Rebalancing the game

Chuck_smith - Sanctuary
Chuck_smith - Sanctuary Posts: 305 Arc User
edited September 2013 in General Discussion
I think it would be nice enough to get the game good all over again

Update current consumable items
Apothecary should share different cool downs and not all of them should share the same cool downs. Healing ones should not be for more than 30 seconds.

Remove crab meats and herb yuxiano (apothecary from tokens could also be an alternative too which would be more in demand)

Update current classes
Classes doing the same effects with a different name makes no sense (other than just damage or AOE damage) and of course, remove all of the spark burst skill (clerics do have heaven's wraith for this even though it is weaker than 3 spark), I guess that would mean that bosses' HP should be decreased for a compensation maybe. So the people won't complain (and exaggerate about "I don't want to take 20 mins to kill a boss."

(Skills that classes should stay with)
BMs-Stuns (Obviously), Leaps, Most AOEs
Wizards-High DPH, Teleport, Self chi gain
Archer-High DPH, Bleed, Fire arrow buff
Cleric-Heals, Defense level buff, Sleep
Assassin-Stealth, Movement speed self buff, attack rate buff
Psychic-Reflecting damage, reflecting status
Seeker-Combined physical/magical damage, transfer debuffs
Mystic-Summons, ignored defense attack
Barb-Aggro skills, Attack level debuff
Veno-Debuffs, chi drain

Veno should be able to use whips.

(Just don't make the different classes do the same effects that overwrite each other)


Update current quests

The celestone fragments are pretty useless, and making them into mirages isn't really a good idea either. Maybe a change from fragments into mirages would work or some more quests from celestone fragments... Or just remove them frags from the game?


Update gear

Those old equipment that are long forgotten (basic equips really) should have full magic resistance of all elements

Remove attk/def level from gear (it is more practical that skills should do this, not gear) and change those level shards into increase damage dealt/decrease damage taken.

And so on, taking time to tell the details. I'm too lazy to write up more things.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    How?
    Just how should they be updated or changed?
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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I think it would be nice enough to get the game good all over again

    Update current consumable items

    Update current classes

    Update current quests

    Update current dailies

    And so on, taking time to tell the details.

    With all the money pwe would spend doing that. They could buy and publish a new game. Then proceed to milk the game playerbase's wallets dry. So no wont happen. This is how pwe is. Not like it wouldn't be nice and all.
  • Titoto - Raging Tide
    Titoto - Raging Tide Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »

    BMs-Stuns

    >.> GTFO b:angry
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  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I think it would be nice enough to get the game good all over again

    Update current consumable items
    Apothecary should share different cool downs and not all of them should share the same cool downs. Healing ones should not be for more than 30 seconds.

    No, that wouldn't balance the game. Good luck killing someone that chains Ironguard + Sutra + Dew + Vacuity + Shadow Binder + Pangu +... need i say more?

    Update current classes
    Classes doing the same effects with a different name makes no sense (other than just damage or AOE damage) and of course, remove all of the spark skill (clerics do have heaven's wraith for this even though it is weaker than 3 spark)

    BMs-Stuns
    Wizards-High DPH
    Archer-High DPH
    Cleric-Heals
    Assassin-Stealth
    Psychic-Reflecting damage
    Seeker-Combined physical/magical damage
    Mystic-Summons
    Barb-Aggro skills
    Veno-Debuffs

    Sounds LoL worthy. Whats the point of playing a class JUST to stealth?

    Should rethink what you have instead.
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  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    BMs-Stuns
    Wizards-High DPH
    Archer-High DPH
    Cleric-Heals
    Assassin-Stealth
    Psychic-Reflecting damage
    Seeker-Combined physical/magical damage
    Mystic-Summons
    Barb-Aggro skills
    Veno-Debuffs

    What exactly is this list?
    Archer dph?
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  • Toraah - Archosaur
    Toraah - Archosaur Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    BMs-Stuns
    Wizards-High DPH
    Archer-High DPH
    Cleric-Heals
    Assassin-Stealth
    Psychic-Reflecting damage
    Seeker-Combined physical/magical damage
    Mystic-Summons
    Barb-Aggro skills
    Veno-Debuffs

    This "list" is highly inaccurate. What are you trying to tell us with this?
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  • DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver
    DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ..and of course, remove all of the spark skill (clerics do have heaven's wraith for this even though it is weaker than 3 spark)
    .

    I stopped reading at this point.

    Have you ever heard of a thing called PvP?

    I know you're just trying to help, but you clearly haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about, nor did it make any sense as to what you were even suggesting.
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  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I think it would be nice enough to get the game good all over again

    Update current consumable items
    Apothecary should share different cool downs and not all of them should share the same cool downs. Healing ones should not be for more than 30 seconds.

    Update current classes
    Classes doing the same effects with a different name makes no sense (other than just damage or AOE damage) and of course, remove all of the spark skill (clerics do have heaven's wraith for this even though it is weaker than 3 spark)

    BMs-Stuns
    Wizards-High DPH
    Archer-High DPH
    Cleric-Heals
    Assassin-Stealth
    Psychic-Reflecting damage
    Seeker-Combined physical/magical damage
    Mystic-Summons
    Barb-Aggro skills
    Veno-Debuffs

    Update current quests

    Update current dailies

    And so on, taking time to tell the details.


    Whhaaaaa?......... dude.....you're basically suggesting to strip everything down to nothing and start from scratch. Not the way to go about this. The lower-mid level quests already got updated a year or two ago as well.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Lol, Yulk.
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  • Wickedbrew - Raging Tide
    Wickedbrew - Raging Tide Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Someone has been enjoying too many cocktails during happy hour at Allahu's Snackbar
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  • Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver
    Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    So basically you want to take all skills that are unique for classes?
    You want cleric without heals LOL? Sins without stealth LOOOL...

    Well if nothing else thx for good laugh b:laugh
  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    remove fish, remove earhguard, remove genies, remove r9


    FIXED


    AND remove hypers
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I stopped reading at this point.

    I stopped reading at "by Chuck_smith" and came for the lolsb:chuckle
    Szol - Harshlands wrote: »
    remove fish, remove earhguard, remove genies, remove r9
    FIXED
    AND remove hypers

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  • ZooozOOo - Archosaur
    ZooozOOo - Archosaur Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    simplest solution uninstall plz b:laugh
  • Sevchenko - Dreamweaver
    Sevchenko - Dreamweaver Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Half the sin's skills should be magical damage, to kill barbs and bms or defense ignoring attacks like every MMO else.

    Also, i think maximum aps should be capped at 2.5, its ridiculous that a class is all resumed into auto-attacing >_>

    Also, PVP damage reducition should be 90% instead of 75, two g15/g16/r9r3 same refined persons wont last 20s of fight for their damage is way over their armors can handle.
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  • Lecus - Lost City
    Lecus - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I think to balance this game all gear that is not R9R2+12 can no longer be equipped and if you take your gear off at all it vanishes. Simple solution to the problem at hand.
  • Rjwashere - Dreamweaver
    Rjwashere - Dreamweaver Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I think it would be nice enough to get the game good all over again

    Update current consumable items
    Apothecary should share different cool downs and not all of them should share the same cool downs. Healing ones should not be for more than 30 seconds.

    Update current classes
    Classes doing the same effects with a different name makes no sense (other than just damage or AOE damage) and of course, remove all of the spark skill (clerics do have heaven's wraith for this even though it is weaker than 3 spark)

    BMs-Stuns
    Wizards-High DPH
    Archer-High DPH
    Cleric-Heals
    Assassin-Stealth
    Psychic-Reflecting damage
    Seeker-Combined physical/magical damage
    Mystic-Summons
    Barb-Aggro skills
    Veno-Debuffs

    Update current quests

    Update current dailies

    And so on, taking time to tell the details.

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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Lecus - Lost City wrote: »
    I think to balance this game all gear that is not R9R2+12 can no longer be equipped and if you take your gear off at all it vanishes. Simple solution to the problem at hand.

    A better solution. Cap attack and defence levels at 50 and max stat of (Dex,str and mag) capped at 450. Problem solved, pwi wouldn't have as much of a gear gap between all endgame armors and weps. Also cap aps at 2, it's about time aps is nerfed and get rid of purify.
  • ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Crazybladema - Harshlands wrote: »
    A better solution. Cap attack and defence levels at 50 and max stat of (Dex,str and mag) capped at 450. Problem solved, pwi wouldn't have as much of a gear gap between all endgame armors and weps. Also cap aps at 2, it's about time aps is nerfed and get rid of purify.

    stupid idea
  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    stupid idea
    elaborate
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Crazybladema - Harshlands wrote: »
    elaborate

    it's not a FPS game
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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    it's not a FPS game

    elaborate and educate me. With your apperant vast knowledge of the game good sir.
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    If it was capped like that, then there'd barely be much reason to get gears beyond say, r8, except for the weapon.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The point of MMORPG is to get ahead by using resources (either time or money)

    It should be OK for some to have vastly better gear. People who spend more should be able to have more than people who spend less.

    The problem is, people who have much better gear shouldn't always be competing directly against people with worse gear. Some free for all PK is fine, maybe some PK events should just group people against each other based on Soulforce (and only allow 1 set of gear on to enter instance).

    Balance, on the other hand, is a discussion of a class' performance compared with other classes at an equal footing ie: equal gear, player skill, etc. Don't discuss balance like "this R999 one shot me therefore unbalance" because that just makes you sound confused.
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  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    QQ lvl99 cashopers with full tt99+5b:bye[/QUOTE]


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  • Chuck_smith - Sanctuary
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    TBH I was paying attention more to ingame than the forums, sorry XD

    I wasn't done you noobs... lol
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