Max DEX
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Lonchot - Heavens Tear wrote: »I got my barb with full nirvyS3 gear, and i noticed i got exactly 80 dex, wich allows me to get 13% critic... So i'd like to ask if i should get reset notes, and lower it to 60DEX, or keep it at 80Dex to hold 1% critic? b:surprised
20 points difference is not bad actually. Might as well keep your DEX as it is IMHO. If it suits your playstyle.Sage barb in progress.0 -
Lol from PvP perspective Malta hit the nail, if you go out and actually do PvP rather than doing theory pk then you will realise what is he saying. Though I would personally restat to more STR if i ever get +12 refines.0
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I still just don't get the point of a claw barb or a pure strength barb....b:surrender *points at sig* b:dirtyIt's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender0 -
SteelStar - Heavens Tear wrote: »I still just don't get the point of a claw barb or a pure strength barb....b:surrender *points at sig* b:dirty
I do agree with you but something from what I have experienced lately in PvP with the purify proc, expel, Leaps and players spamming 50/67% pdef charms it is very hard to string together enough attacks to kill a person without arma. So, if i get +12 refines (including ornies) i would still have the same survivability (or maybe slightly better) than I have right now with the additional advantage on Damage.
Right now against a decent PvPer without Arma it is just impossible to kill him (Unless you get lucky with 3 zerk crits in a row or something). But with more STR the normal damage should increase enough to have a chance, well it might still not increase but I want to give it a try if it fails can always re stat to vit.
(Above is considering end game gears/shard/refines for oppononent)0 -
I never counted these things too much or anything but I have to say I DO NOT REGRET statting 80 base dex. It couldd be even more. My culti is demon and the usefulness of additional crits + accuracy is very noteable. Just yesterday in NW I oneshotted sin with Bestial Onslaught that actually hitted.
All PVE content can be done with 19-20k HP and rest I need I can get from refines+gems. I believe in balanced characters, not in 50k HP barbs with crappy accuracy. Of course if you want to be a meatshield that can tank but cant hit..
And why waste arma if it doesnt land good attack?
Demon hybrid build ftw.Leader of Cyanure on Valonsurma and a proud member of Vertu
Demon Strength Barbarian 103/103/101
Demon Pure Mag Cleric 102/102/101 | Demon 4 APS Assassin 102/102/101 | Demon Pure Mag Mystic 102/101/101 | Demon Pure Mag Psychic 100/100/93 | Demon 4 APS-Barbarian 100/100 | HA-venomancer 100 | DPH Assassin 100 | Pure Mag Wizard 100 | Demon Pure Mag Stormbringer 96 | Demon DPS Archer 94 | Sage Vit Barbarian 93 | Demon All-Path Blademaster 93 | Str Seeker 86 | Pure Mag Venomancer 81 | Pure Mag Wizard 81 | Pure Dex Duskblade 470 -
Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »I never counted these things too much or anything but I have to say I DO NOT REGRET statting 80 base dex. It couldd be even more. My culti is demon and the usefulness of additional crits + accuracy is very noteable. Just yesterday in NW I oneshotted sin with Bestial Onslaught that actually hitted.
1 additional crit-rate noteable? Don't tell me you were serious please. I can understand the accuracy is noteable, but you gotta explain something to me:
There a reason barbs get the most supply tokens in NW. We can TANK. Barbs get points in NW by taking damage, more like nothing of the damage we deal. If you're proud because you managed to 1 shot a few sins you ain't aiming for tokens, you aim for PK kills. I mentioned this before as well, dex barbs are ONLY useful when you're facing a sin. Not a coincidence that you managed to take advantage of a few sins.
All PVE content can be done with 19-20k HP and rest I need I can get from refines+gems. I believe in balanced characters, not in 50k HP barbs with crappy accuracy. Of course if you want to be a meatshield that can tank but cant hit..
It's not exactly a matter of what you want to be, it's a matter of what's useful and best. I don't understand what you trying to say with "balanced characters". Barbs were supposed to be the tank-class in PWI when it got released. This lasted for like two years before claw-barbs were discovered, we're talking about 2010/2011.
Today it's 2013, new gears and buffs exist. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it NOW you are supposed to take advantage of what exists today? The gear and stat difference is HUGE compared to 3-4 years ago when the gears were kind of "limited". In the past Assassins were the OP class with their stealth. What's OP today? Demon barbs with 50(+) HP who uses arma, logically.
And why waste arma if it doesnt land good attack?
First of all, demon barbs with full vit hits / got more accuracy than what ppl actually think. More HP = more damage with arma. It does land, and if it doesn't it's either because you timed it awfully bad or you're simply unlucky. On an another note, when I face sins I rather use demon roar or Ancestral Rage to kill them. When I face other classes I rather hit as much as I can with arma, it's not like I'm gonna miss on a caster.......
Demon hybrid build ftw.
Completely outdated.
In redz0 -
I want to post my experience. I play a claw barb.
First, i play jut for fun, so i looking for a build that like me to play.
In my opinion claw barb are awesome for pve and farming (TTs, etc), alot of hp and defense, nice buffs, can be 5 aps with r9r3, easy to find squad for all the dungeons.
For PvP i have more difficult. I dont like PK, but i do NW and sometimes TW. I see APS is about useless except when I have 1vs1 in NW. On TW is totally useless.
The good thing is that I have about 8000 accuracy and with tank gear I can do decent damage. But sincerely on PvP I prefer have 150 dex less (I have 200 total) to increase 150 vit.
On the DEX question i think that is useless put dex on a non-claw barb.
Demon VIT barb have anyway a decent accuracy because more demon skills have 100% success and a good critical hit. On sage I dont know.
After, if put full vit or str, is up to you.
I don’t mind if claw barb are considered out-dated, I like to play with aps and if I have a chance to come back I choose aps again. I disagree who say aps barb are bad. Depend what you like to play and how to play.
Btw don’t check my english, I know its bad xD0
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