Endgame Rings

_Shui - Harshlands

What are good endgame rings for Archer? Im lv 99 and just use R6 & Attendance Ring * Perfect atm.

Bhavyy - Raging Tide

Sky cover recasted with rank 9 recasted ring is the best option and the only real end game option.
As a bare minimum I would say that seal of eternal solitude or lunar phys rings are end game but it's not really end game when better versions exist. Some people prefer the magic res from seal of eternal solitude. I feel that it's useless when it doesn't matter how much mag def you have at end game as an archer since it will never be high enough for you to not get 1 shot by a magic damage class like wizard, seeker psy etc especially if they crit

_Shui - Harshlands

Won't be getting r9 anytime soon. Still to expensive. Sky Cover sounds good. Its kinda odd that even as dex class on 99 I miss a lot of hits in PVP.

Eoria - Harshlands

Don't bother with a Sky Cover until you have decently refined r9rr. 120m+ that can be spent better elsewhere.

Lunar ring is probably the best option until then. They're easily resellable and are like a 3rd of the price of a Sky Cover. Just don't drop them. If you're a real cheapo, can use Misty Forest Ring/Band from Heaven's Jail instead.

_Shui - Harshlands

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Don't bother with a Sky Cover until you have decently refined r9rr. 120m+ that can be spent better elsewhere.

Lunar ring is probably the best option until then. They're easily resellable and are like a 3rd of the price of a Sky Cover. Just don't drop them. If you're a real cheapo, can use Misty Forest Ring/Band from Heaven's Jail instead.

Idk why but anyhow I never liked the Misty Forest Ring -_- so Lunar Ring is what Ill go for now. Shouldn't be to expensive either.

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Lunar rings on sanctuary - 18~28m

Sky cover rings - 40m~80m

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Don't bother with a Sky Cover until you have decently refined r9rr. 120m+ that can be spent better elsewhere.

Lunar ring is probably the best option until then. They're easily resellable and are like a 3rd of the price of a Sky Cover. Just don't drop them. If you're a real cheapo, can use Misty Forest Ring/Band from Heaven's Jail instead.

Bands are actually better for stat dependant builds and only refine for slightly less than the lunar rings. There the acc and mag resist parts but sometime you can live w/o.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

speaking of skycovers, you might be able to get a nice deal when someone with a +10/2 ring switches to recast version

Eoria - Harshlands

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lunar rings on sanctuary - 18~28m

Sky cover rings - 40m~80m

He's on HL. Sky Covers go for 120m+ unrefined while you can get a Lunar ring for 40m easy.

_Shui - Harshlands

I dont have 40-45m for lunar ring -___- so I got Misty Forest Ring+4 as ultimate endgame ring -.-

Also tokens 23k w t f ?!

Xainou - Sanctuary

Your endgame will look very poor then unless prices for rank/g16 on HL are like waaaaay cheaper than Sanc. lol

_Shui - Harshlands

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Your endgame will look very poor then unless prices for rank/g16 on HL are like waaaaay cheaper than Sanc. lol

http://pwcalc.com/2b5a4cf11ce6306d + g16 x bow (4 aps with windshield. Im sage)

Imo this build is best PVP+PVE solution I found for archer if you dont want to sell your car for r9.


I just got to 100 yesterday so im using r8 +4 bow atm.

Eoria - Harshlands

Claws on archer is outdated.

_Shui - Harshlands

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Claws on archer is outdated.

And it still works. perma spark is perma spark. Even using bow the dps is still better than full g16.

MasterPerian - Lost City

you are extremely far from getting any kind of end game gear. saying from your pwi calc set up.

Eoria - Harshlands

_Shui - Harshlands wrote: »

And it still works. perma spark is perma spark. Even using bow the dps is still better than full g16.

Do this: http://www.pwcalc.com/1b35ef24e32791a1

_Shui - Harshlands

MasterPerian - Lost City wrote: »

you are extremely far from getting any kind of end game gear. saying from your pwi calc set up.

The pwi calc is not my current gear. I turned 100 yesterday. Its the gear Im aiming for atm but with better refines.

_Shui - Harshlands

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Do this: http://www.pwcalc.com/1b35ef24e32791a1

No -int and worse dps for pve: 90 akt lvls with bow and 0.64 int vs my build 75 atk levels with crossbow at 0.87

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

And this, kids, is why being on a pvp server doesn't mean you're automatically better. Eoria's build, with level 10 Bow Mastery (she didn't add it lel) has 5439.38 dps, yours has 5406.45 dps (assuming -0.05 int on the crossbow), lower crit, 2K less mdef, 17 less def levels, over 1K less HP, i.e. a oneshot to anyone and anything.

-int on PVP gear: the only -int you would have is -int on R9, on weapon, and on cape if the rest of your gear is R9. You're on a pvp server so I don't expect that you'd be a pure pve'er. Besides, if you wanted interval so much, you should have gone demon. Oh yea, 46% autoattack dps boost from demon qs as opposed to 16% dps boost from sage, lol. Sage is going to be for the elemental skills, anyways, for which you don't exactly need -int.

-int on PVE gear: Just put on your claws if you're hitting 1 target? Claws are viable. Very viable. Gear share with a BM

This is pretty much the least that can be called "endgame:"
http://www.pwcalc.com/a973d2bafed21c5c

In terms of rings, Lunar at least. R8 sucks because it doesn't refine. R9 recast + recast sky cover is apparently too expensive. 97 Mold ring has crappy stats when compared to Lunar. It IIS endgame we're talking about, after all. Lunar also has the benefit of +ACC, which you will need, because stunning arrow misses a lot on sins, it seems, and the +250 M.Res is awesome.

for your claws, well, you will want +str ring(s). Either Band from Heaven's Jail or OHT ring with a load of +str adds. I would actually not recommend getting G16 claws unless you share with a BM because you don't need that extra aggro. Your crits will draw aggro right off of a less refined sin/BM/barb, and you don't have BP to tank with.

Claw build: http://www.pwcalc.com/e13479ec9d9a532c 5 aps windshield or you can add 6 more STR and wear TT99 HA neck for 5aps base. Windshield overwrites sage spark anyways so your sage spark reduction advantage is p. much nil lol; ofc there's also BB.

If you decide to switch to Demon you can drop TT99 LA boots for G16

Eoria - Harshlands

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is pretty much the least that can be called "endgame:"
http://www.pwcalc.com/a973d2bafed21c5c

...why would you shard g16 Nirvana armor with cit gems? Especially when none of it is +10. b:surrender

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

...why would you shard g16 Nirvana armor with cit gems? Especially when none of it is +10. b:surrender

cuz he ain't going R9, ever, and +7 is ~12mil with bad luck with stones b:surrender changing them to G10 FB99 shards could work too. http://www.pwcalc.com/0ac0e9f5b22194b4 w/e he can afford. It'll probably be full flawless citrine tho lol

Eoria - Harshlands

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

cuz he ain't going R9, ever, and +7 is ~12mil with bad luck with stones b:surrender changing them to G10 FB99 shards could work too. http://www.pwcalc.com/0ac0e9f5b22194b4 w/e he can afford. It'll probably be full flawless citrine tho lol

Cit gems are like 30m-ish here. Maybe a bit more. @>@ I definitely wouldn't waste that sort of money on g16 Nirv armor beyond hat/cape and even then...

_Shui - Harshlands

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And this, kids, is why being on a pvp server doesn't mean you're automatically better. Eoria's build, with level 10 Bow Mastery (she didn't add it lel) has 5439.38 dps, yours has 5406.45 dps (assuming -0.05 int on the crossbow), lower crit, 2K less mdef, 17 less def levels, over 1K less HP, i.e. a oneshot to anyone and anything.

-int on PVP gear: the only -int you would have is -int on R9, on weapon, and on cape if the rest of your gear is R9. You're on a pvp server so I don't expect that you'd be a pure pve'er. Besides, if you wanted interval so much, you should have gone demon. Oh yea, 46% autoattack dps boost from demon qs as opposed to 16% dps boost from sage, lol. Sage is going to be for the elemental skills, anyways, for which you don't exactly need -int.

-int on PVE gear: Just put on your claws if you're hitting 1 target? Claws are viable. Very viable. Gear share with a BM

This is pretty much the least that can be called "endgame:"
http://www.pwcalc.com/a973d2bafed21c5c

In terms of rings, Lunar at least. R8 sucks because it doesn't refine. R9 recast + recast sky cover is apparently too expensive. 97 Mold ring has crappy stats when compared to Lunar. It IIS endgame we're talking about, after all. Lunar also has the benefit of +ACC, which you will need, because stunning arrow misses a lot on sins, it seems, and the +250 M.Res is awesome.

for your claws, well, you will want +str ring(s). Either Band from Heaven's Jail or OHT ring with a load of +str adds. I would actually not recommend getting G16 claws unless you share with a BM because you don't need that extra aggro. Your crits will draw aggro right off of a less refined sin/BM/barb, and you don't have BP to tank with.

Claw build: http://www.pwcalc.com/e13479ec9d9a532c 5 aps windshield or you can add 6 more STR and wear TT99 HA neck for 5aps base. Windshield overwrites sage spark anyways so your sage spark reduction advantage is p. much nil lol; ofc there's also BB.

If you decide to switch to Demon you can drop TT99 LA boots for G16

I already got bow mastery lvl 11 and Im talking about crossbow on 0.84 which still has way more dmg than bow on same refnes. Its just a difference of 15 atk levlels vs my perma spark and ill be using claws on bosses anyway. Soloing harpy wraith has been 1 of my dreams since I started pwi.

Full g16 is plain mainstream and evrry1 has it. it might be good for pvp but it sucks dps wise cuz it doesnt has any -int.

The claw build has tt99 gold. Those have **** base stats and dont refine good so I replaced those with g15(+5 atk lvl bonus) and 2 pieces of g16 for the hp bonus by just sacrifieing 0.05 int. So I only lose 1k m def and p def at all compared to full g16 but I can perma spark and still have easy 7k HP+ Pvp my crossbow on 0.84 will still deal great dmg with 75 atk levels.

Imo my build is a good compromise of both and is good for PVP + PVE.

Eoria - Harshlands

_Shui - Harshlands wrote: »

Soloing harpy wraith has been 1 of my dreams since I started pwi.

Harpy is going to one-shot you in that gear.