Tomes

luckycut
luckycut Posts: 46 Arc User
edited September 2013 in Suggestion Box
In my Years of playing pwi Tomes is almost a forgotten item the 2 choices used to be pangu creator an love up love down. The difference between the 2 was small which kept the tomes as either or an you were fine. The Sirens of War brought in a total disadvantage to the farmed pangu creator tome which can not be made into anything else to an distinct advantage to the tomes obtained by chance mainly love up love down which can be made into a dominance or emperor tome this clearly gives an unfair advantage to players who don't have the luck of winning a scroll of tome. Scroll of Tome is Not offered as a boutique item nor is pangu creator able too be made into anything better. This imbalance has effected the game tremendously.
Of course the pwi team of people have zero plans in fixing this. They have a number of options to choose from in fixing this imbalance.
1) Making the scroll of tome a boutique item.
2) Letting pangu creator tome become upgrade able to something comparable to dominance an emperor tomes.

These are 2 choices for the pwi team to fix this imbalance tomes
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    You can fix this yourself:

    "WTS Pan gu tome 250m"
    ...
    ....
    .....
    "WTB Love up and down 500m"
    ....
    ......
    .......

    And Solved !

    Other than that what can i say ? Yes, people with LuaD have an advatage over people with pan gu. People with R9 have an advantage over r8.....
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »
    You can fix this yourself:

    "WTS Pan gu tome 250m"
    ...
    ....
    .....
    "WTB Love up and down 500m"
    ....
    ......
    .......

    And Solved !

    Other than that what can i say ? Yes, people with LuaD have an advatage over people with pan gu. People with R9 have an advantage over r8.....

    More or less this. Nothing is stopping a player from farming up the coins to purchase their own Love: Up and Down tome. While I can see your point of view on that issue, the same can be said for things like Wings of Cloud Charger not being able to be upgraded while Matchless Wings, a completely chance-only item, can be upgraded to either the Heaven Ravager or the Wings of Ascension, as well as saying that R8 gear can't be upgraded to R9, when R9 can be upgraded to R9r and R9r2.

    It's worse in the wing's case, because all of those are bound upon being equipped. If you have a Pan Gu tome, nothing is stopping you from selling it and using that coin, along with coin you've saved up through farming, to buy a L:UaD tome. That's how gear progression works.

    Also moved to suggestions, as this isn't really a tech support topic.
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  • Wickedbrew - Raging Tide
    Wickedbrew - Raging Tide Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    luckycut wrote: »
    In my Years of playing pwi Tomes is almost a forgotten item the 2 choices used to be pangu creator an love up love down. The difference between the 2 was small which kept the tomes as either or an you were fine. The Sirens of War brought in a total disadvantage to the farmed pangu creator tome which can not be made into anything else to an distinct advantage to the tomes obtained by chance mainly love up love down which can be made into a dominance or emperor tome this clearly gives an unfair advantage to players who don't have the luck of winning a scroll of tome. Scroll of Tome is Not offered as a boutique item nor is pangu creator able too be made into anything better. This imbalance has effected the game tremendously.
    Of course the pwi team of people have zero plans in fixing this. They have a number of options to choose from in fixing this imbalance.
    1) Making the scroll of tome a boutique item.
    2) Letting pangu creator tome become upgrade able to something comparable to dominance an emperor tomes.

    These are 2 choices for the pwi team to fix this imbalance tomes

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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    luckycut wrote: »
    Scroll of Tome is Not offered as a boutique item nor is pangu creator able too be made into anything better. This imbalance has effected the game tremendously.

    If you think that you are either an ignorant or a r9rr+12 josd NW toon that thinks that the reason he gets owned is the missing tome and not his 0 knowledge about the game. gg
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  • luckycut
    luckycut Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    this post was an is about tome imbalance not whether he or she can play ones toon or not please keep to the subject at hand
  • coopoor
    coopoor Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    sadly the person who gave prices is very wrong about them loveup love down is closer too 800 mill an pan gu creator is about 150-200 mill. This really isn't a bad idea i kinda like both suggestions it would lvl the playing field in the tome department of the game. The biggest problem is with the scroll of tome is once someone gets one is they are keeping it for themselves or selling at an insanely high price. i honestly don't see the market for tomes getting any better . This i think is an unforeseen mistake by pwi. Hopefully the game will address this tome issue with next game upgrade
  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    coopoor wrote: »
    sadly the person who gave prices is very wrong about them loveup love down is closer too 800 mill an pan gu creator is about 150-200

    150m for pangu? lol
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    ive seen a pan gu going for as low as 100m now a days lol I only had 87m on me and the bank was emptyb:cry
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    wow send some to our servers please.

    Cuz really it will be hard to get one for 250m nowadays. (used to be 215 until some weeks ago when the token price started to go up, pan gu went up with the tokens)
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    luckycut wrote: »
    this post was an is about tome imbalance not whether he or she can play ones toon or not please keep to the subject at hand

    ok, let me rephrase. tome imbalance is like a 10 vs 20 while you have a gear imbalance of 50 vs 10000000000
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  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    It's only an imbalance when someone can't afford or can't get something the easy way. Like I said on your other post about the same thing. 2 people with differant stats on a weapon is also an imbalance, should they put stats in the boutique too? Someones s3 daggers are not as good as the others s3 daggers, should they sell better stats for that in the boutique. That's concidered an imbalance also. Only when someone wants something they can't have. I told you I hope they put the level 7 tomes in the boutique for 500 gold. it would be cheaper to spend the gold on packs, then buy the tome. Good luck with that.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Last time I checked there was no way to make a Pan Gu tome without Mysterious Tome Pages which come from the boutique (either directly or through tokens). Those pages are the majority of the cost too.

    Both Pan Gu and LUaD are boutique items. One is just cheaper than the other. You get what you pay for.
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  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Last time I checked there was no way to make a Pan Gu tome without Mysterious Tome Pages which come from the boutique (either directly or through tokens). Those pages are the majority of the cost too.

    Both Pan Gu and LUaD are boutique items. One is just cheaper than the other. You get what you pay for.

    I agree. I mean you can get pages as drops, or I believe from running the cube, but still, you don't make nearly enough. So you still have to buy pages. Or buy 3 SOF for make it. Which will run you about 80-90m each. I hope they sell it for 500 gold in the boutique or you have to use 3 level 6 tomes to make one. Just so people stop qq'ing about an upgraded pangu.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I agree. I mean you can get pages as drops, or I believe from running the cube, but still, you don't make nearly enough. So you still have to buy pages. Or buy 3 SOF for make it. Which will run you about 80-90m each. I hope they sell it for 500 gold in the boutique or you have to use 3 level 6 tomes to make one. Just so people stop qq'ing about an upgraded pangu.

    um no, you want mystical tome pages (not old book/of fate): http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/18185

    so yeah, tomes are boutique-only.
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  • Kablaab - Dreamweaver
    Kablaab - Dreamweaver Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    luckycut wrote: »
    1) Making the scroll of tome a boutique item.
    2) Letting pangu creator tome become upgrade able to something comparable to dominance an emperor tomes.

    These are 2 choices for the pwi team to fix this imbalance tomes

    or option 3, since Pan Gu and other level 6 tomes are capable of being crafted with Scripts of Fate, as well as farmable - make an option to upgrade level 6 tome to level 7. That would be the most logical progression. 3 scripts of fate run about the same cost (or used to any rate) as a Scroll of Tome.. The problem with "WTB Scroll of Tome/Love Up and Down" is a supply issue. If there aren't (m)any on the server - not much a chance to get one. In all likelihood, PWI wont present this option because the more they give out ways to farm stuff, the less incentive farmers and merchants have to spend money on packs in order to chance those items (DoT/DoD, Vit Stones, Scroll of Tome, etc.)

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