G15 or G16 LA helm+cape?

zhaominnn

Which set do you guys think is better and why? For archer of cause

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Assuming R9, right?

Anything less than that should be full G16

In that case, G16 set has the defensive advantage because 100 of each defense is worth exactly jack**** compared to 1-2 flat out % reduction

G16 has an advantage of 20+ dex.

5 atk levels grants little to no real damage gain. 20 dex does.

700HP is a very nice bonus

Higher refine rate of G16 + higher base

Salari - Raging Tide

Ever thought of using HA instead for cape/hat once you get full r9s3 you can restat 50 str to wear them. With all the engraving now days + an upgraded lud you can gain back those stats plus some.

When its done that set will give you atleast 400 more hp just from the helm(and 2 set bonus) and a tad bit more defenses from the str.

Thoughts?

I have been thinking of doing this with my sin, working on testing it out on "another" server. I just need to farm tt some so I can make another hat/cape

Jarkhen - Archosaur

G16 > G15, both for offensive and defensive purposes.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

In that case, G16 set has the defensive advantage because 100 of each defense is worth exactly jack**** compared to 1-2 flat out % reduction

1-2% damage reduction isn't much, actually. "Reduce Physical/Magical Damage by x%" effects do not stack additively with pdef/mdef reductions, so what you end up having is just a flat extra 1-2% reduction - if someone hit you for 1000 damage before taking that reduction into account (including pdef/mdef, def/attack levels, etc), they would hit you for 990 or 980 with it. Granted, it's still more than the extra ~0.5-0.7% reduction 100 pdef would give, but not much -- and G15 gives both pdef and mdef, while the % reduction on g16 is only for phys.

Other than that, completely agreed with your points.

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

Ever thought of using HA instead for cape/hat once you get full r9s3 you can restat 50 str to wear them. With all the engraving now days + an upgraded lud you can gain back those stats plus some.

When its done that set will give you atleast 400 more hp just from the helm(and 2 set bonus) and a tad bit more defenses from the str.

Thoughts?

I have been thinking of doing this with my sin, working on testing it out on "another" server. I just need to farm tt some so I can make another hat/cape

The extra HP is nowhere near enough to warrant the loss of dex required for this. If for some reason you were going for an aps build, maybe, since you'd need more str anyway... but for r9r3, not worth the damage loss.

Salari - Raging Tide

What damage lose are you referring to, you can gain back 12-24 dex back with the hat/cape alone, not even counting engraving nor a base int tome.

You are still going to have 600+ dex and that is not even tweeking any. Its not like we are talking end game 4 years ago where dropping 50 dex would break the class.

Bhavyy - Raging Tide

Because archers overall defenses come mainly from gameplay style anyway?we're not designed to take damage, just deal it and get away without getting 1 shot by just about anything else. Aka the dex is simply more useful. The only thing better than g16 is the heaven rager set or the wings of Ascension and helmet set with the +9 att lvl bonus.

Jarkhen - Archosaur

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

What damage lose are you referring to, you can gain back 12-24 dex back with the hat/cape alone, not even counting engraving nor a base int tome.

You are still going to have 600+ dex and that is not even tweeking any. Its not like we are talking end game 4 years ago where dropping 50 dex would break the class.

Yes, you can gain back 12-24 dex with the hat/cape... but you could also get that dex with LA G16 helm/cape. You're still losing 50 dex no matter how you look at it, and for a class that's focused on damage output 400 hp is nowhere near as desirable as ~1k+ patk and 2-3% crit.

As Bhavvy mentioned, the Kaestra's Descent set or the Heaven Ravager "set" are the only two things better than G16 LA for archers.