A Fresh New Start

Kinnacat - Lost City
Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Venomancer
Hi there fellow venos! f:grin

So when I started playing PWI almost 5 years ago, I didn't know much about servers. I just stuck with the first one that popped up and ended up in Lost City. On the long run though, that wasn't too good, because all the events are at bad times for me because of the time difference.

As the game became more and more P2W, it became harder for me to keep up, and eventually I just quit playing because I couldn't make any money. Though now that NW exists, I stared having a bit of hope. My hopes were crushed when I learned that NW, just like the other events, is at a bad and unaccessible time for me. I still managed to upgrade my veno a bit, but now I'm stuck again with the "no money" problem.

So now I've decided to reroll, start anew, at 0% progress, on the Harshlands server which corresponds to my time zone. With dream chaser packs, NW, and maybe a little help, I think I can come to fully enjoy this game again. f:victory

Ok, I'm done talking now, hehe. Here's my question:

Of course I'm going to stick with a veno. My veno on LC is hybrid vit/mag, which I like, though I've always been a little disappointed with her dmg. I was wondering which build I should follow to keep up to nowadays standards. Should I reroll to pure magic or pure magic with a little bit of vit? Or something else entirely?

Thanks for your help! f:thanks

~Kinna
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If vit/mag hybrid works for you, stick with it, at least until you can shard/refine high enough to make restatting practical.
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  • Raziyal - Archosaur
    Raziyal - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I found when i was a vit hybrid, i never liked it on Nabbubu, that i decided to go to HA (im not an AA fan on a veno, im a fox ho)

    But as said, if you like vit/hybrid i say stick with it, but you could always try a new build for example, Pure, LA or HA builds. Depending on your play style. :D
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If I was you I would try pure magic if really you don't like it you can reset back in vit. =)
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I guess I'm going to link this.

    It's all endgame gear related though so until you actually reach endgame and get your hands on a decent gear set you might want to keep your current one since you are on a PvP server but maybe those numbers will help you decide what build you'd like to follow.
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  • Untamed_pain - Archosaur
    Untamed_pain - Archosaur Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    When i began to play i was pure magic veno or i think i listen to my ex and at one point had like almost 60 dex don't ask idk the answer to that. i was new to MMO's and he was my life line lol. But i do know i hated dying so i was putting vit in instead of magic so i guess im hybrid now. I have thought about going pure magic again to hit harder.
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    UhitLikaGirl Almost sage barb 100 buffer
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Thanks everyone for your input! :3

    @ Desdi:

    Your post helped a whole lot, tyvm. ^.^ My main worry with going pure magic was to lack HP, but since there's only 1k HP difference with the scenario you listed, I think I'll go pure magic.

    ~~~

    Another quick question:

    I would like to have a veno and a bm, but Idk which one I should lvl up to 100 first. I really want to concentrate on one char only until that char is where I want it to be.

    If I lvl up my bm first, I can then use it to sell frost and give my veno a spot in the exp room, so lvling her would be quite easy. Then again, which one would do better in NW? If the veno would, then I could make money more easily and get my bm his gear, but then it would take much longer to lvl him up. >.<

    So what do you think? Bm or veno first?
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
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    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    According to a faction mate with veno and BM, both level 101, his BM does better in NW than his veno.
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  • StellaNova - Raging Tide
    StellaNova - Raging Tide Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    For the making money part, don't forget the Jones dayli quests... from lvl 20 up to lvl 80 :)
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    According to a faction mate with veno and BM, both level 101, his BM does better in NW than his veno.

    Okay I'll consider that, ty. ^.^

    I actually made a really stupid mistake on my veno... Since she got fantasy fruit, she got from lvl 5 to 14 within a minute. So I had plenty of stats points. Guess what I did with it. Yeah, accidently stuffed em all in vit instead of mag. @.@ I want to keep my name so I gotta wait a week for that one to delete. >.>; Off to bm hehe...
    For the making money part, don't forget the Jones dayli quests... from lvl 20 up to lvl 80 :)

    Jones daily quests? What are those? =o I quit playing for a year so I'm not used to every new low lvl addition yet.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Jones bounty quests, 7 times daily per account per level range from 20 to 80, reward is coins, ratcheting up every 10 levels. This was a compensation for the DQ item nerf. Take them from Jolly Old Jones in any of the original race starter villages, you probably remember where.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I think you could level both at the same time for now if you can dual client. That way you finish quests fasters, do the cultivation all at once etc. and then start focusing on one of them when you see that keeping both geared up to level is getting harder.

    I'd guess BM is tanky so it can take a few hits which may result in getting more points but I think gear/playstyle/playing skills and a bit of luck play a role in this too. I can't judge though because out of all the few NWs I've done, it was always on my Venomancer. I was getting a steady 7k-8k with S3 Nirvana +7 set.
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Jones bounty quests, 7 times daily per account per level range from 20 to 80, reward is coins, ratcheting up every 10 levels. This was a compensation for the DQ item nerf. Take them from Jolly Old Jones in any of the original race starter villages, you probably remember where.

    Oh alright thanks. =]
    I think you could level both at the same time for now if you can dual client. That way you finish quests fasters, do the cultivation all at once etc. and then start focusing on one of them when you see that keeping both geared up to level is getting harder.

    I'd guess BM is tanky so it can take a few hits which may result in getting more points but I think gear/playstyle/playing skills and a bit of luck play a role in this too. I can't judge though because out of all the few NWs I've done, it was always on my Venomancer. I was getting a steady 7k-8k with S3 Nirvana +7 set.

    That's a good idea, thanks.

    Hmm ok. I guess I'll just have to experiment hehe.
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    well from a NW point of view, more hp -> more points when you get oneshotted. but yeah, you might deal 490 instead of a 510 dmg on a r9rr+12 josd toon b:chuckle
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I finally settled on lvling a pure magic veno on a PvE server instead of a PvP server.

    Thanks everyone for your opinions, info and suggestions. ^.^
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I finally settled on lvling a pure magic veno on a PvE server instead of a PvP server.

    Thanks everyone for your opinions, info and suggestions. ^.^

    I'm doing the same thing atm. =)
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Dreamweaver or Raging Tide? I'm not really active on DW anymore; my main on RT is YamamoriYuki if you want some help.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Dreamweaver or Raging Tide? I'm not really active on DW anymore; my main on RT is YamamoriYuki if you want some help.


    Oh hi there, seen your toon a lot on RT's b:victory
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Dreamweaver or Raging Tide? I'm not really active on DW anymore; my main on RT is YamamoriYuki if you want some help.

    That's nice of you. =] I chose Dreamweaver, though now I'm having second thoughts after finding out about a guild filled with sly *cough choke* evil *cough* venos who purposefully mess up the rare pet spawn times, making it really hard for anyone else to find out when they spawn. f:gross f:shock f:horror (I used to make ends meat with taming rares... Plus I love taming so much. ) And isn't RT pretty empty? I might be mixing it up with another server though.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'm trying Sanctuary atm and I saw Desdi the day I created my char, she was at City of Lost. =P
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'm trying Sanctuary atm and I saw Desdi the day I created my char, she was at City of Lost. =P

    So that stalker was you!!
    Nah, just kidding, there's no way I could have known it who's your toon b:chuckle

    @ Kinna - might be mixing it with Archosaur. I've heard that server is rather empty by other players (being amongst the newest ones, just what I've heard, don't have proof myself) but I don't think anyone said anything about RT. Plus, there's Mayfly there that can help you out f:victory
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    RT's pretty well populated; you might be thinking of Archosaur. There's also a fair amount of low level BHs WCed for.
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Dreamweaver or Raging Tide? I'm not really active on DW anymore; my main on RT is YamamoriYuki if you want some help.

    Mayfly is so mean, there is one pve server more b:sadb:sadb:sad . Meania McMeanerson b:cry !
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If she was re-rolling on the East Coast, then Archosaur just wasn't in the running.
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ah alright, I guess I mixed the servers up. Thanks for the clarification.

    I am rerolling on the East Coast because of the time of the events. I guess I just have to figure out what annoys me more... Screwed up rare pet times or starting over for the 5th time. b:cry

    Is there any guild like that on RT or HL?
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ah alright, I guess I mixed the servers up. Thanks for the clarification.

    I am rerolling on the East Coast because of the time of the events. I guess I just have to figure out what annoys me more... Screwed up rare pet times or starting over for the 5th time. b:cry

    Is there any guild like that on RT or HL?

    I think people on HL don't really care about the rare pets, not at the point to go mess up the time for fun, also on Sanctuary I realized that rare pets are sold at a crazy price, I don't know if it's like that on all PVE servers, but on HL we can find them a reasonable price, on Sanctuary a baby bear is minimum 1.5m (I even saw at 2.5m), on HL you can find at 400-500k. Even other rare pets are way more expensive on Sanctuary and I go check often and never see it so can't tame it myself.

    I heard RT is less populated, even dead, but if it's like other PVE servers it might be hard to get the rare pets. :S
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I haven't heard of any on RT, but I'm not really into rare pet taming... only do so when I happen across one.
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If she was re-rolling on the East Coast, then Archosaur just wasn't in the running.

    Uh, oh, right *hands cookie* Sowiez!
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    TBH Bella I think 400-500k isn't that reasonable, but I guess that's my "I wanna have fun and make money at the same time" side. xD I like when prices are higher hehe. I still remember farming all the money for my nix with taming and selling rares over 4 years ago back when they were 700k-1.5m. Good times, good times... *dreamy face*

    So now that I've definitely decided to make a pure mag veno, it comes down to which server I should choose...

    RT - Seems to have low population.
    Idk how helpful the people are.

    HL -
    Low rare pet prices (was planning on making money at low lvls with taming)
    I made a psy just for fun but with my favorite name that I have on my veno on DW. So I'd have to wait a week for it to delete. u_u
    Idk how the people are there. Are they inclined to help you at low lvls or rather to leave you in the dirt? xD

    DW -
    People seem to be ready to help at any time. I got into this great guild at lvl 20 and the people are awesome. <3
    Higher rare pet prices
    Bunch of evil venos

    Where should I go? I'm inclined to stay on DW but these sly foxes are seriously irritating me lol. Though I did find a taming partner...
  • Untamed_pain - Archosaur
    Untamed_pain - Archosaur Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well i have a 103 veno on Arch my main server

    I have EllaBlue which is currently lvl 13 on HEavens Tears server..my get away server (also have a lvl 50 wizzy)

    and i made a new veno on RT Cheyann lvl 1 lol :D Also have a lvl 25 mystic. I made it on RT so when West coast servers go down i can play there hahab:chuckle
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    StormyRainz Demon Mystic 101 Not rebirth yet
    EsmeStorms Demon wizzy 101 not rebirth yet
    UhitLikaGirl Almost sage barb 100 buffer
    and loads of other alts...