5.0 sage g16 sin (cheaper option) or sparked 5.0 demon R9

velone333

hi I got 16 daggers 2x 0.05 int, 2x0.05 int on r8r plate, 1x0.05 on R8r boots - +pants ( 3 piece set gives another -0.1) G15 nirvy 0.1 hands, 2 HA ornaments (0.05) now i am about to get 0.05 int tome. With tome i will be base 5.0. At the moment I am demon sin, and i plan this sin as PvE character, should i go 5.0 sage g16 or R9 3.33 base demon???
sage spark (700% damage and 25% reduce damage taken) + sage BP would make me immortal . I dont know how R9 5.0 gonna work. I didnt compare damage yet... any suggestions?

Haila - Sanctuary

I would stay demon.
No need to make further investments for pve b:chuckle

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Go sage and you'll be better for DPH style pvp too, and with that kind of gear you can easily farm the coin needed b:laugh if you want

G16 is a safer option than R9. If you can hit 5.0 base with G16 then keep it, lol. Feel free to go sage if you want. At this point you've pretty much hit the top of gears for PVE.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

velone333 wrote: »

I got 16 daggers 2x 0.05 int,
2x0.05 int on r8r plate,
1x0.05 on R8r boots

...now i am about to get 0.05 int tome. With tome i will be base 5.0.

Wow... you did that in the wrong order. You dumb, lucky, sob.

Didn't you know you're supposed to get -int tome first, then spend the next 3 years and 11 billion coin trying to get 2x -.05 on chest and -.05 on boots?

For pve the damage difference between a 5 aps demon and a 3.33 aps sage is a demon will do about 51% more damage. 5 aps/3.33 aps is 50.2% more attacks in favor of demons, the difference between sage and demon weapon mastery is about 1.2% in favor of sages, and then wolf emblem is situational but for a flat foot race against a boss demon is better. Sage has its benefits in chi gain and in extended pvp like TW, but for dd demon is better. So for damage only, demon wins doing roughly 151% of what a sage does. This largely makes up for the difference in paint heal strength of 150%.

Now, for pvp, survivability, and how you play a sin that is a much much much larger question. Obviously sage win in survivability but with 2 pieces r8r and the extra sparks/chi that demon get its closer than most people think. For PvP sage is currently favored in the form of a dph sin, but that's also up to debate. Like I said, this should get its own thread and people can argue it endlessly.



Copy pasted my comment from the other thread you had this question in, although i realized I answered it incorrectly. I was assuming you were comparing 5 aps r9t3 demon or 3.33 r9t3 sage, using the same weapon. The real difference between 5 aps demon r9t3 and 5 aps sage G16 would be closer to 20-25% in favor of demon depending on r9t3 roll.

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Copy pasted my comment from the other thread you had this question in, although i realized I answered it incorrectly. I was assuming you were comparing 5 aps r9t3 demon or 3.33 r9t3 sage, using the same weapon. The real difference between 5 aps demon r9t3 and 5 aps sage G16 would be closer to 20-25% in favor of demon depending on r9t3 roll.

Yes but if you do choose sage at that piont, I would be fore more defensive measures. Mainly to farm 3-3 w/o a buddy. At this piont it's up to you mate, do you want to farm faster(demon hands down)? Or farm safer(sage covers your *** due to passive protection from spark and chi skills)? Because the gear you have is the end of aps gear.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

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Sakubatou - Sanctuary

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes but if you do choose sage at that piont, I would be fore more defensive measures. Mainly to farm 3-3 w/o a buddy. At this piont it's up to you mate, do you want to farm faster(demon hands down)? Or farm safer(sage covers your *** due to passive protection from spark and chi skills)? Because the gear you have is the end of aps gear.

My response was copy pasted from another thread that the OP necrod. All he asked then was about who does more damage, r9t3 demon or sage both 5 aps. I suggested he make another thread because demon wins the damage race by about 51% in that case but there are so many other things to consider. Especially if you add pvp into the mix. He then changed his question to be 5 aps r9t3 demon or 5 aps G16 sage., and that also changed my answer a bit.

So my answer is a bit off for those reasons.