Damage Ranking, Highest Hit?

Peterpetermm - Heavens Tear

Hey guys im on Raging tide, dying to see if wizards can hit upwards of 700k+?
Either way on the test dummy can someone tell me the best combo?
so far im doing triple spark,EP,Enrage then Blade tempest and i cant hit past 521k
undine strike or spark debuff doesn't do any difference on him =/

_Opps_ - Dreamweaver

it can be done.

Sheswes - Heavens Tear

easily - my best hit (long time ago when I had only 680+ mag) was nearly 1,2m (w/o any DoTs)

combo: undine strike+triple spark+extreme poison+frenzy+BT

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »

easily - my best hit (long time ago when I had only 680+ mag) was nearly 1,2m (w/o any DoTs)

combo: undine strike+triple spark+extreme poison+frenzy+BT

The ranking mob doesn't have any mdef so you don't need to use undine. Fackin scrub!

Peterpeterm - Raging Tide

Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »

easily - my best hit (long time ago when I had only 680+ mag) was nearly 1,2m (w/o any DoTs)

combo: undine strike+triple spark+extreme poison+frenzy+BT

if you check your Dmg with and with out undine its the same.
maybe criticals are higher when debuffed? doubt it

skaitavia

Don't forget other damage boosters, such as a weapon buff with a rune or a seeker skill, the mystic buff that increases skill damage by 20%, Cleric's buff for magic attack, and faction base crit buff (both the crit increase and rage increase (wolf emblem)). Those will help significantly.

Peterpeterm - Raging Tide

Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »

easily - my best hit (long time ago when I had only 680+ mag) was nearly 1,2m (w/o any DoTs)

combo: undine strike+triple spark+extreme poison+frenzy+BT

Was that with the Demo or Sage skills? or regular.

Fissile - Archosaur

The damage test dummy has no defense. Debuffs that decrease defense are unnecessary.

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Fissile - Archosaur wrote: »

The damage test dummy has no defense. Debuffs that decrease defense are unnecessary.

So using Spark genie skill doesn't do anything? What about Extreme Poison?

Fissile - Archosaur

Spark will have no effect because the damage test mob has no fire defense. Extreme poison will have an effect because it adds to the total damage you deal.

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Sooo, i finally got 3 pieces of r9s3 armour bringing my mag stat up to 696. Have r9s3 weap also +10. Was thinking an extra 100 mag would make a decent impact on how hard i could hit. Boy was i wrong
Before i got a the 3 piece set bonus but with the R9s3 weap at +10 i was hitting the mob for 611k.
With the 100 mag bonus, my damage went up to 662k. Thats only like 50k extra damage, i was expecting a much higher number
Have all buffs (not mystic buff tho, I'll have to get hold of that). High end of mag attack is 24k. Attack level is at 99 atm, with more to come when i finish set.
Combo was 3 spark - chi pot - extreme poison - BT - Frenzy (while channeling BT).

Now im not sure if frenzying while channeling BT is the way to go, from what i read on another thread the hit will be calculated at the time you hit BT, so frenzy won't be included in the calculation if it wasn't activated before the BT skill was started.... can anyone confirm this please?

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Only another 50K lol

Pwnallagain - Heavens Tear

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sooo, i finally got 3 pieces of r9s3 armour bringing my mag stat up to 696. Have r9s3 weap also +10. Was thinking an extra 100 mag would make a decent impact on how hard i could hit. Boy was i wrong
Before i got a the 3 piece set bonus but with the R9s3 weap at +10 i was hitting the mob for 611k.
With the 100 mag bonus, my damage went up to 662k. Thats only like 50k extra damage, i was expecting a much higher number
Have all buffs (not mystic buff tho, I'll have to get hold of that). High end of mag attack is 24k. Attack level is at 99 atm, with more to come when i finish set.
Combo was 3 spark - chi pot - extreme poison - BT - Frenzy (while channeling BT).

Now im not sure if frenzying while channeling BT is the way to go, from what i read on another thread the hit will be calculated at the time you hit BT, so frenzy won't be included in the calculation if it wasn't activated before the BT skill was started.... can anyone confirm this please?

Well if you had used full r9s1/r9s2 before you got those three pieces that would explain it. You lost some of the attack levels from the set bonus, so you would obviously lose some damage. Once you finish your r9s3 set, your damage will go much higher.

Adroit - Lost City

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Now im not sure if frenzying while channeling BT is the way to go, from what i read on another thread the hit will be calculated at the time you hit BT, so frenzy won't be included in the calculation if it wasn't activated before the BT skill was started.... can anyone confirm this please?

Whoever told you that is a derp, as long as you hit frenzy before channeling finishes.. you get the atk level boost. Damage calculation takes place at the instant between the channeling and casting phase of a skill.

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Pwnallagain - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well if you had used full r9s1/r9s2 before you got those three pieces that would explain it. You lost some of the attack levels from the set bonus, so you would obviously lose some damage. Once you finish your r9s3 set, your damage will go much higher.

Not so sure about that, once i get full set i will only gain 15 more attack levels, not even looking like its enough to get me into the 700k bracket.
So much for wizzies being the hardest hitters in game, the top rankers on HT are seekers and BM's of all things. I haven't seen any wizzies get anywhere near the 2 mil that our top seekers are able to get.

Adroit - Lost City

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not so sure about that, once i get full set i will only gain 15 more attack levels, not even looking like its enough to get me into the 700k bracket.
So much for wizzies being the hardest hitters in game, the top rankers on HT are seekers and BM's of all things. I haven't seen any wizzies get anywhere near the 2 mil that our top seekers are able to get.

pve has never been a wiz's strong point, but we can certainly hold our own in pvp. You have to remember that what makes us hit really hard in pvp is our mdef debuffs (undine + genie spark), which are absolutely useless on mobs that have no mdef.

Also note that the one mob near raging tides with some ridiculous amount of hp can be damage tested on as well.. and you can get all class debuffs to help with that one. In my signature is a 7m hit on it, and I actually went back a second time and got several more debuffs.. had a 6.99m non-crit hit on it.. so if I were to go back again (when people didn't have to go right away), a 14m hit is possible.

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Lol was wondering what the hell that crit was on in your siggy, was gonna cry if it was on another player b:laugh

Fissile - Archosaur

I went and played with the damage test mob a little bit over the weekend and was disappointed to learn that it is immune to ice prison b:angry

My gear is nowhere near maxxed but the best I hit it was a little under 900k with cleric buff only.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

pve has never been a wiz's strong point, but we can certainly hold our own in pvp. You have to remember that what makes us hit really hard in pvp is our mdef debuffs (undine + genie spark), which are absolutely useless on mobs that have no mdef.

Also note that the one mob near raging tides with some ridiculous amount of hp can be damage tested on as well.. and you can get all class debuffs to help with that one. In my signature is a 7m hit on it, and I actually went back a second time and got several more debuffs.. had a 6.99m non-crit hit on it.. so if I were to go back again (when people didn't have to go right away), a 14m hit is possible.

I see 13.4 mil crit in your siggy

Adroit - Lost City

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I see 13.4 mil crit in your siggy

hehe I decided to go back again after writing that post, the 13.4m was a low end hit.. I know a high end crit could top 14m. The person that was helping me amp/debuff was getting bored though, so this will have to do for now xD

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

hehe I decided to go back again after writing that post, the 13.4m was a low end hit.. I know a high end crit could top 14m. The person that was helping me amp/debuff was getting bored though, so this will have to do for now xD

b:cry

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Adroit, what sort of numbers are you able to get on the ranking mob?
and GZ on the TB test mob, might go and play on that with some buddies. Be nice to have a seeker and a BM there to debuff the hell out of it. Are there any other classes that have skills that increase damage?

Adroit - Lost City

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Adroit, what sort of numbers are you able to get on the ranking mob?
and GZ on the TB test mob, might go and play on that with some buddies. Be nice to have a seeker and a BM there to debuff the hell out of it. Are there any other classes that have skills that increase damage?

I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think it was low 7 digits. I haven't personally tested this, but I hear that seekers can xfer debuffs to the dmg test mob for you, which would increase damage quite a bit.

I think the maximum damage you'll ever really see as a wiz is going to be..

ep buff + mystic buff (one that increases pve dmg) + guild base increase rage dmg thingy (and probably increase crit rate) + 105 nw pot + seeker atk level buff

amp the boss with sage veno amp, dragons, sage subsea, seeker pve buffs (both the increase fire dmg and increase phys dmg) + the seeker def level transfer + ice prison

Triple spark -> chi pot -> frenzy -> Blade tempest


I could potentially hit the mob for more with deities or better variable stats/engraves, but I think this is about as good as it's going to get for me :P

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Just playing with the buffs in PWCALC on your build, Demon Spirits gift gives an extra 150% mag attack for 10 after cleric casts. Thats a pretty awesome increase in damage, like an extra 7k on your build.

Adroit - Lost City

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Just playing with the buffs in PWCALC on your build, Demon Spirits gift gives an extra 150% mag attack for 10 after cleric casts. Thats a pretty awesome increase in damage, like an extra 7k on your build.

The cleric that casts demon spirit's gift gets the +matk (not the target), and I'm fairly sure the +matk doesn't stack with triple spark +matk

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Ah thats a shame, thanks for the heads up

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ah thats a shame, thanks for the heads up

I thought that you would know that because you have R93, maybe I was just thinking too much of PWI players.

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I thought that you would know that because you have R93, maybe I was just thinking too much of PWI players.

Not all of us study each character and know every intricate detail about their skills. The ones that want to be the best of the best probably do, but i don't care about that. I don't have the full set yet, maybe when i do i'll know everything like you do.

Fissile - Archosaur

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think it was low 7 digits. I haven't personally tested this, but I hear that seekers can xfer debuffs to the dmg test mob for you, which would increase damage quite a bit.

This was fixed a long time ago.

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not all of us study each character and know every intricate detail about their skills. The ones that want to be the best of the best probably do, but i don't care about that. I don't have the full set yet, maybe when i do i'll know everything like you do.

I don't know everything, but that is a pretty basic thing.

Also you have been playing for a while, that's why I thought you would know that.

Adroit - Lost City

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't know everything, but that is a pretty basic thing.

Also you have been playing for a while, that's why I thought you would know that.

This is probably one of those things that you wouldn't know unless someone told you or you were randomly curious one day. It's especially bad because there is a bug in pwcalc which lets you put that +matk bonus on any character that can receive ep buffs.. and that could be very misleading.