Ways to go around the awakening system

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Annabonana - Morai wrote: »

also several people stay on 100 because they don't want to do the leveling again. they done it already. so if the ones who want extra stats to get back to 100 without having to go trough 1 year of leveling again to do so wouldn't that be a good thing?.

such hate, much selfish, very pwi community

>Not adding "wow" at start or end or at least somewhere in between

Ya blew it.

Selak - Dreamweaver

__Sami__ - Archosaur wrote: »

I actually got example to look at whats selfish and whats not. Kids are playing with sticks like they were swords, pretty normal stuff. Another kid comes and complains how they are sticks and shouldnt be used as swords. Other kids reply he can think the stick whatever he wants but they arent hurting anyone playing they are swords. The kid wanting to keep sticks as sticks throws temper tantrum how he wants them to be sticks and demands other kids to play with him.

Yes this may be true in the case you describe,

but if the kids have thousands of plastic/wooden swords around them and they choose to pick up one of the only sticks around, that a stick player wants to use in an appropriate way, then that is even more selfish and immature.

Annabonana - Morai

Selak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes this may be true in the case you describe,

but if the kids have thousands of plastic/wooden swords around them and they choose to pick up one of the only sticks around, that a stick player wants to use in an appropriate way, then that is even more selfish and immature.

what? this makes no sence in the pwi area.

if this was a comparishment to pwi then there are INFINITE amount of sticks around for stick players to use.


If you are refeering to the game that it's an mmorpg were you should level clearly the use of hypers and that you can level so fast states that pwi is not 100% about that, and even if it was it doesn't help your stick comparishment, if the stick is pwi than the stick i pick up to play with is in infinate numbers and anyone can pick it up just as i, really not a single thing of what you are trying to point out makes any sence what so ever.


you know what? i'm going to be nice and GIVE YOU the only actually relevant and valid answer to why fcc is a bad thing. thank me later.

You can argue that as someone who wants to use the sticks in the apropriote way, when everyone is doing something else than that, you feel alone and have no friends to do the stick thingy with.

However seeing as many of you want to level up again so badly this does NOT seem to apply. you have plenty of friends to play with.

Wickedbrew - Raging Tide

Since I have a couple of level 100+ characters, I figure I will leave one as is and use the awaken system on the weaker 100+ to try it out. It will take a few months to get back to level 100 which is perfectly fine by me since I find the 100+ instances mind numbingly repetitive.

I am hoping that PWE will reward those that don't power level with fun new content with this patch though I'm not holding my breath and for those that think the +76 stat points are going to help them in PvP, remember, those that have been steamrolling you will also be getting the +76 so its back to the same place you were.

I do think this new system will be overkill for any PvE instance we already have, but that's the nature of PWE to make characters feel like pros against a squad of ladybugs unless they really add some good challenging content (for those not r9+ which is already like going after an army that has plastic swords to their nuclear bomb)

XxWilxX - Heavens Tear

wickedbrew - Raging Tide wrote: »

since I Have A Couple Of Level 100+ Characters, I Figure I Will Leave One As Is And Use The Awaken System On The Weaker 100+ To Try It Out. It Will Take A Few Months To Get Back To Level 100 Which Is Perfectly Fine By Me Since I Find The 100+ Instances Mind Numbingly Repetitive.

I Am Hoping That Pwe Will Reward Those That Don't Power Level With Fun New Content With This Patch Though I'm Not Holding My Breath And For Those That Think The +76 Stat Points Are Going To Help Them In Pvp, Remember, Those That Have Been Steamrolling You Will Also Be Getting The +76 So Its Back To The Same Place You Were.

I Do Think This New System Will Be Overkill For Any Pve Instance We Already Have, But That's The Nature Of Pwe To Make Characters Feel Like Pros Against A Squad Of Ladybugs Unless They Really Add Some Good Challenging Content (for Those Not R9+ Which Is Already Like Going After An Army That Has Plastic Swords To Their Nuclear Bomb)

+11111111111111111111

Eruvanda - Dreamweaver

Wickedbrew - Raging Tide wrote: »

remember, those that have been steamrolling you will also be getting the +76 so its back to the same place you were.

This... b:chuckle

Joshuason - Raging Tide

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Also, I need to learn how to multi-quote or drink more coffee in the morning

Copy and paste, copy and paste again, and open another window on the same page, that's how I do it! Also, i'm thinking this might be something to get into, what do I have to lose, doing the same thing over and over(which is pretty much what I'm doing now)? And just an aside, I wish i could customize my avatar more, my toon has blond hair, not brown! b:chuckle Just kidding! Oh yeah, this thread is about getting around levelling over again, so i'll be jumping over to the other thread(100+ pages, omg). see ya ingame b:victory

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Hit Multi-off (to toggle it to Multi-on) on each post you want to quote before hitting the Quote button if you want to easy-mode multi-quote.

__Sami__ - Archosaur

Selak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes this may be true in the case you describe,

but if the kids have thousands of plastic/wooden swords around them and they choose to pick up one of the only sticks around, that a stick player wants to use in an appropriate way, then that is even more selfish and immature.

Dont be stupid. Amounts of sticks is obviously infinite, more people playing this game wont affect the amount of new players in negative manner. Well if we exclude the extreme of too much load for servers, which isnt even remotely realistic for PWI. Just because Players Mike and Molly choose to play this game as they wish, they in no way remove you the option to play it was you want. Sure, they arent playing the game with you as you would like to but you can just find other people who want to play the game like you do.

Joshuason - Raging Tide

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Every instance has a cap limit, and if people rage over this on the forums i'll just get a bucket of popcorn and laugh at them in a maniacal way

Also, I need to learn how to multi-quote or drink more coffee in the morning

Joshuason - Raging Tide wrote: »

Copy and paste, copy and paste again, and open another window on the same page, that's how I do it! Also, i'm thinking this might be something to get into, what do I have to lose, doing the same thing over and over(which is pretty much what I'm doing now)? And just an aside, I wish i could customize my avatar more, my toon has blond hair, not brown! b:chuckle Just kidding! Oh yeah, this thread is about getting around levelling over again, so i'll be jumping over to the other thread(100+ pages, omg). see ya ingame b:victory

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hit Multi-off (to toggle it to Multi-on) on each post you want to quote before hitting the Quote button if you want to easy-mode multi-quote.

Ah, I see, TYVM b:chuckle Oh, I noticed also, if u want your quotes in a certain order you have to click Multi-off to Multi-on for the first quote you want listed, then the next and so on til you get to your last quote, THEN hit Quote. Yay, I learned 2 things from the blurb i put out, thanks again! b:pleased

__Sami__ - Archosaur

Add verdant jade into the list if its not getting changed too, some idiot popped his before he thought bout the 260k xp. Oh well, least I got the good reward for it, 3 ecstacy cards.

sm3ag0l

SonofAnarchy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I know this thread is about ways to get back to 100+ quickly but what's the point? It seems rather counterproductive to what the new update is trying to achieve. Correct me if I'm wrong and occasionally I am but to me it seems like being reborn will have lots of people back in low level content so when new players come to the game they see busy low lvl questers they can level up with instead of empty starter cities meeting no one till u go to Arch which can surely only be a good thing? Power levelling back to 100 surely defeats this purpose does it not?

Now I'm not hating on people who wish to do this, it's your game and I'm not one to dictate or tell someone how to play their game but I never seen the mad urgency to get to "end game" because there are a lot of bored ppl at that level, u see them in WC a lot.

I'm looking forward to reawakening I think it will be fun as I remember 5 yrs ago starting this game how enjoyable I found it and how easy it was to make new questing buddies. Something I find more difficult now I'm 101

This thread almost sounds like a way to abuse the system to get back to a boring level IMO

exactly but thats there problem i hope for myself its gonna be fun to do something else for a change all the 100+ instances atm are rather boring even the weekly AEU is getting old so yeah being low lvl again prob gives a new twist on the game and maybe makes it a lot less boring. whats the point of skipping something new to be bored again as most are these days thats just stupid in my opinion i'm gonna play fair if the update works prob gonna be a lot easier to get to 100 these days judging you got lots more dailies that give experience then 5 years ago and you get more exp anyways if you reincarnate so i think powerlvling is going to be kinda obsolete and just for the people who wanna be bored again in a few days as they are now b:victory

Selak - Dreamweaver

__Sami__ - Archosaur wrote: »

Dont be stupid. Amounts of sticks is obviously infinite, more people playing this game wont affect the amount of new players in negative manner. Well if we exclude the extreme of too much load for servers, which isnt even remotely realistic for PWI. Just because Players Mike and Molly choose to play this game as they wish, they in no way remove you the option to play it was you want. Sure, they arent playing the game with you as you would like to but you can just find other people who want to play the game like you do.

I beg to differ, but there are very few true MMORPGs left, most games today use the format of a MMOFPS/TPS,
but 5+ years ago when I joined this game they advertised MMORPG play style. Thats why I joined and invested so much real life time and money.

As I have said before over the years in this forum the advertising should be changed to reflect the true modern style of play in the game and people should stop saying its a MMORPG and call it what it is, then people like me will just go and find a real MMORPG instead of coming here and bothering you all with our obvious displeasure at being conned.

I have played/coded PC games for over 30 years and know that PvP is very boring and predictable in the end, as no player can be coded to kill you as fast as an NPC can be coded too, we are limited by human reflex activation time (approx 0.2 to about 0.75 sec depending on fitness, age and reflexive memory. If you are not sure what I mean read about propagation time of a neural impulse.)
Whereas the NPCs reaction time is limited by the coder and can be set to react faster than you if the coder so desires.

Setting the NPC to not kill you is actually a fine art, it takes more thought to balance this than you think, so the player is not frustrated at dying all the time or winning all the time. This is the main reason most companies are moving to MMOFPS/TPS where all you need to do is code balanced skill and armor sets for the average player with an average reflex time which turns out its cheaper and quicker too do, than adding a decent NPC for a battle which does not die fast or be impossible to kill for all the character types found in a game.

This is why I love playing/coding RPG online or offline and think anything which bypasses the designed play is cheating, not only the work done by the coder, but also, yourself out of the maximum enjoyable time for play before the inevitable boredom sets in.

I also have my favorite MMOFPS/TPS games I play, but at least they are honest and call themselves what they are, and not be sheep in wolves clothing like this game is, and no the word order is not a mistake, its my personal opinion.

viktorbg

Any info how this system will work with venos and their pets, does pets get to lvl 1 as well?

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver

What about http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/27394? It doesn't seem to have changed in the chinese version and it's useable from lvl 1. As long as you have some charge reward points.

viktorbg wrote: »

Any info how this system will work with venos and their pets, does pets get to lvl 1 as well?

Pets will keep their lvls, but the venos will need to reach somewhere around lvl 40ish to be able to use their 100+ pets.

_Thia_ - Dreamweaver

I dont know what kind of idiot continues to play a game that "forces" players to go back to lvl 1 just to make more money on exp items, specially when there is so much better games out there. I guess people like to be exploited.b:chuckle

echtzeitmesser

Good luck stacking all the exp items. You lose them all when you reincarnate and only get them back later when leveling to certain level. It is confirmed. b:laugh b:chuckle

Suprprutty - Lost City

_Thia_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I dont know what kind of idiot continues to play a game that "forces" players to go back to lvl 1 just to make more money on exp items, specially when there is so much better games out there. I guess people like to be exploited.b:chuckle

..and what exactly are you doing on the forums then? Are you one of those people that are oh so happy with the oh so amazing new game you're playing that you want to tell all these idiots how oh so great it is?

If ya quit go play your game and stop wasting your time here like the rest of us idiots we are ;3

SeaCups - Dreamweaver

It's so easy to level in this game , why even bother stacking anything, why rush to be high level again and say "there aint nothing for us to do " LOL

I'm actually looking forward in doing a bh39 etc. with the level bracket it was made for, instead of having a high level speed thru it, because most think you need a high level to do those bh'sb:shutup

Just to even have fun for a day or two , before most just powerlevel right back up.

eraldus

_Thia_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I dont know what kind of idiot continues to play a game that "forces" players to go back to lvl 1 just to make more money on exp items, specially when there is so much better games out there. I guess people like to be exploited.b:chuckle

Says the idiot that stopped playing, but keeps lingering on these forums.

Do us all a solid and off yourself, dumbass. b:bye

__Sami__ - Archosaur

I got 1m xp in divine quest and fantasy fruits. Add secret man daily 990k, whatever 10 tiger rewards give for what I can pop "instantly". CoF letter from Morai, some CoF letter I once got from tigers and obviously the normal cube access for 3m. New hypers waiting to be burned w/o exhaustion with ability to pop new ones when these are done. 2x BH1 and 2x BH2 on quest list done waiting as the rumors say you get xp from BHs after expansion. I am expecting to pop 45-60 w/o touching a single mob. Well as long as sercet man daily on quest list works and depending what other things actually work, you never know which might not. When I manage to enter Morai I got CS waiting done on quest list . But all in all, I should have access to my gear fairly quickly, which will be good for the amount of space it would take in my bag. Guess its time to hit bed.

FlyRanger - Dreamweaver

Selak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I beg to differ, but there are very few true MMORPGs left, most games today use the format of a MMOFPS/TPS,
but 5+ years ago when I joined this game they advertised MMORPG play style. Thats why I joined and invested so much real life time and money.

As I have said before over the years in this forum the advertising should be changed to reflect the true modern style of play in the game and people should stop saying its a MMORPG and call it what it is, then people like me will just go and find a real MMORPG instead of coming here and bothering you all with our obvious displeasure at being conned.

I have played/coded PC games for over 30 years and know that PvP is very boring and predictable in the end, as no player can be coded to kill you as fast as an NPC can be coded too, we are limited by human reflex activation time (approx 0.2 to about 0.75 sec depending on fitness, age and reflexive memory. If you are not sure what I mean read about propagation time of a neural impulse.)
Whereas the NPCs reaction time is limited by the coder and can be set to react faster than you if the coder so desires.

Setting the NPC to not kill you is actually a fine art, it takes more thought to balance this than you think, so the player is not frustrated at dying all the time or winning all the time. This is the main reason most companies are moving to MMOFPS/TPS where all you need to do is code balanced skill and armor sets for the average player with an average reflex time which turns out its cheaper and quicker too do, than adding a decent NPC for a battle which does not die fast or be impossible to kill for all the character types found in a game.

This is why I love playing/coding RPG online or offline and think anything which bypasses the designed play is cheating, not only the work done by the coder, but also, yourself out of the maximum enjoyable time for play before the inevitable boredom sets in.

I also have my favorite MMOFPS/TPS games I play, but at least they are honest and call themselves what they are, and not be sheep in wolves clothing like this game is, and no the word order is not a mistake, its my personal opinion.

PVP is amazing, especially when you're communicating with your opponent...

My opponent has amazing reaction time, perfect memory, and a sexy voice.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

I'm having some doubts now on whether you can actually turn in high level quests at lvl 1.

I noticed they added a new error message:
"Player level is too low."

That might be an error when you try to turn in but who knows.

Crones - Heavens Tear

Annabonana - Morai wrote: »

now the headline is a little missleading what i really mean is lets find out some smart ideas for how to go around the awakening system by abusing high lvl quests etc for exp!!

Please explain in detail how it works

Ways

1.
Do BH 100s and stack the Brainpower Orb giving exp so you can use them once lvl 70 again.

2.
Have a lvl 100 Crazy stone quest in your list to get that 18.2 million exp in an instant once lvl 1.
( i know it's not cheap but to powerlvl back to 100? worth )

3.
exchange 2 Crushed emblem from weekly abba to get Ruined book of disparity

4.
Stock up on Merit Badges from arch assault and use once lvl 20 again

5.
Stock up on Experience Jade's in morai.

6.
Stock up on Fantasy Fruits from the Lucid NPC daily.


Things people might easily forget

1.
Morai is a lvl 70 instance, so you won't get in untill 70

unless they are changing it last I checked.....morai you have to be lv95 or higher to get into I don't know where your getting its a lv70 instance from or my 80ish alts woulda been in there and had quests done and everything im just sayin

Sien - Heavens Tear

Crones - Heavens Tear wrote: »

unless they are changing it last I checked.....morai you have to be lv95 or higher to get into I don't know where your getting its a lv70 instance from or my 80ish alts woulda been in there and had quests done and everything im just sayin

This, you have to be 95 to unlock and enter.

Rye - Morai

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I noticed they added a new error message:
"Player level is too low."

That might be an error when you try to turn in but who knows.

Did anyone check if you can get BH1/BH2 reward (done before you reawake) being lower than 100+?

Miqqo - Harshlands

High level quests cannot be turned in (for example BH100), Brainpower orbs can't be used on reawakened characters (they added a text saying so). That's all I noticed so far.

Frosya - Dreamweaver

Have you checked if the Morai exp jades can be used? Provided you have those stashed.
And does x4 exp affect those?

And has anybody tried to turn in 100+ order of the void quests?

Mosz - Heavens Tear

Frosya - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Have you checked if the Morai exp jades can be used? Provided you have those stashed.
And does x4 exp affect those?

And has anybody tried to turn in 100+ order of the void quests?

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1654291

read the stickied FAQ

steelerzfan13

Annabonana - Morai wrote: »

now the headline is a little missleading what i really mean is lets find out some smart ideas for how to go around the awakening system by abusing high lvl quests etc for exp!!

Please explain in detail how it works

Ways

1.
Do BH 100s and stack the Brainpower Orb giving exp so you can use them once lvl 70 again.

2.
Have a lvl 100 Crazy stone quest in your list to get that 18.2 million exp in an instant once lvl 1.
( i know it's not cheap but to powerlvl back to 100? worth )

3.
exchange 2 Crushed emblem from weekly abba to get Ruined book of disparity

4.
Stock up on Merit Badges from arch assault and use once lvl 20 again

5.
Stock up on Experience Jade's in morai.

6.
Stock up on Fantasy Fruits from the Lucid NPC daily.


Things people might easily forget

1.
Morai is a lvl 70 instance, so you won't get in untill 70

cant get reawakening stone and dont know why im lvl 100 finished culties