Let's Discuss Semi-endgame Weaponry :D

Brillance - Raging Tide

Yes, semi-endgame because I dont have any personal knowledge of R9 to R9rr weapons. I know they exist, but for the purposes of discussion and comparison, this thread is limited to Nirvana Magic Weapons L16, and R8 L14 to R8r L15.

I have also left out Nirvana Level 15 weapons. The reason being, I agree with those that say, "if you do Level 15, there is no reason not to go ahead and do level 16."

If anyone would like to include these weapons, and feel they would make a good contribution to helping others choose their individual 'proper route' to a good weapon, please feel free to write them up and post it. I will easily include it. b:thanks

The Weapons

Verdant Soul Staff

Wand Rank 8 - Level 14

Attack Speed 1.25, Range 3

Bare Bones Magic Attack: 1113 - 1448
+5 Refine: Attack +148


Assigned Addons: 3

Channeling -6%
MP +310
Critical Hit 4%

Verdant Soul Staff: Eon

Wand Rank 8 Recast - Level 15

Attack Speed 1.25, Range 3

Bare Bones Magic Attack: 1168 - 1507
+5 Refine: Attack +160


A Cornucopia of possible Addons includes: 4

Strength +8~20 - 6.25%
Dexterity +8~20 - 6.25%

Magic +8~20 - 6.25%
Vitality +8~20 - 6.25%

Atk. Level +1~5 - 6.25%
Def. Level +1~5 - 6.25%

Critical Hit Rate +1~2% - 6.25%

HP: +120~300 - 6.25%
MP +200~400 - 6.25%

Accuracy +10~50 - 6.25%

Phys. Res.: +150~450 - 6.25%
Mag. Res.: +150~450 - 6.25%

Reduce Physical damage taken +1~5% - 6.25%
Reduce Magic damage taken +1~5% - 6.25%

Channelling 1~3% - 6.25%

Maximum Magic Attack +80~180 - 6.25%


Probability to have an unique addon: 100%

Purify Spell: Has a chance to remove debuff when being attacked,
and immune to stun and slow, and increase speed by 200%, lasts for 5 seconds. - 6.67%

Infinite: Has a chance to recover 2,100 HP in 9 seconds while being
attacked, while increasing Mana by 50 points. - 13.33%

Requirement -25% - 26.67%

Atk. Level +10~25 - 6.67%

Def. Level +10~25 - 26.67%

Critical Hit Rate +3~6% - 13.33%

Channelling 3~10% - 6.67%

Sandy World

Magic Sword Nirvana Level 16
Attack Speed 1.25, Range 3

Bare Bones Magic Attack: 1316 - 1608
+5 Refine: Attack +171

Addons to follow.

Glaive of Nirvana

Glaive Nirvana Level 16
Attack Speed 1.25, Range 3

Bare Bones Magic Attack: 1169 - 1753
+5 Refine: Attack +171

Addons to follow.

Foundation of World

Wand Nirvana Level 16
Attack Speed 1.25, Range 3

Bare Bones Magic Attack: 1448 - 1426
+5 Refine: Attack +171

Addons to follow.

Silence of Frost

Pataka Nirvana Level 16
Attack Speed 1.00, Range 3

Bare Bones Magic Attack: 1023 - 1900
+5 Refine: Attack +171

Addons to follow.


Possible Addons for all Nirvana Level 16 weapons:4

Magic Attack +100 - 5%
Maximum Magic Attack +130 - 5%

Channelling -3% - 1%

HP: +350 - 10%
MP +310 - 9%

Strength +18~19 - 10%
Dexterity +18~19 - 10%

Magic +18~19 - 10%
Vitality +18~19 - 10%

Critical Hit Rate +1% - 9.5%
Critical Hit Rate +2% - 0.5%

Reduce Physical damage taken +2% - 5%

Atk. Level +1 - 9%
Atk. Level +2 - 1%

Def. Level +1 - 4%
Def. Level +2 - 1%

Probability to have an unique addon: 100%

Atk. Level +40

Brillance - Raging Tide

I included a +5 Refine bonus, as that is an average refine level for a 100+ player to shoot for, as higher refines cost a LOT more money.

My motivation is personal. I'd like to hear comparisons of the weapons in order to help myself and others make a good or better choice.

I was forced into a Wand by R8. I always preferred Glaives before that. I dont mind the Wand, but for me, someone that likes to hit hard, I am leaning toward either the Glaive or the Sword.

Im also wondering if the changes in Mechanic and what-not since Attack and Defense levels took over, make the Pataka any more attractive for the average AA Mystic. Does its .25 faster speed do anything to compensate for the broad range of damage, and unreliable spikes?

Thanks for your input all. b:thanks

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

There's no point to getting a plain R8 weapon anymore. People getting the rep for R8 should do it for R8r (weapon) or if they plan to go for R9(rr).

For someone that don't plan to get R9(rr) they should get G16 or R8r (for the defense lvl).

For someone that do not PVP/TW I would suggest G16, for someone doing PVP/TW I would suggest to get a R8r with defense lvl, purify only if the person plan to have +10 gears/ornaments with good shards, other than that defense lvl are better than purify since purify only worth it if the person have great defense and survivability.

Also for G16, the magic sword is not better than the glaive or wand. I would not recommend a pataka, but for the rest magic sword, glaive or wand is not a big deal, majority of people chose the one they prefer on the look of the weapon.

R8 is like G15 Nirvy, a ''Why stop there, go R8r or R9(rr)''.

Brillance - Raging Tide

Thanks for the quick response Bella. I do plan to go R9, one day. ~sighs~

Why would I settle for anything less? Why would anyone truely settle for less?

I already have the Rep, its just a matter of getting up tons of coin.

I bought some of the Rep, but one can also farm it in Morai at no cost at all, other than your Influence.

You dont need to buy Rep at all, unless you are in a hurry, and its possible to farm in something like 30 days - but I think that time thing would depend on each player's personal schedule. b:surrender

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

For someone that do not PVP/TW I would suggest G16, for someone doing PVP/TW I would suggest to get a R8r with defense lvl, purify only if the person plan to have +10 gears/ornaments with good shards, other than that defense lvl are better than purify since purify only worth it if the person have great defense and survivability.

Also for G16, the magic sword is not better than the glaive or wand. I would not recommend a pataka, but for the rest magic sword, glaive or wand is not a big deal, majority of people chose the one they prefer on the look of the weapon.

R8 is like G15 Nirvy, a ''Why stop there, go R8r or R9(rr)''.

I agree with your reasoning that 'purify' is not something that should take the forefront. For me, its sort of like Channeling - nice but not a big priority. My problem with R8 Recast sadly involves luck (which I have none to not much in this game), and I really cant afford to keep rolling until I get a good set of Addons.

I like the G16's, but Im thinking the Wand would be better for Mystics that primarily heal because its Magic Attack is so consistent. I could be wrong about that, but anyways, I love Glaives (the look, like you said xD), but Im hoping to pinpoint what would really be the best choice for a duo Heal/DD Mystic. Thanks again. b:thanks

Xaner - Dreamweaver

r9r3 weapon <_< >_>
-Channeling,Big Heals,Better kiting.... Save up like a true mystic and buy it and treasure it... Till r10 comes out the next week you get it.

Brillance - Raging Tide

Xaner - Dreamweaver wrote: »

r9r3 weapon <_< >_>
-Channeling,Big Heals,Better kiting.... Save up like a true mystic and buy it and treasure it... Till r10 comes out the next week you get it.

I know right? Pretty similar to what happened to me with R8. Think the R9T3's will have to farm for it, or will it be reasonably priced, or will it be something **** like $ 15K USD? Will it totally out-class R9, as R9 does R8 - or, will it be a more inline upgrade, as with R7 to R8? b:thanks

I probably am wrong here, but if the game cant expand anywhere, and can only implode on itself, Im not convinced R10 will come along, although Im not entirely against it either. Either way, it will be interesting to see. b:chuckle

Xaner - Dreamweaver

So many people have r9r3 now...... If new gear doesn't come out everyone will +12 josd r9r3 and everyone will depend on skill to win!... Les be serious.... A better form of gear is going to come out, If not the game is dead and everyone quits.


Oh and my best guess... 15k USD, Then months later it wil be 1/3 that price to get it, Then Prices of the mats that are required to make the gear are going to drop more and it will be 1/5 of the original price

Brillance - Raging Tide

Xaner - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So many people have r9r3 now...... If new gear doesn't come out everyone will +12 josd r9r3 and everyone will depend on skill to win!... Les be serious.... A better form of gear is going to come out, If not the game is dead and everyone quits.


Oh and my best guess... 15k USD, Then months later it wil be 1/3 that price to get it, Then Prices of the mats that are required to make the gear are going to drop more and it will be 1/5 of the original price

Well, everyone who is anyone quits, right? b:cute

Im thinking the vast majority of players dont matter - "lol non-factors". I cant help but think that, looking at the past years updates. The people who mainly log in on weekends only for TW, and support the game on a level most of the real world cant, are the "lol factors" here.b:victory

I just hope they come out with it soon, if they are going to - although they will need to import a whole **** load of new content for it, in case anyone wants to play in R10 during the week. b:chuckle

Honestly, $15K USD is probably that extra little push many need to finally let the game go. Sort of puts a whole new spin on the concept of "less is more". b:cute

We are kind of off-topic now though, although its not totally unrelated.