defence
163HP ==>0.5% defence

Total:
1.0% phys def



Crown+wings:
Critical Hit Rate +1% ==>0.7% offence
Atk. Level 8 ===> 4% offence
Phys. Res.: +300 ==> 2% phys defence*
Mag. Res.: +200 ==> 2% magic defence*
Reduce Physical damage taken +4% ==> 3,5% magic defence you mean phys?
mana 600

Total:
3.4% offence
mana 600

If you dont have JOSD but vit stones, the defence levels gain more significance for heaven.R. resulting in about 0.7% more defence against both phys and magic.
It is best to check my work before investing billions

*I tested on my barb that at 25-30k def range about 150 def reduces the damage you take by 1% At the 13k range, about 100 def reduces the damage you take by 1%

Where are you getting the 1% phys def from? The HR set gives the 3% m def, whereas the other set is giving 4% phys def

ablabahabla

Thx to the reawakening stuff the crown of madness choice is the better one, but tbh it seems like almost ungetable unless u buy 1million packs and open them all.

But compareing them i wouldnt say the more effort for CoM is worth it that much unless u got full nw+12 gears and josd in your armor already.

WannaBM - Archosaur

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

CoM doesn't exist on our server yet, but everything else is reasonable.



Where are you getting the 1% phys def from? The HR set gives the 3% m def, whereas the other set is giving 4% phys def

TY you are correct, i edited it !

_Mg_Zr - Harshlands

I was asking in my fac today about this and after some disucssion i was told the if you get the crown from a pack it auto binds and cant be traded, if this is the case then i know i will never have it.
As for people having it i have seen 3 on harshlands one on a seeker one on a wiz and one on a archer, they also have +12 r9rr with jades and +12 nw ornies and im pretty sure one or 2 of them have the robe as well, there might be more though im not sure

Thanks for posting this thread its helped me confirm which route to go