Post Count disabled in Off Topic

Kniraven - Lost City

We keep records now if top forum posters and reward them both with titles and recognition.
I suggest that the off topic board have post counts disabled, as the threads in that board are primarily the same few people spamming.

It contributes nothing to the health of our forum, and that is what we should be rewarding.



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The purpose of a post count on a forum is to indicate age, frequency, experience, and knowledge of the forum.

V4liance has set up a reward system (title customization) for higher post counts. On many other forums it is similar with terms such as "respected member" or "senior member" when certain counts are reached.

There is also an automated and stickied (by staff) rankings list for post counts.

Both of these staff acknowledged and promoted systems are devalued if an individual can just spam a lesser moderated area with no relevance to the forum subject and increase their personal values.

ToS should be enforced in all areas, or changed for the sake of consistency.

I am glad you agree that this change would not harm your ability to communicate and enjoy yourself in that area of the boards.

This change would promote recognition in the area it was originally intended and increase the accuracy/reliability of post counts indicating active and knowledgeable forum members.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

We keep records now if top forum posters and reward them both with titles and recognition.
I suggest that the off topic board have post counts disabled, as the threads in that board are primarily the same few people spamming.

It contributes nothing to the health of our forum, and that is what we should be rewarding.

What happens if I keep spamming in other threads?

Veneir - Dreamweaver

Most of the forums I've been on before had the post count disabled on off-topic, if that food for thought matters at all.

Honestily I don't see what the big deal is, though, that would make people want to change it when it wasn't that way already. I don't think the 'list of top forum posters' in any way gives any 'significant' award to be mentioned as a reason, either. Especially since it was created by a regular user.

Also, from what I've noticed, off-topic tends to be more friendily than the other forum sections.... why is trolling and arguing more 'healthy' to the forum, again?
Oh and then you'll get people who sass and bring their chattering to other boards. x3.

Additionally, I'm pretty sure the only reason you brought this up now of all times is because you have a qualm with Zanryu, which already makes your suggestion biased and therefore I don't take it seriousily at all.

Kniraven - Lost City

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What happens if I keep spamming in other threads?

Veneir - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Most of the forums I've been on before had the post count disabled on off-topic, if that food for thought matters at all.

Honestily I don't see what the big deal is, though, that would make people want to change it when it wasn't that way already. I don't think the 'list of top forum posters' in any way gives any 'significant' award to be mentioned as a reason, either. Especially since it was created by a regular user.

Also, from what I've noticed, off-topic tends to be more friendily than the other forum sections.... why is trolling and arguing more 'healthy' to the forum, again?
Oh and then you'll get people who sass and bring their chattering to other boards. x3.

@Zanryu, you already do spam and derail other threads.

@Veneir, it is disabled in most other forums for the reasons i am asking it be disabled here.
Most forums give special titles and respect to members with high post counts.

The forums purpose is for conversation related to the subject for which it was created.

Veneir - Dreamweaver

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

@Zanryu, you already do spam and derail other threads. It is against ToS and I hope something is done about it.

@Veneir, it is disabled in most other forums for the reasons i am asking it be disabled here.
Most forums give special titles and respect to members with high post counts.

The forums purpose is for conversation related to the subject for which it was created.

Yes but if you have not noticed, pretty much all the people on the forum are the same people, so not very many 'new' questions are asked, and dumb arguments that lead to insults that last some 90 pages about a proc happen instead. Or rage forums happen in the server sections, or stupid things. And the people who come to the forum anew to actually ask a question are shunned and told to use the search feature when they don't really know much about it, so get frustrated and don't come back, except for the rare case in which it is answered. This is not a healthy forum to begin with, and personally... except for a few exceptions, like SylenThunder, I actually have more respect for people on this forum who have less post count and take them more seriousily, because normally higher post count here seems to be negative and associated with spamming a bunch. So I don't really think it follows the norms those other forums do...

Zheii - Archosaur

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

We keep records now if top forum posters and reward them both with titles and recognition.
I suggest that the off topic board have post counts disabled, as the threads in that board are primarily the same few people spamming.

It contributes nothing to the health of our forum, and that is what we should be rewarding.

People with more post counts get rewards? Where. the hell. is my. cookie?! o_o

The Off-Topic is the only place where anything FUN happens on the forums the rest of it is just ********, whining and "my epeen is bigger than your epeen"
"PWI is breaking, THE GAME IS FALLING APART"
"I got **** help meQQ"
~flame flame flame flame~
"QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ"
-Troll Troll Troll troll, oh and look a bridge troll!!
I honestly think the content of the Off Topic has a lot more substance and allows you to actually create connections and gain friends.
And by all means take away the post count, cause honestly Idc.

What made me laugh though is how butt-hurt you are about us having fun, that's what a game is all about right? I think someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today... and every other day... like... you poor thing :C

Veneir - Dreamweaver

-removed-
And I very much agree with what Zheii posted. But I don't want my indicator for how much somebody spams to go away OTL

Kniraven - Lost City

Veneir - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes but if you have not noticed, pretty much all the people on the forum are the same people, so not very many 'new' questions are asked, and dumb arguments that lead to insults that last some 90 pages about a proc happen instead. Or rage forums happen in the server sections, or stupid things. And the people who come to the forum anew to actually ask a question are shunned and told to use the search feature when they don't really know much about it, so get frustrated and don't come back, except for the rare case in which it is answered. This is not a healthy forum to begin with, and personally... except for a few exceptions, like SylenThunder, I actually have more respect for people on this forum who have less post count and take them more seriousily, because normally higher post count here seems to be negative and associated with spamming a bunch. So I don't really think it follows the norms those other forums do...

That's exactly my point.
Thankyou.

The active members with highest post counts right now, which normally would be considered respected senior members in other places, are spammers and trolls. Most of them obtained their high and misleading post count by frequenting insufficiently or lesser moderated boards which have less rules; and in the Off Topic board's case also are unrelated to the game for which this forum was made. One only has to visit the board to see it is the same people spamming.

You can also see multiple references to having additional methods of contact. The only reason to spam like that is to increase post count.

Kniraven - Lost City

Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »

People with more post counts get rewards? Where. the hell. is my. cookie?! o_o

The Off-Topic is the only place where anything FUN happens on the forums the rest of it is just ********, whining and "my epeen is bigger than your epeen"
"PWI is breaking, THE GAME IS FALLING APART"
"I got **** help meQQ"
~flame flame flame flame~
"QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ"
-Troll Troll Troll troll, oh and look a bridge troll!!
I honestly think the content of the Off Topic has a lot more substance and allows you to actually create connections and gain friends.
And by all means take away the post count, cause honestly Idc.

What made me laugh though is how butt-hurt you are about us having fun, that's what a game is all about right? I think someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today... and every other day... like... you poor thing :C

Would disabling post count in Off Topic board simehow disrupt your ability to communicate, have fun, or make friends ?

It's amusing that the only people replying and disagreeing so strongly are those who frequent that board and spam to raise their post count

Zheii - Archosaur

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

Would disabling post count in Off Topic board simehow disrupt your ability to communicate, have fun, or make friends ?

It's amusing that the only people replying and disagreeing so strongly are those who frequent that board and spam to raise their post count

No it wouldn't, but would leaving it on disrupt your ability to complain and compete with others about how well you know your class or how pro your faction is? does it effect you at all!?

-And the reason behind why we're the only ones responding... is because we're the only ones it effects, the rest of the forum doesn't care, 'cause it doesn't effect them, just like it doesn't effect you.
oh FYI I don't care if you want to disable my post count all together cause apparently I "spam" They're just numbers on a computer screen, what matters is what I say and what I do. Not how many posts of tiny meaningless words I can fit into one day.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

Would disabling post count in Off Topic board simehow disrupt your ability to communicate, have fun, or make friends ?

It's amusing that the only people replying and disagreeing so strongly are those who frequent that board and spam to raise their post count

I don't see why you care so much about post count. It isn't exactly indicative of a helpful person or a troll no matter how high or low it is. Get your panties out of a knot. Here, let's just disable post count across all forums excluding the lower depths so only trolls will have super big post counts and we'll know who not to trust! Genius!

Desdi - Sanctuary

I wouldn't care if they disable the post count for this sub-forum. I post here because there are some fun threads and forum games and I also get to chit-chat with other players and sometimes engage in interesting conversations. This place is safe from complaints, QQ and whining for the most part.

My favourite place to post is the Venomancer sub-forum, go figure, but prior this content update that place was a little dead so I ended up coming here most of the time because it's the most friendly place and for me it's the most fun sub-forum after the Venomancer one.

As for the Top Forum Posters, I see that mostly as a funny little thing rather than a real ranking list with awards and whatnot.

Kniraven - Lost City

The purpose of a post count on a forum is to indicate age, frequency, experience, and knowledge of the forum.

V4liance has set up a reward system (title customization) for higher post counts. On many other forums it is similar with terms such as "respected member" or "senior member" when certain counts are reached.

There is also an automated and stickied (by staff) rankings list for post counts.

Both of these staff acknowledged and promoted systems are devalued if an individual can just spam a lesser moderated area with no relevance to the forum subject and increase their personal values.

ToS should be enforced in all areas, or changed for the sake of consistency.

I am glad you agree that this change would not harm your ability to communicate and enjoy yourself in that area of the boards.

This change would promote recognition in the area it was originally intended and increase the accuracy/reliability of post counts indicating active and knowledgeable forum members.

EDIY: @ Desdi, hon, you don't even know where you are xD this is the suggestion box

Desdi - Sanctuary

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

The purpose of a post count on a forum is to indicate age, frequency, experience, and knowledge of the forum.

V4liance has set up a reward system (title customization) for higher post counts. On many other forums it is similar with terms such as "respected member" or "senior member" when certain counts are reached.

There is also an automated and stickied (by staff) rankings list for post counts.

Both of these staff acknowledged and promoted systems are devalued if an individual can just spam a lesser moderated area with no relevance to the forum subject and increase their personal values.

ToS should be enforced in all areas, or changed for the sake of consistency.

I am glad you agree that this change would not harm your ability to communicate and enjoy yourself in that area of the boards.

This change would promote recognition in the area it was originally intended and increase the accuracy/reliability of post counts indicating active and knowledgeable forum members.

EDIY: @ Desdi, hon, you don't even know where you are xD this is the suggestion box

Oh I use the "today's post" to see the latest posts and might have looked at Off-Topic Discussion name while clicking this here b:surrender my bad. Not the first time it happens.

I kinda forgot about the title awards, you got a point there. I'm kinda set with my title, don't need anything else for it so I completely erased that off my mind somehow.

Veneir - Dreamweaver

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

V4liance has set up a reward system (title customization) for higher post counts. On many other forums it is similar with terms such as "respected member" or "senior member" when certain counts are reached.

You know... the whole reason titles were made a thing is because Decus contacted Frankie when he was CM in order to ask him personally about titles. And then The Soon Master later made the thread to enable everyone to get titles. [When I first read your post it sounded more like you were saying Vally had originally set it up, woops. Have history lessons, anyway.]
Personally, I put much more weight on persons having titles than the post count.... and you seem to be mentioning titles pretty often, too. For instance, Zanryu does not have a title right now, because it was removed when he was 'missing' for a month. This speaks out to me much more than if his post count was reduced, and if you want people to be displayed as obvious spammers, I'd say to remove their titles, or change them to something indicating of it more blatantily.

I'm really sorry that the quality of the forum sucks; I get it and I understand your concerns, but I highily doubt anything is going to change overnight 'cause of post counts. Heck, even the title thing wouldn't 'change' anything. Probabily neither would taking away signatures or any combination of those, 'cause I can just see the people here as continuing to be terrible since that's how they get their amusement from these forums. "Don't fix it if it's not broken" should be paired with "Don't try to fix it if you can't un-break it."
(Also, you're welcome m'dear (in response to the 'Thankyou' earlier))

--Desdi *snuggles tail*

ovenusarmanio

Let's not make this a ban discussion thread, or a discussion about who breaks what rule.

Anyway, I wouldn't have an issue with off-topic not counting towards the post count, although I have quite a few posts in there despite being also helpful in general. Although, I think one of the reasons off-topic is such a hugely disproportionate number now is because the forums, like the game, has decreased severely in population. It used to be you could refresh a topic and have a conversation with someone, on-topic, about a game mechanic or thing. Now you can't even really refresh today's posts and get something new. It leads to off-topic mattering a lot more in the off-topic count proportion. The titles themselves though are ridiculously easy to get even without off-topic posts. And there are few posters that have a title from spam and not from more legitimate posts as opposed to just fun posts.

And hanging out in off-topic isn't just to increase post count, it's to talk to multiple people from other servers. It's just for fun. Fun doesn't need the post count though. I wouldn't be opposed to this.

Sister_Warui - Raging Tide

Sorry in advance if this gets long and wordy. I know my English can do that sometimes.

Ethos: I have stated before in a somewhat similar argument against spamming in Off-topic that I do not care if you permanently change my post count to 0. (feel free to use this in your rebuttal) I have posted both in 'regular' threads and the off-topic section in question. (more than the 50 needed for the title in each).

Pathos: I might have been more inclined to agree with this somewhat if it had not been you (Kniraven) posting this. My feelings for you are mixed and mostly negative to be honest. Your dislike of an entire server (RT) of people for the few posts you read in the forums and the fights you get into with Apo make me think you jump to broad conclusions very quickly. I also feel like you mean well when you post but mostly you just use barbed words in pretty much anything you write (this thread seems to have been saved from this seeing as you want to put on a good face to the suggestion. kudos to you. Truly). You answer and then use a mixture of bad mannered sarcasm to focus your point and downgrade/troll anyone who disagrees with you. Even when staying on topic. I have been turned away/off of threads that I look to for help when you start posting...despite your post count. This is because I look past post count and into the heart of the post to decide if it merits truly listening to.

Logos: To continue from the final sentence in the Pathos section; anyone who is going to benefit from the advice in the forums is not going to be dumb enough to look at post count or 'senior poster/helper' titles to decide if that post is worth listening to. Someone who says BMs should go full MAG for PK for 5 years and 6k posts in every BM post is still going to be wrong. For this alone I would disagree with your reasoning and thus your suggestion. Titles are meant to be a fun way to personalize your profile. Nothing more. Off topic is a place to make friends/get the case of the Mondays off of your chest/socialize with like minded (people who play PWI) people. The higher post count translating to a new title or colors goes hand in hand. You know...Having fun. You ask multiple times if it would change anything by not having our post go up but would it make a difference that it does bearing in mind what I just said? Also I am confused as to what recognition people get other than in personal opinion. You keep talking as it if is a mechanic being granted due to a higher post count like a title is but I do not see it.

Philosophic logic:Further to the point this game is on a down hill slide due to a lack of innovation a genuine disregard/inability to handle technical problems with the game and a lack of advertisement. There are very few players left who post on these forums frequently. Few who play anymore to be honest. It grants us a unique necessity to play against the player and not just the class in regards to PK. Knowing the people you play with factors into that. So I suppose as far as that is concerned Off topic grants us more of a chance to do so. Also if someone only posted in Off topic enough to get their title revoked would you suggest they take away their title making a game forum you seem to care for more bland and colorless? Bad business and even worse for helping if that was what you were trying to do.

Story:I am a young professional. At 20 I am younger than most for the type of translation company I own. The only reason I own the thing at all is a firm grasp of the Stock market that provided my start up costs and a innate ability to learn languages. You will notice none of that is giving speeches. I get scared! stage fright if you will. I asked in the off topic section how to get over that in one of our 'spam heavy' threads and received support and friendly help from multiple sources. I made both of those speeches just fine My company was proud of me. Which is the best end result possible.
What you suggest makes it seem like you think is somehow less friendly/helpful/deserving of respect than the last pages of the purify proc conversation.

To close this out with final words I do not think your suggestion and sub sequent reasoning for suggesting so merit looking into. There are bigger fish to fry to get this game running right. And even then I think your logic is flawed as to it helping the community.
My first lesson in critical thinking was looking at the argument and the point before looking to someones Ethos(title/merit) to decide what is right or worthy. Less post count affects nothing. Especially Zan and people whom you are against that also post in other sections enough to keep their titles. Less unique titles(from new people spamming in off topic lets say) makes the forums bland and more colorless than it already is. Less inviting for the new age.

Final answer to your suggestion: No.

Counter suggestion: Creating a 'best answer' system and letting the poster pick one and then NOT enabling it on the off topic section is much more effective to suit your desires. Further people looking for help would be less inclined to post again and start the hate fest that the rest of the forum other than the off topic section usually turn into. Even if I still would not be dumb enough to look at it above someone else also answering honestly.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Nah. The idea behind your idea is good but spammers would just find other, even more annoying places to spam.

But I completely agree with you on the fact that something needs to be done. Not gonna lie, this offtopic spam is annoying me. It's got nothing to do with the game has no purpose besides the person seeking attention.

Honestly, I don't even get why they're not stricter. They banned and then let it go to let the exact same thing happen again. Well thanks, higher ups.

Decus - Dreamweaver

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nah. The idea behind your idea is good but spammers would just find other, even more annoying places to spam.

But I completely agree with you on the fact that something needs to be done. Not gonna lie, this offtopic spam is annoying me. It's got nothing to do with the game has no purpose besides the person seeking attention.

Honestly, I don't even get why they're not stricter. They banned and then let it go to let the exact same thing happen again. Well thanks, higher ups.

Eh, spamming is bannable though, so it's not like it would go unpunished.

Pretty much agree fully with this post (sans the first part) and the OP in general.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What happens if I keep spamming in other threads?

Veneir - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Oh and then you'll get people who sass and bring their chattering to other boards. x3.

^ This is the most childish logic I can possibly imagine. "Well, if you do that then I'll just bring it to other places instead, since I can't do it in my old locale anymore. So you might as well keep it in one place." What?

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nah. The idea behind your idea is good but spammers would just find other, even more annoying places to spam.

But I completely agree with you on the fact that something needs to be done. Not gonna lie, this offtopic spam is annoying me. It's got nothing to do with the game has no purpose besides the person seeking attention.

Honestly, I don't even get why they're not stricter. They banned and then let it go to let the exact same thing happen again. Well thanks, higher ups.

I feel the same way, the off-topic spam is annoying and to cut the post counts there will not work and will penalize people that did nothing wrong for the same few people than usual.

Off-topic doesn't mean that people can spam. It's for people that want to discuss about something that have nothing to do with the game, but some people act like it was a chat box and spam it of convo that concern only 2-3 persons.

A few months ago I had a discussion about PV (phoenix valley) with someone and a mod told us to keep that in pm and people have a thread with fake forum wedding arrangements and they don't get tell to keep that in pm? I'm really insulted on how I get tell to keep in pm a discussion about the game while a thread about fake wedding arrangements is still going on.

Nariin - Dreamweaver

Not wanting it because people will go spam to other parts instead (which they already do) is silly, and avoiding the problem, rather then solving it. They'd just have to filter it and ban those who keep doing it. If the current spammers lost their interest it would prove the often brought-on idea - that they do it for post count and shiny titles.

Anyway, I support the idea.

Zheii - Archosaur

...There is a "Problem"? O.o
to all the people who say they are "annoyed" by the Off-topic section then you seriously need to do a double take on your life because if something as innocent and ahh... UNRELATED TO YOU annoys you that much that you need to QQ about it then I think there is something majorly wrong.

You all have this weird idea that you get some reward for more post costs, I get another color in my forum title oh happy day!! lol =_="

First of all: If people getting this so "reward" for what you guys like to call "spamming" is that much trouble then just take it away from the people who supposedly "spam", Idc, it's just some pretty colors under my name I mean, not really a big deal at all lol, I'd rather have fun, gain friends and create connections than try and evolve my stupid forum title so that it can turn into a rainbow.

Second: If you have a problem with the weekly rankings and these so called "spammers" being on top, then just post more. simple and easy one step fix to all your problems!

Third: I think you're all forgetting.. that it's just some stupid numbers on a computer screen and it doesn't matter what-so-ever. I don't understand why you guys have that much of a problem with it, Is there some sort of secret post count fight that I don't know about? Some sort of fight to the death over who can get the highest number? O.o
because that's how you guys are acting, and honestly I find it quite funny, and you guys are so obviously annoyed at something so simple and silly.

Imo you "downers" who come into any fun thread QQ about it and watch it then get closed (I can link threads if you don't believe me lol) have this master plan of sucking anything remotely happy or fun out of the forums so you can be the kings and queens of some angry flaming mass of obsessed PWI players who get their jollys out find and calling out the noobs and telling them how it really is.

And doesn't that just seem like a fun and nice environment to be in? >.>'

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

All the hate I get makes sense now, ibecause of my sexy 6k post count

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »

if something as innocent and ahh... UNRELATED TO YOU annoys you that much that you need to QQ about it then I think there is something majorly wrong.

You just admitted that the threads you guys made are not for everyone and ONLY for some specific people. GG.
If it's not for everyone than you should not make it.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »

Imo you "downers" who come into any fun thread QQ about it and watch it then get closed (I can link threads if you don't believe me lol) have this master plan of sucking anything remotely happy or fun out of the forums so you can be the kings and queens of some angry flaming mass of obsessed PWI players who get their jollys out find and calling out the noobs and telling them how it really is.

That's a little harsh on the mods and GMs, don't you think? b:chuckle

Zheii - Archosaur

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

You just admitted that the threads you guys made are not for everyone and ONLY for some specific people. GG.
If it's not for everyone than you should not make it.

Pfftt, I'm sorry but what? xD
There is no rules as to who or what or if anyone or no-one can post or not post on a thread. There is no thread that is created specifically for "everyone" Is a thread in the cleric forum created for the whole forum? NO it's created for those who know and care about clericing, the same applies to all other threads, they are created so that people who are interested in the topic can post and discuss if they choose to on the chosen topic of the OP, just because a certain topic doesn't interest you, doesn't mean you then have to go and QQ about it and get it closed.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

That's a little harsh on the mods and GMs, don't you think? b:chuckle

Lmao, that's not what I was implying, it's a Mod or GM's job to close threads that are Necro/Flaming/offensive/etc... What is NOT their job is to get influenced by some of the top posters on the forums and close the threads because they QQ about them.

ovenusarmanio

Spamming a thread with off-topic stuff is an awful lot like talking loudly in a theater. Just because your conversation is private and has nothing to do with the people around you, it doesn't mean it can't be disruptive to their chosen form of entertainment. And turning a thread into being about you, instead of being about what's being discussed it's like turning a play into being about you instead of the actors trying to entertain. It's all kinds of annoying. I'm not talking about one or two off-topic posts, which everyone does. Just like someone might whisper "that was so cool!" in a theater to someone else. Like having a full blown loud conversation in a theater...I'm talking about flat out derailing threads. The spam in off-topic by comparison is much less annoying, all threads should have a point and be something for everyone to discuss though. Not just a couple of people. Any private communication should be taken to the PMs.

And if someone points out a potential rules violation to us, it our job to evaluate that post/thread and take appropriate action based on whether or not we agree it is indeed in violation. Spam may violate one or many of these rules, which have been abbreviated for brevity but which you may check out in full by clicking the link in my signature.

You may not use the Perfect World International (PWI) Forums to:

6. SPAM by posting frequent and/or annoying messages in the forums.

7. No trolling, or flaming.

8. No posting of personal conversations or personal information

11. No power-posting, spamming, bumping and/or flaming.

12. No inappropriate discussion types.

13. Keep posts in the appropriate forum.
For example, don't post a topic about Untamed in the Winged Elf forums.

14. Keep posts on-topic.
Keep the topic in mind when you post. Refrain from posting irrelevant information.

BTW, moderation is not allowed to be discussed on the forums. So I'll thank you not to link any specific threads.

What spam is not is organizing things like server events, participating in forum games, discussing things unrelated to PWI, etc. As long as a thread doesn't violate any of those rules, even if it isn't every person's cup of tea, it is not spam. And as always, you can appeal to us to get something reopened. We'll either explain to you while it remains closed, or reopen it upon further evaluation.

Decus - Dreamweaver

I think we need to clarify something here. Spam is posting with increased frequency, not necessarily making a thread about unrelated **** that has nothing to do with PWI. "Spamming" isn't allowed, as per the ToS, anywhere on the forum (be it Off-Topic or GD). When a thread's post come within seconds of each other and are the same few posters, that's spam. Trying to debase or otherwise attack the people that don't see it your way on the grounds of their character and not their arguments just comes off as extremely childish. A conversation that belongs in PMs belongs in PMs.

Not that I have any reason to defend myself to anyone here, but I have plenty of fun on the forum, and I don't only post in PWI-related threads. I have an entire thread dedicated to helping people on DW (and really the whole forum) with their math homework. Sure, it's not everyone's idea of a fun Saturday night, but it's fun to me to help other people out and give little challenges. Is it related to every single person on the forum? No. But you know what it's not? Having conversations with other people on a message board and posting posting tons and tons per hour.


EDIT: Another thing that really irks me... Saying that it's otherwise acceptable to spam because the forums would be full of trolls and flamers if not for people "having fun" is really stupid. No, sorry. No one is condoning things that violate the ToS. No one here has ever said, "Trolls are okay but spammers are not." Stop making a discussion about something that it isn't. Trolling and flaming is just as against the ToS as spamming, so quit it with that silly point and discuss the topic at hand instead of drawing attention away from it.

Zheii - Archosaur

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I think we need to clarify something here. Spam is posting with increased frequency, not necessarily making a thread about unrelated **** that has nothing to do with PWI. "Spamming" isn't allowed, as per the ToS, anywhere on the forum (be it Off-Topic or GD). When a thread's post come within minutes of each other, that's spam. Trying to debase or otherwise attack the people that don't see it your way on the grounds of their character and not their arguments just comes off as extremely childish.

Not that I have any reason to defend myself to you, but I have plenty of fun on the forum, and I don't only post in PWI-related threads. I have an entire thread dedicated to helping people on DW (and really the whole forum) with their math homework. Sure, it's not everyone's idea of a fun Saturday night, but it's fun to me to help other people out and give little challenges. Is it related to everyone on the forum? No. But you know what it's not? Having conversations with other people on a message board and posting posting tons and tons per day.

So technically by your definition of "spamming" the only thread that would be put in that bracket would be the Count to 1000(0) thread, and in some cases the Mod's would even be the ones "spamming"...
-In the past we may of had our little bit of fun with a few threads that were created about a specific person, but again I say; "If you're not interested in it just ignore it", it's quite simple really.
But we're getting off topic, the thread isn't about spammers or spamming it's about Post counts in the Off-Topic section.
Oh and FYI your maths thread should technically be within the off-topic section because as you stated "helping people with their maths homework" isn't exactly related to PWI.. or even anything to do with the DW server really.

Also, posting and having fun in the off topic section is now instantly called spamming? O.o when did this new little development happen?

Xainou - Sanctuary

Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »

Lmao, that's not what I was implying, it's a Mod or GM's job to close threads that are Necro/Flaming/offensive/etc... What is NOT their job is to get influenced by some of the top posters on the forums and close the threads because they QQ about them.

They're humans too. And if whoever is responsible for the final decision on bans didn't agree, people wouldn't get banned. Simple as that.

Also, I come here to discuss the game or even like in the case of the MLP thread, ponies. But that's one thread. Not countless threads revolving around a single person. That kind of personal conversation like "OMG I love you " belongs on skype or somewhere, but not on these forums.


Ergh sorry, I might have started using the term "spamming". Decus is right ofc. b:surrender

Zheii - Archosaur

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

They're humans too. And if whoever is responsible for the final decision on bans didn't agree, people wouldn't get banned. Simple as that.

Also, I come here to discuss the game or even like in the case of the MLP thread, ponies. But that's one thread. Not countless threads revolving around a single person. That kind of personal conversation like "OMG I love you " belongs on skype or somewhere, but not on these forums.


Ergh sorry, I might have started using the term "spamming". Decus is right ofc. b:surrender

So... The only connection some of us have is these forums, we met here, became friends created connections and had fun together, and then we want to share our fun and happiness with the rest of the forums? is that such a crime? Expressing love or care for another person through a bit of fun in a little thread about a forum wedding or something similar is now against the ToS? Outlawing love and happiness are we?
It's not really harming/offending/annoying/flaming anyone or anything, we're not spamming it, or creating trouble.
I don't know why we can't just leave it alone.