R9rr

geochris

I am at a delema I have enough for r9 atm but I am not certain which toon I should give it to.

I currently have two lv101 characters veno and sin.

My veno has +10s3 armor and wep so I don't really near r9 for this toon

I was thinking of getting it for my sin so I could have 4aps with the r9rr dagger, however I already have full aps gear with +12GoF S2 daggers.


Is there another class I should consider? I would like a toon that I can both farm TT(mostly) but other instances also and effectively with and one that I can NW with. I currently NW with my veno.

I have heard good things about mystics (I have played one until the 70's) and it could be nice to have a healer accompany my Sin to solo TT's. What about seekers, or any other class for that matter?

So R9 my sin for the daggers and replace my s2+12 GoF daggers or should I R9 another class?

Thanks for your imput

WannaBM - Archosaur

As for upgrading your sins weapon: Upgrading it to G16 with -int will gain you about 20% damage output.
Then upgrading it to r9 at the cost of going from 5 to 4 APS will gain you another 15-20% or somthing like that. Of course those weapons then need to be +12 too.

If you want to keep it an APS farmer, r9 armor would not be the best idea for your sin

I also dont know what are the armors on your sin. If it is 3 parts r8r with int and all that refined to +10, it would be considered a powerfull farmer and probably be able to solo pretty much anything without a healer anyway. In that case adding a healer doesnt seem so usefull.

Besides the mystic Id consider:

BM to accompany your sin and use HF. This will probably be the best addition to speed up your farming.

APS barb to accompany your sin in TT farming. Damage output will be similar to the BM, but you lack HF so the farming speed increase is a bit less. On the other hand, the barb is generally considered one of the better NW classes while the BM is considered one of the worst. Also, you say R9 then note that the barb can have 5APS wearing 4 parts r9 and 1 part r8r if you get it a double int G16 weapon. This makes it an ultimately tanky APS toon. If your sin keeps it current weapon and you properly max out the barb, it could out DD your sin and thus tank. Dont worry about the noobs telling you an APS barb is not good at whatever other task. We are talking a 10-15% reduction in damage output with has axe when compared to a full STR barb, or a 3000 buffed+tiger HP reduction when compared to a vit barb. Yes, you have to give up a little but not that much. IMO this is a very versatile PvE toon primarily. It is good vs single targets as well as multiple targets (very easy to solo TMs & PV as well as TT) and im also addicted to the running speed

Fissile - Archosaur

Unless you are PKing on your sin, getting r9 isn't going to make much of a difference. As stated before you will need to get rrr9 daggers to +8 or +9 to match your current damage output.

If you love your veno I would recommend getting r9 on that one. You can always stash the +10 s3 gear and use it on a new caster if you make one.

Desdi - Sanctuary

I will agree that if the Assassin is primarily a farming toon, your current gear should be enough assuming the armor is something like +10. R9r3 weapon is nice for farming but I don't think it makes an absolute difference and the R9r3 armor mainly shines in PvP.

I'll probably sound biased (hint at the avatar) but I see R9r3 as being rather worthy for Venomancers. To me it's a really fun class. R9r3 opens up more offensive opportunities to you as well as much better overall survivability (provided similar refines as old Nirvana set). Venomancers aren't just about purging or being a debuff slave. They can be pretty great in offence too but you should know that already as you play one yourself.

On the other hand, as far as I've played Mystics, they are a fun class too and they can do a lot of things as well as be great support for the squad or a great offensive force. The upside is that Mystics are relatively unpopular in PvP compared to other classes and a lot of people don't know how to deal with them. The downside would be, I guess, that it's probably not something you really need with farming (most of my farming is done with a sin friend and we just use a cleric for buffs...don't really need heals).

A Cleric is lots of fun in PvP too and can be very scary but you may often end up being pure support (that's the main job of Clerics anyway) and not get to go into offence mode often. It also falls into the same category as the Mystic; not really necessary for farming.

Blademaster and Barbarian may be good options too as WannaBm posted.

geochris

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

I also dont know what are the armors on your sin. If it is 3 parts r8r with int and all that refined to +10, it would be considered a powerfull farmer and probably be able to solo pretty much anything without a healer anyway. In that case adding a healer doesnt seem so usefull.

My sins armor is s2+10(DoTx7) helm/pants, TT99 boots/wrist/orns (+6, exclusive garnets and 3x Cit Gems), pan Gu and +7 skycover (w/ +63 mdef). I would love to have 5.0 r8r but that seems too expensive for me.

I can farm 3-1 if I have a HP cham but not 3-2 or 3-3. Even with a HP charm my sin can die when fighting GBA if get purged. A healer would be nice so I wouldn't tick the charm as much.

Also: my Veno's s3 gear is lunar so it is fully tradeable.

Zoldi - Morai

geochris wrote: »

I have heard good things about mystics (I have played one until the 70's) and it could be nice to have a healer accompany my Sin to solo TT's.

If you consider bringing the mystic to TT only to heal you sin, you might not need R9.3
But Mystics can be really effective to solo farm TT due to nice DD (with invigorate) and heals

Some bosses in 3.3 might be easier to kill with your sin though (but my sin is not good enough, so I can't really compare both)

And I would say that Mystics are an interesting class to play in PVP but not the easiest.

WannaBM - Archosaur

geochris wrote: »

My sins armor is s2+10(DoTx7) helm/pants, TT99 boots/wrist/orns (+6, exclusive garnets and 3x Cit Gems), pan Gu and +7 skycover (w/ +63 mdef). I would love to have 5.0 r8r but that seems too expensive for me.

I can farm 3-1 if I have a HP cham but not 3-2 or 3-3. Even with a HP charm my sin can die when fighting GBA if get purged. A healer would be nice so I wouldn't tick the charm as much.

Also: my Veno's s3 gear is lunar so it is fully tradeable.

How can that be too expensive for you, yet you say you have the money to equip a toon R9 ?

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide

Fissile - Archosaur wrote: »

Unless you are PKing on your sin, getting r9 isn't going to make much of a difference. As stated before you will need to get rrr9 daggers to +8 or +9 to match your current damage output.

If you love your veno I would recommend getting r9 on that one. You can always stash the +10 s3 gear and use it on a new caster if you make one.

I think this is the best idea. You already have the best farming toon you need, a 5aps sin with +12 daggers.

Good R9rr classes in NW, TW, PK, are IMO: Psychic, Seeker, Wizard, Barb, Veno, Archer, Cleric.

Since you also already have a full T3+10 veno for NW, why not make a third class for more diversity? I like having a decent handful of toons to play, it makes the game a wee bit more interesting that way.

Zoldi - Morai

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »

Since you also already have a full T3+10 veno for NW, why not make a third class for more diversity? I like having a decent handful of toons to play, it makes the game a wee bit more interesting that way.

Follow this idea on your mystic and then try NW on it. After that, you will probably decide to give R9 to this mystic b:victory

FlyRanger - Dreamweaver

If you can afford 6M every 10 minutes in pk for a hp charm, you could rank the barb, otherwise, if you want most profit/time then you should do an archer, because it charm naturally ticks less, and can do more damage in Nation Wars to grab more contribution.

Daggaa - Harshlands

R9rr the daggers on sin + bp at 4aps (given the dags are +10 or higher) and thats all youll need to farm 3-3 with the other armor your sin has.. NUFF SAID

Fissile - Archosaur

geochris wrote: »

My sins armor is s2+10(DoTx7) helm/pants, TT99 boots/wrist/orns (+6, exclusive garnets and 3x Cit Gems), pan Gu and +7 skycover (w/ +63 mdef). I would love to have 5.0 r8r but that seems too expensive for me.

I can farm 3-1 if I have a HP cham but not 3-2 or 3-3. Even with a HP charm my sin can die when fighting GBA if get purged. A healer would be nice so I wouldn't tick the charm as much.

Also: my Veno's s3 gear is lunar so it is fully tradeable.

If you can't solo 3-2 with that gear, then you are doing something wrong b:lipcurl