Psychic buffs Soul of silence Vengance / Accuracy,Evasion and Skills

geemarkarcher#4378

hi Pwi , i have some questions about some stuff lately in the game. me my friends and faction members been trying to get to a gm , because of the class psychic and their psybuff both silence and vengeance. alot of people find it unfair that people get to use psy buffs in TW/PK because for every hit we do , we get silenced and we get like no chance to fight. the genie skill willsurge / or AD , IG and other immunity pots , they do break the silence , but the thing is is that we need to waste all our protection , just to get trough a silence buff that triggers over and over. players get no chance at all because they waste there protection to try and win from people.


My Question is , are psy buffs possible to get selfcast, so that the psychic can use it themselves only? because then the game would get a lil better balance. My second question is ; Archers and other classes that have Accuracy /Evasion , are broken . we miss so much on casters while we have 12k accuracy . Im an archer in the game and i use my skill :Blessing of the Condor which gives 40k evasion but it doesnt work properly like it it suppose to be , the skill is litterly broken. When i use it people hit me for 100% trough my skill. Its really unfair , most of our skills are glitched or dont work .and as my last Question : arcane classes there hits hit for 100% , magic hits dont miss , and the thing i dont get is why archers would get to memiss there magic attacks? not once , but it misses really often, its really unfair because we already get half damage reduced ,upon close distance , and our magic attacks just miss. why can casters /seekers not miss , and an archer does which isnt fair? Archer leaps have a 35 seconds cooldown and other classes have only like 10 seconds or less. sage/demon StormRage Eagelon uses 2 spark but it doesnt hit like it suppose to be . after the update that changed skill cds their effect isnt even usefull for pk , attack& def lvls doesnt work with stormrage . arrow inferno can atleast be 30 chi , instead of 1 spark because it only lasts 30 seconds and its like most our skills cost sparks , i hope in away it maybe could of get fixed. Zerk Crit , purify spell ; i find that the zerk crit and purify spell is way to OP , classes with zerkcrits , zerk so much and over and over and people dont get a chance to fight back. Purify spell has like the same proceed rate as zerk crit , and goes so much often which i find that the proceed rate has to be reduced , both zerk and purify goes off so much , and zerk it is way to OP damage. Purge ; purge goes off but its like 1 purge in 100 shots , it barely goes off like zerk or purify does. zerkcrit/purifyspell/purge needs to be removed so the game gets a better balance, and then it actually gets to skill to kill.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

the amount of fail in this post is too damn high.

see OP, that's what happens when you plvl, you QQ that your magic attack misses on top of doing half dmg in close range

geemarkarcher#4378

you make no sense with that answer lol

Desdi - Sanctuary

Please use paragraphs, it's too hard to read.
If it's a question it shouldn't be in the Quality Corner.

DarkEvion - Harshlands

*Not sure if troll, or complete fail player*

geemarkarcher#4378

its just a true fact , if you played long enough.

DarkEvion - Harshlands

sure here's a serious answer.


My Question is , are psy buffs possible to get selfcast, so that the psychic can use it

themselves only?

What does this even mean? Pys' can already self buff, psy buff and most of their skills are based on their Soul Force, if they're not well refined / r9 third cast, they're not going to do as well as you think.


because then the game would get a lil better balance. My second

question is ; Archers and other classes that have Accuracy /Evasion , are broken . we

miss so much on casters while we have 12k accuracy . Im an archer in the game and i

use my skill :Blessing of the Condor which gives 40k evasion but it doesnt work properly

like it it suppose to be , the skill is litterly broken. When i use it people hit me for 100%

trough my skill. Its really unfair , most of our skills are glitched or dont work .and as my

[CThis skill works perfectly fine, I've seen archers use it against me all the time

last Question : arcane classes there hits hit for 100% , magic hits dont miss , and the

thing i dont get is why archers would get to memiss there magic attacks? not once , but it

misses really often, its really unfair because we already get half damage reduced ,upon

close distance , and our magic attacks just miss. why can casters /seekers not miss , and

an archer does which isnt fair?

This is even more obvious, casting time, most P attacks have little to no casting time, that's the reason that magic attacks are 100%[


Archer leaps have a 35 seconds cooldown and other

classes have only like 10 seconds or less. sage/demon StormRage Eagelon uses 2 spark

but it doesnt hit like it suppose to be . after the update that changed skill cds their effect

isnt even usefull for pk , attack& def lvls doesnt work with stormrage . arrow inferno can

atleast be 30 chi , instead of 1 spark because it only lasts 30 seconds and its like most our

skills cost sparks , i hope in away it maybe could of get fixed. Zerk Crit , purify spell ; i find

that the zerk crit and purify spell is way to OP , classes with zerkcrits , zerk so much and

over and over and people dont get a chance to fight back. Purify spell has like the same

proceed rate as zerk crit , and goes so much often which i find that the proceed rate has

to be reduced , both zerk and purify goes off so much , and zerk it is way to OP damage.

Purge ; purge goes off but its like 1 purge in 100 shots , it barely goes off like zerk or

purify does. zerkcrit/purifyspell/purge needs to be removed so the game gets a better

balance, and then it actually gets to skill to kill.

You're joking right? Archer's have the strongest hitting weapon in game, and have purify on their bow, without zerk crit or purify, you have unkillable people like barbs, and it's part of the game, it's part of the fun to pvp, Get over your bad self and learn how to PVP correctly and I'm pretty sure I've played long enough.

Kiszmet - Heavens Tear

raynian wrote: »

hi Pwi , i have some questions about some stuff lately in the game. me my friends and faction members been trying to get to a gm , because of the class psychic and their psybuff both silence...


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... it barely goes off like zerk or purify does. zerkcrit/purifyspell/purge needs to be removed so the game gets a better balance, and then it actually gets to skill to kill.

Reading this gave me a headache. This should be put on a poster and hung up to encourage kids to stay in school.

All I'm seeing here is the classic boost me nerf them argument, followed by QQ R9 weapons are OP. Seriously, that's your entire post in one sentence.

First of all, there is nothing wrong with psychics and archers who know how to play their class . in fact they are currently the two most overpowered classes in PvP.

Second of all, R9 is SUPPOSED to be broken, how else are they going to get people with too much money and not enough common sense to shell out thousands of dollars to play god in a video game? It's been PWE's business model for years.

The GMs are not the people to go to for balance issues. Even if they cared, there is nothing they can do about it. The developers in China are the ones who can do something and they have proven time and again that they DON'T care. If they can't sell it, it doesn't get implemented. Even the new barb and veno forms had to have a cash shop option, and they were incomplete on release. Pets? New CS battle pets that are arguably better than the previous ones. See a pattern? And that's just for barbs/venos. Why else do you think they wanted you to use FF/FC to powerlevel? "I'm 100! I can buy R9 now and be oober L33tz!"

This game has been broken for years. The community has argued for years to fix it but in large part it has fallen on deaf ears. Those GMs and CM's that stick up for the player base get fired or PWE makes things so hard for them they quit. If it hasn't changed after four years its not going to. Only thing I can say is enjoy the game for what it is or move on. Hope for better things may still exist but it lies surrounded by an ever expanding void of ignorance and impatience. Thank you FF/FC, or whatever you want to call it. Where would Perfect World be without all these power leveled noobs? b:thanks

Selak - Dreamweaver

Psychics SoV and SoS can only be cast on one person till there ten minute cooldowns are finished. it cannot be recast before the cooldown is finished or on more than one person at once. Also my current proc rate is 9.99% for SoS at 103 it certainly does not proc 100%.

opkossy

Reading this hurt my head but it doesn't belong in Quality Corner anyway.

Moved to General Discussion.

Azura - Lost City

The only valid point I managed to grasp in that wall text is that archer's magic skills shouldn't miss. [The op says seeker's magic dealing skills don't miss, I don't know if this is true, but if it's true I agree that then archer's magic dealing skills shouldn't miss either].

Zsw - Dreamweaver

I think the archer is trying to say that:

1. Psychic Buffs, Sov and Sos should be self buffs only.
2. Archers should not be missing on arcane classes.
3. Blessing of Condor should be more effective.
4. Archer magic attack should not miss
5. Archer leap cooldown should be reduced
6. Stormrage Eagelon should be more useful, and does all the damage at once, as opposed to over time
7. Arrow inferno should be reduced to 30 Chi.
8. Zerks are too OP
9. Purify spell is too op
10. Purge does not proc enough
11. All existing r9 weapon procs should be removed

So my replies are:

1. I agree. On a psychic they're fine, but put a full +12 psy buff on a full +12 pure tank barb and you're gonna have a hard time. Only way is to overwhelm them with massive number of people.

2. It doesn't make sense to miss I agree, but it's the way the game works. Since casters do not have 0 evasion, you have a 99.99% chance (not actual numbers) to hit, so eventually you'll get that 0.01% and miss.

3. Yeah, evasion is useless

4. Archers are an older class. The developer's changed I believe, which may explain why archers miss and seekers don't.

5. The only other class that have short cooldown on leaps is bms. But bms are melee. Since archers are ranged, I'd say its fine the way they are.

6. Yeah, it's a useless skill.

7. Debatable. 1v1 the chi you need to conserve. But it's an aoe, which if used in tw, can have pretty drastic effects.

8. Not really. Without zerks, the classes that have them won't do enough damage to kill anyone end game with full r9rr +12 and josd. And you actually have to know your class to survive long enough to pull off a zerk crit. 10% chance for dex classes, even less for non-dex classes.

9. Purify spell is op. It's a free "get out of jail free card'

10. Well, that's why you have venomancers. If it proced too much, then venos will be out of a job!

11. Debatable

Asone - Raging Tide

Stopped reading after the "hi PWi". b:surrender

Knownase - Heavens Tear

They aren't going to fix psy buffs to be a self buff only, and here's the only reason why....

Its another moneymaker, players will spend cash to +12 psy weapons for high soulforce, its a win-win for the customer and the company.

Eoria - Harshlands

tbh, psy buffs (SoV/SoS) really should be self-buff only.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

If they are going to fix something about the weapon procs they need to make blackhole have a chance to purge on all attacks.

Of the 19 archer attacks only 6 of them have any chance at all to purge. On the flip side all 19 have a chance to trigger Purify spell (i love spending a spark to purify my target).

I believe god of frenzy has a chance to proc with every attack on all the zerk classes. Even seeker magic attacks can zerk crit.

Why is spirit blackhole the only one that's half broken? Not only this but it has the least utility in PVE.

Attacks with ~ 6% chance to proc Spirit Blackhole
normal attack
take aim
quickshot
lightning strike
lightning blast
barrage

Attacks with 0% chance to proc Spirit Blackhole
frost arrow
vicious arrow
knockback arrow
thundershock
aim low
winged pledge
wingspan
serrated arrow
stunning arrow
sharptooth arrow
bloodvow
arrow inferno
whisper shot

Xuela - Heavens Tear

Need skill to kill?
Lolol You and your r9s3 gear cant kill enough EVENLY geared ppl? I dont know Ray, but if you think evenly geared ppl are OP, then where did your skills go? You have an r9s3 bow yourself which can purge, why the *** would that be less op?! I'd rather purge the *** out of everyone then run faster with purify when someone hits me -____-. Besides you're not a veno.

If one should complain its because of the Archer stealth and their ability to still be able to use sin pots. Archers can use pots to detect sins in stealth, but sins CANT use pots to see archers.
You're an archer, you can purge, you can stealth AND you can use sin pots. And yet you dare to complain and call other shiit OP...

Just go away with your little complaints.


b:bye


*Edit*

raynian wrote: »

me my friends and faction members been trying to get to a gm , because of the class psychic and their psybuff both silence and vengeance. alot of people find it unfair that people get to use psy buffs in TW/PK because for every hit we do , we get silenced and we get like no chance to fight.

Wow wow.. Wait.. You are saying that.. GD, like really, GD, the faction with members who almost all have a psy buffer, COMPLAIN about psy buffs?
Dont believe that ._.

ObviousAlt - Raging Tide

DarkEvion - Harshlands wrote: »

You're joking right? Archer's have the strongest hitting weapon in game, and have purify on their bow, without zerk crit or purify, you have unkillable people like barbs, and it's part of the game, it's part of the fun to pvp, Get over your bad self and learn how to PVP correctly and I'm pretty sure I've played long enough.

its Purge on the bow not purify.. and its not the hardest hitting weapon..
i have yet to see an endgame archer 1 shot another class in endgame gears..

Raynian - Heavens Tear

what i mean is ; in TW/NW/PK people use a buff that doesnt even belong to their class and is very OP. it lasts 10 minutes yea but after it runs out they can cast it back.

At first im not powerleveled , i know what im talking about. all i do is litterly pk since im 105 theres nothing else to do. I did phoenix valley 16 runs a day to lvl myself to 105. i just putted this post on because serveral players on my server have the same problem. Archers are not OP. they have a r9 stage 3 set , and still get hit for 15k? Zerk crit/purify/purge make the game too OP.

if somthing doesnt change after 4 years , its time that it should change. its always worth a try to give ideas and whoever finds it stupid , are the people that didnt play long enough , or actually fought the high geared people in this game

Most the people dont mention it or dont see it because they have zerk/purify and dont watch it from a diffrent side. Archers ofc its OP , but what im trying to say is alot of skills are broken and dont even work properly like they suppose to be

Raynian - Heavens Tear

you know what im talking about , but not many people can see it that way

Zsw - Dreamweaver

Archers are probably the worst class in 1v1. Mass pk is where they shine.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Raynian - Heavens Tear wrote: »

what i mean is ; in TW/NW/PK people use a buff that doesnt even belong to their class and is very OP. it lasts 10 minutes yea but after it runs out they can cast it back.

Psy buffs are OP if the weapon is heavily invested with refines, and in most cases, its +12. If you saying that its wrong using a buff that doesn't belong to their class, then say goodbye to every buff out there except self buffs, Bramble in NW would be a popular example of this.

Back to +12, money was spent, and it gives an advantage, if it makes PWE money, they will not change it. That's pretty much how F2P games are.

Xuela - Heavens Tear

Raynian - Heavens Tear wrote: »

what i mean is ; in TW/NW/PK people use a buff that doesnt even belong to their class and is very OP. it lasts 10 minutes yea but after it runs out they can cast it back.

-_- If thats your opinion, why do I see you out PKing with psy buffs a lot ?

Raynian - Heavens Tear

other classes their buffs , barb ,cleric,bm buffs are defensive buffs ,they dont cause to get silenced every single second you try to attack . we waste willsurge/apoth just to get trough a silence buff? Pk/TW/NW would be better if psy buff is just for the psy class only

Raynian - Heavens Tear

Zsw <<< is there maybe a chance that u can get online on the dreamweaver server so i can talk to you if possible

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Raynian - Heavens Tear wrote: »

other classes their buffs , barb ,cleric,bm buffs are defensive buffs ,they dont cause to get silenced every single second you try to attack . we waste willsurge/apoth just to get trough a silence buff? Pk/TW/NW would be better if psy buff is just for the psy class only

This is still on the assumption that the psy buffs are from a +12 weapon for high Soulforce.

Sins use apoth to bypass brambled targets in NW, so why should this be any different?

Again, its just an expensive investment where the customer and PWE benefit, and another advantage is given, just how tons of other things this game offers has.

Raynian - Heavens Tear

Bramble doesnt seal you for 3-5 seconds continuesly.. on bramble people can still hit , yea they get hit back just like soul of vengance , the silence is diffrent you get sealed over and over.

Xuela - Heavens Tear

Just ... Ooh my gawd Q_Q

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Raynian - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Bramble doesnt seal you for 3-5 seconds continuesly.. on bramble people can still hit , yea they get hit back just like soul of vengance , the silence is diffrent you get sealed over and over.

That is true, but this is still on the assumption that the buffs come from a very well refined geared Psychic. If someone is willing to pay for a Psychic alt buffer with +12 weapon for high Soulforce, then of course they will gain another nice advantage. The trade off would be an advantage for cash, between the player and the company.

For the record, I personally dislike Soul of Silence too, but from a business perspective, its genius for PWE as it gives the player an incentive to use such a buff, and that's why they will most likely not change it to a self buff.

RankNine - Momaganon

Raynian - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Bramble doesnt seal you for 3-5 seconds continuesly.. on bramble people can still hit , yea they get hit back just like soul of vengance , the silence is diffrent you get sealed over and over.

i suggest to stop posting here, you will only summon more trolls.
thhose buffs have been part of the game for a while now and wont be removed.
try to use hard hitting skills only, instead of quickshot autoattack

Zsw - Dreamweaver

Raynian - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Zsw <<< is there maybe a chance that u can get online on the dreamweaver server so i can talk to you if possible

Can you pm me on the forums or on youtube please?