Meridian Info

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Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Dungeons & Tactics
I did some digging into the meridian system to figure out how hard the later meridians are.

There are 80 meridians total (4 circles).

I put the number of living gates as well as how many consecutive life gates you need on the wiki here:
http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Meridian

It also shows what HP you get at each meridian, what the max stats are, and a calculated average number of attempts you need at each meridian.

I got the data from a simulation I ran on my test server: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_rI39Wzz6o

On average you need 2,453 pills to finish so at 7 pills a day you can finish in under a year without touching the boutique.
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  • Flare - Heavens Tear
    Flare - Heavens Tear Posts: 331 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    I just passed dark and at GV3...omg the rates look horrible going on...b:cry
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  • Flare - Heavens Tear
    Flare - Heavens Tear Posts: 331 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Thanks for the info. Now I know what I will be up against.b:shocked
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Cool, thanks for posting that simulation vid & wiki data Asterelle....b:victoryb:thanksb:victory
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Thanks for the info f:victory
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Nice info, i`m almost halfway done in 3rd circle, it`s insanely hard now, I imagine when you are halfway, the hp will be doubled again or at least it should be, otherwise only 368 hp is rather low considering I managed to get somewhat far. Edit: it`s not *sad panda face*
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Neat, was wondering how everything worked out. Man.. if you only use the 7 free tries a day, it'd take you a year on average to get to the end lol. *sigh*
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  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    ...
    On average you need 2,453 pills to finish so at 7 pills a day you can finish in under a year without touching the boutique.

    If I do my bh69/79 once per 7 or even more days then I can(?) finish meridian circles in more than 7 years (less than 7 pills once per week).

    5th life gate already passed, total used (in average) 17 pills.
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    I did some digging into the meridian system to figure out how hard the later meridians are.

    There are 80 meridians total (4 circles).

    I put the number of living gates as well as how many consecutive life gates you need on the wiki here:
    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Meridian

    It also shows what HP you get at each meridian, what the max stats are, and a calculated average number of attempts you need at each meridian.

    I got the data from a simulation I ran on my test server: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_rI39Wzz6o

    On average you need 2,453 pills to finish so at 7 pills a day you can finish in under a year without touching the boutique.

    Nice job as always Asterelle. b:victory
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    thanks Asterelle b:victory
  • Ssaassaa - Lost City
    Ssaassaa - Lost City Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Thanks Asterelle,

    Question.

    Have you a clue what changes/new things in pwcn is coming (and then later to us) ?
  • Griev - Dreamweaver
    Griev - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Thanks for this b:pleased
  • LodeJunior - Archosaur
    LodeJunior - Archosaur Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    As far as I know of, there are level restrictions on opening gates as well. If you are at a certain level, you are not allowed to open past that number of gates. I am not sure if at lvl 100 you are allowed to open all gates or you need level 101 to do so.
  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    As far as I know of, there are level restrictions on opening gates as well. If you are at a certain level, you are not allowed to open past that number of gates. I am not sure if at lvl 100 you are allowed to open all gates or you need level 101 to do so.

    Here is example (each new life gate has +2 level restriction).
    First Sphere

    There are level limits on some of the spheres. It seems almost certain that spheres after the second in the Conception and Governing Vessels each require two successive levels higher; eg Lv 44 for the third, and 46 for the fourth.

    CV 1 - no level requirements
    CV 2 - level 42
    CV 5 - level 44
    CV 6 - level 46
    CV 14 - level 48
    CV 17 - level 50
    CV 18 - level 52
    CV 21 - level 54
    CV 22 - level 56
    GV 1 - level 58
    GV 2- level 60
    GV 3 - level 62
    GV 4 - level 64
    GV 9 - level 66
    GV 10 - level 68
    GV 11 - level 70

    Some terms are from PWI - Meridian System Preview!
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    If I do my bh69/79 once per 7 or even more days then I can(?) finish meridian circles in more than 7 years (less than 7 pills once per week).

    5th life gate already passed, total used (in average) 17 pills.


    Schoolteacher daily: 3 mystical pills/day
    Yee Yoon daily: 2 holy and 2 mystical pills/day

    Yee Yoon takes maybe 5 minutes to finish; Schoolteacher can run while you're doing BH or grinding or whatever.
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  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Schoolteacher daily: 3 mystical pills/day
    Yee Yoon daily: 2 holy and 2 mystical pills/day

    Yee Yoon takes maybe 5 minutes to finish; Schoolteacher can run while you're doing BH or grinding or whatever.

    Thank you for information.

    I will use it.
  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    I haven't purchased any meridian **** yet and I'm almost finished with Dark. I'll just keep doing my daily school teacher. And every day, I do my world quest, which 2 npc's no matter which world quest path you get, are right behind the daily meridian npc. I run that quick 2 minute quest every time. Might as well since I'm already there. I'll take my time. it's not a significant upgrade to my stats that I need to rush.
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  • Selak - Dreamweaver
    Selak - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Schoolteacher daily: 3 mystical pills/day
    Yee Yoon daily: 2 holy and 2 mystical pills/day

    Yee Yoon takes maybe 5 minutes to finish; Schoolteacher can run while you're doing BH or grinding or whatever.

    I also get mystical pill/pills (tired so not sure about how many) from doing one daily in moria as well.

    Currently on Dark circle GV20 by just doing dailies to get pills.
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  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Where does everyone get "flame" "dark" from? Mine said vitality refinement and divinity refinement... nothing about flame.
  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Where does everyone get "flame" "dark" from? Mine said vitality refinement and divinity refinement... nothing about flame.

    Did you look at the link?
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    It's one mystical pill from Morai timed daily, and 1 each for BH1 and 2 (for 100+ BHs the pills are tradeable, all other quest reward pills are untradeable.) But Toliman can't get in Morai yet, and seems to know of the BH pills, so I didn't mention those.
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  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Great Work! b:victory
  • Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 879 Arc User
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    It's one mystical pill from Morai timed daily, and 1 each for BH1 and 2 (for 100+ BHs the pills are tradeable, all other quest reward pills are untradeable.) But Toliman can't get in Morai yet, and seems to know of the BH pills, so I didn't mention those.

    Really? From timed dailies? I do mine every single day, and have never gotten anything from the dailies. Which npc gives it to you? Crazy stones, Emissary, or the other one? I've completed all 3 places in morai and maxed them to 5000. I only do it for the exp, and to get my exp things from the npc.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    The advanced supply NPC gives the timed daily and the mystical pill.

    At least, the one in Luminance does; I finished the other two before Meridian started, so can't vouch for the Shroud and Corona NPCs.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    The advanced supply NPC gives the timed daily and the mystical pill.

    At least, the one in Luminance does; I finished the other two before Meridian started, so can't vouch for the Shroud and Corona NPCs.

    confirmed on Corona: timed daily gives pill, the other dont.
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Pills = Teacher, BH I and II (BH pills are tradable so are those from weekly Seat,Abba if you choose as quest rewards from emblems), Morai timed quest and the daily @ The Village of the Dreaming Cloud, tis all in case smb still doesn`t know.
  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Did you look at the link?

    Yes, I can see what Asterelle wrote. I'm asking where it says that ingame.
  • vendorshopper01
    vendorshopper01 Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Yes, I can see what Asterelle wrote. I'm asking where it says that ingame.

    Have you finished the first CV's with the pills? Once part 1 is completed, your next part is to click the middle, it will say flame and such and you start working on that part. Once thats complete you start on the next CV session, when thats done you click the middle again, it will say Frost and on and on till it's complete.
  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    That's what I'm saying, my center circle didn't say Flame, it said Vitality Refinement. And "Dark" said Divinity Refinement. I'm just wondering where everyone is seeing the word Flame because I didn't see it anywhere.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    Are you using the English client?
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  • RankNine - Momaganon
    RankNine - Momaganon Posts: 1,241 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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    using it too and cant read the font at all :P
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