Was it REALLY necessary to put in the Pedophilia and Desperate Stalker Search Engine?

ParasiteEve_ - Raging Tide

I for one am truly aghast by the implementation of your Match.com feature, WHAT THE HELL are you trying to promote here ??

I hope your company stands total liability should anything happen to your influential and vulnerable underage players and well as all the single women and men who risk being harassed using that feature!!!

Really you people are trying to turn an online game into something else which I'm sure you lack the safety precautions for.


I'm very disappointed PWI that you guys choose to go down this path.

bluestuffzzz

ParasiteEve_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I for one am truly aghast by the implementation of your Match.com feature, WHAT THE HELL are you trying to promote here ??

I hope your company stands total liability should anything happen to your influential and vulnerable underage players and well as all the single women and men who risk being harassed using that feature!!!

Really you people are trying to turn an online game into something else which I'm sure you lack the safety precautions for.


I'm very disappointed PWI that you guys choose to go down this path.

It is unfortunate that this feature came to our version. I saw it coming when it initially came out on PW-CN, but had hoped that it would be one of those niche features that didn't get pushed out to our release.

The issue people have is with the underage partner/love interest(below 18 = a minor in the USA), which is completely justified. The rest of this feature is fairly pointless, but it's fine. The whole pedophilia thing is valid in this case, because a lot of folks in this MMO are under 18, and they may indeed be taken advantage of in "finding love" under 18.

PWE should seriously consider what they are offering here. This is a video game about slaying monsters and bosses with social interaction. This is not a dating service, and surely not a service for dating men or women under the age of 18. In the USA, it would be possible to go after PWE in court by means of underage solicitation of minors.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

I agree about how useless a feature this is, but in your dramatics you overlooked one thing -- it's between pixels in a game, nowhere does it promote a relationship outside of it.

Pop a xanax and play the game.

Eoria - Harshlands

Yes. It was completely necessary.

Nature_God - Sanctuary

And getting married in PWI is okay??? Get real.

bluestuffzzz

Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »

And getting married in PWI is okay??? Get real.

Even though I understand what you're getting at, getting married in-game is a bit different. It's implied by the game's ToS that you are above a certain age, and getting married in-game doesn't specifically state anything about age. It's implied that the two people are of age. Also, getting married costs money in-game (coins or real life cash), so it's expected that you have invested time for coins, or have money in real life.

On the other hand, this matchmaker actually has tiers of ages. When they say under 18, it's implied that the person is a minor.

Annastasia - Lost City

ParasiteEve_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I for one am truly aghast by the implementation of your Match.com feature, WHAT THE HELL are you trying to promote here ??

I hope your company stands total liability should anything happen to your influential and vulnerable underage players and well as all the single women and men who risk being harassed using that feature!!!

Really you people are trying to turn an online game into something else which I'm sure you lack the safety precautions for.


I'm very disappointed PWI that you guys choose to go down this path.

totally agree with you. since PWI is a 13 years and older game, i am waiting for the lawsuits to start from unhappy parents. nothing like letting the pedos target a specific age (ie under 18). sad what PWE will do for money.

Breannak - Raging Tide

I don't approve of the annoying pms either, im with yah on this.

Nature_God - Sanctuary

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

Even though I understand what you're getting at, getting married in-game is a bit different. It's implied by the game's ToS that you are above a certain age, and getting married in-game doesn't specifically state anything about age. It's implied that the two people are of age. Also, getting married costs money in-game (coins or real life cash), so it's expected that you have invested time for coins, or have money in real life.

On the other hand, this matchmaker actually has tiers of ages. When they say under 18, it's implied that the person is a minor.

But in marriage, two people don't know each others age, female player might be under 18 and male player might be 30+, is that right then? And PWI never mentioned that these lovers we must meet now in real life etc, they didn't say that this is now real thing. This lover thing might be for the reason that we find someone who is match in game and then later marry in-game? Because its actually hard to find someone to get married with. Hopefully you understood this point, kinda hard to explain.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Eh, I just think they should have removed the "lover" option. Finding a friend or a mentor through the system is not too bad.

I just don't see it much different from regular members stalking you and whatnot.

I agree it was unecessary but I don't see it suddenly increasing the number of drama and incidents. I've already known quite a few on my server long before this matching system was even implemented in PWCN.

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver

Not sure if you saw it but we have new optimization button to which you can press and see all people around you naked (well in under ware).

Nice addition to new pedo service.

Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear

I fail to see how this is anything like you guys are talking about. 1 its optional you can ignore ignore ignore it without ever touching it. 2, It's stupid it's non specific as well as it seems to be very random.

I tested it out earlier answered the same exact way on two online characters. They were never matched for anything at all. I changed the answers slightly and did about 10 more tests, they were never matched. Not when I kept their answers the same, nor when I differed them slightly. Also, each toon got different matches than the other even when I "refreshed" the listing.

Honestly, I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion in a major way. Just ignore it and go on with your life, let silly people have their silly fun.

Wickedbrew - Raging Tide

Its an OPTIONAL feature. You don't have to use it.

Maybe what the GM said holds some water that they will make sure its not abused.

In the interm, don't use it. I know I won't be using it. Hell, I even think marriage in the game is a joke.

Brillance - Raging Tide

ParasiteEve_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I for one am truly aghast by the implementation of your Match.com feature, WHAT THE HELL are you trying to promote here ??

I hope your company stands total liability should anything happen to your influential and vulnerable underage players and well as all the single women and men who risk being harassed using that feature!!!

Really you people are trying to turn an online game into something else which I'm sure you lack the safety precautions for.


I'm very disappointed PWI that you guys choose to go down this path.

How does this turn the game into 'something else'?

Ive played 3 years, and during that time ingame marriage has always been possible. Never saw the 'perv-haters' get all flustered over it before.

Suddenly what folks have been doing all along on Skype, Vent, WC and by PM is a bad bad thing? f:confused

Okies, guess they need to do away with all forms of ingame communication - cause when peeps see the word 'lover' their mind automatically goes to 'pervert'...

okies, whatevers b:laugh

The under 18 option is a prevention of sorts - if you dont let people know how old you are, or lie about how old you are, they might be lured into saying something inappropriate, or having something inappropriate said to them. *shrugs*

Parents have a responsibility to control what their underaged children do on the internet. Its not PWIs 'chore' to teach your children how to protect themselves. That's the responsibility of the parents, school, religious establishment of choice, etc.

Maybe the 'lover' option was put there just to bring 'interest' to the game - then again, it could have just been put there to get all the 'LF Sugar Daddy/Momma' discussions, half hour convos about 'licking stuff' and **** like that off of WC.

"Hey babe! Wanna get married??"

b:shocked "PERVERT!!!"

*shrugs*b:chuckle

It may surprise some to learn that in medieval times, knights would pledge themselves to Ladies they never laid eyes on, conquered entire nations for, and assumed themselves to be their 'lovers'.

FoxG - Raging Tide

Don't like it?
1 - Don't use it.
2 - Ignore it.
3 - If you can't do neither of the steps above, leave the game.

Now, only because a bunch of butthurt people don't like the system and are all like "ermahgerd pedos loliconz think of the childrene", does PW have to remove or simply don't implement new features? You funny.

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear

It is a dumb feature but also entertaining among guild folk to joke about.call it what you will but I see no harm in this none at all.so quit complaining.

Malei - Sanctuary

Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I fail to see how this is anything like you guys are talking about. 1 its optional you can ignore ignore ignore it without ever touching it. 2, It's stupid it's non specific as well as it seems to be very random.

I tested it out earlier answered the same exact way on two online characters. They were never matched for anything at all. I changed the answers slightly and did about 10 more tests, they were never matched. Not when I kept their answers the same, nor when I differed them slightly. Also, each toon got different matches than the other even when I "refreshed" the listing.

Honestly, I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion in a major way. Just ignore it and go on with your life, let silly people have their silly fun.

This isn't anywhere near as drastic as they are trying to make it seem, I'm quite sure. This system has been either ignored, giving a few laughs to people, or working in lieu of people finding their 'mentors/friends/lovers' and actually talking more outside of their FIs and circles due to sheer entertainment. I've no idea how many people have PM'd me asking to squad up, do a quest together, or simply say hi to me since this was placed in, and I've added about five of them to my FI due to having a cool conversation or playing around with them. Hell, I even joined a faction to play with most of them more.

Can it be abused? Of course, like almost everything else, people can find a way to use it for troll reasons. But its optional and the people who contact you can be ignored/blacklisted.

Is it working for its intended purposes? From what I've seen, yes.

Also:

Not sure if you saw it but we have new optimization button to which you can press and see all people around you naked (well in under ware).

Nice addition to new pedo service.

If my memory serves correctly, loong, loong before TB or EG or even Genies, some websites had an [illegal] patch out for PWI that allowed you to see the characters completely nude if they went into their default fashion modes. Trust me, if there were perverts on this game, between Marriage and Patches like those, this new system won't change a thing.

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

I understand the concerns, but lets be realistic for a moment here people.. Perfect Match isn't a dating profile by any means. It is based off of character genders - not real life genders. I'm sure we all know that about 50% of female characters are G.I.R.L.s The system is less about matching someone with a real life online dating/potential future real life mate as it is about matching someone with an opposite gender character they might want to marry in game. I've only talked to people through P-Match that I've also talked to on vent previously and know they are actually female.

Wouldn't it be so incredibly awkward if pedo guy 50 year old signs up on the under 18 section and meets a G.I.R.L thinking its a girl?

Honestly I think both/all sides are at a disadvantage as to not knowing if the other person is accurately representing themselves. Such is the reason why you should not just rush over to someones house as soon as you make a match on P-match. Play with them and talk with them in game for a while to see what they are like. Then do voice chat with them. If they refuse to do voice chat but want to meet up or ask you to send "pictures" - thats a red flag and you should break off contact with them. If voice chat is good - by all means go on to doing video chat. Share some facebook profiles or something. That is.. if you're really trying to use PWI as a way to hook up. Otherwise, just ignore P-Match altogether/disable yourself the "lovers" option. But by all means, even if you are 40 years old of any gender - don't just blindly agree to meet with someone in real life.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Malei - Sanctuary wrote: »

This isn't anywhere near as drastic as they are trying to make it seem, I'm quite sure. This system has been either ignored, giving a few laughs to people, or working in lieu of people finding their 'mentors/friends/lovers' and actually talking more outside of their FIs and circles due to sheer entertainment. I've no idea how many people have PM'd me asking to squad up, do a quest together, or simply say hi to me since this was placed in, and I've added about five of them to my FI due to having a cool conversation or playing around with them. Hell, I even joined a faction to play with most of them more.

Can it be abused? Of course, like almost everything else, people can find a way to use it for troll reasons. But its optional and the people who contact you can be ignored/blacklisted.

Is it working for its intended purposes? From what I've seen, yes.

Also:

If my memory serves correctly, loong, loong before TB or EG or even Genies, some websites had an [illegal] patch out for PWI that allowed you to see the characters completely nude if they went into their default fashion modes. Trust me, if there were perverts on this game, between Marriage and Patches like those, this new system won't change a thing.

Quoting for truth P: I agree.

Tetream - Lost City

Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »

[...]female player might be under 18 and male player might be 30+, is that right then?

Nope, this wouldn't be ok. But the other way around would be even hawt (referring to the male soutpark folk b:laugh)! We could make our own in-game Mrs Robinson song about it b:kiss.

pennywise29

It might have been useful 4 or 5 years ago when there was a lot of people playing the game. Now with a declining player population and more leaving the game every month, it's nothing but a useless piece of redundant garbage. To be used by bored players who are hell bent on spamming and harassing others through that system.

Someone needs help with quests or culti, they already use the existing system called Join a Faction.
Someone wants to make a friend or find a mentor, they already use the existing system called Join a Faction.
Someone wants to find an in-game marriage mate, they already use the two existing systems called Join a Faction and World Shout.

So why is this even needed?

Ignore it? I so try to. I have the dang thing turned of.. nothing in any of the settings. Only one small problem, there is now way to turn off that stupid blinking icon without opening the the dang thing. As if 1 blinking Icon wasn't enough now there are more.

So every time I switch characters log out and back in I have to deal with it. Ignore it? Can't be done. You'd think that an intelligent dev would have thought up some kind of setting thing for "options", like someone said it was, where we could place a check-press a button then have it written to our ini files so these pointless so called options wouldn't even load.

PWE keeps coming up with these stupid ideas thinking it will enhance the game instead of listening to what few players they have left and taking care of things that are needed to be taken care of instead of trying to fix stuff that was never broken. Keep up your good work PWE - PWI and keep losing more players.

_PebbIes_ - Heavens Tear

It does seem a little useless but I think its funny and having fun with it. xD

Nature_God - Sanctuary

If couple of blinking icons annoy you and you can't ignore it, then something must be really wrong with you. Doesn't bother me at all.

CapnK - Sanctuary

People are upset about the wrong thing! The only option for older people is "Over 33". Do we really want 40 year olds matched with 60 year olds? b:laugh

Kuzshi - Dreamweaver

I don't see what the problem is here, guys. I'm an underage girl looking for love! *puts on Chris Hansen outfit*

Deltasin - Dreamweaver

This is a lot of uproar over practically nothing.

I discovered the "underwear button" as I am calling it last night. I'm not sure how seeing avatars in nice undies counts as pedophilia as the avatars don't look like children. Even if a minor is operating that sin, it doesn't mean that it counts as pedophilia.

And considering how many guys I know play female toons, I'm not sure how successful the lover option is anyways.

Also, not sure how much pedophilia could be going on with people unable to talk about ***** going into ***** and then maybe a ***** followed by a ******. Over and over again, with the ******, and the ******. Its not going to warp kids' minds.

Brillance - Raging Tide

Deltasin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is a lot of uproar over practically nothing.

I discovered the "underwear button" as I am calling it last night. I'm not sure how seeing avatars in nice undies counts as pedophilia as the avatars don't look like children. Even if a minor is operating that sin, it doesn't mean that it counts as pedophilia.

And considering how many guys I know play female toons, I'm not sure how successful the lover option is anyways.

Also, not sure how much pedophilia could be going on with people unable to talk about ***** going into ***** and then maybe a ***** followed by a ******. Over and over again, with the ******, and the ******. Its not going to warp kids' minds.

Hopefully, Mommy or Daddy took a minute to tell the kiddies, "if it doesnt feel right - Blacklist it!"b:chuckle

Azura - Lost City

Pedophilia? There shouldnt be any kids playing this game anyway. What's your point?

bobyjoee

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

Pedophilia? There shouldnt be any kids playing this game anyway. What's your point?

ehh well this game is for 13+

Kittennice - Heavens Tear

Yep
I just love them little boys with those 12 pixel epeens
:P

STrickeeN - Harshlands

ParasiteEve_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

I for one am truly aghast by the implementation of your Match.com feature, WHAT THE HELL are you trying to promote here ??

I hope your company stands total liability should anything happen to your influential and vulnerable underage players and well as all the single women and men who risk being harassed using that feature!!!

Really you people are trying to turn an online game into something else which I'm sure you lack the safety precautions for.


I'm very disappointed PWI that you guys choose to go down this path.

why dont u talk from ur MAIN and not from an ALT? what a coward.
i don't know why ppl r so senstive nowadays... its a silly game with non-sexual content.. the new update is inofensive.. and i am sure facebook is by far worse than this new system..
just relax and stop nagging about silly things. If u dont like pwi anymore then D E L E T IT