What is wrong with you Nation War Marys

lamiasynn

I was talking with a friend I found it hilarious how she keep QQing about a few things that happen during Nation Wars.


1. Why do they have to spawn Kill cant they stop being weak and go find someone else to pick on?
2. Why do the high level high levels have to go after the lower levels and kill them.
3. I don't kill my friends when I see them in other nations sometimes we're standing side by side.

To which I replied

1. the Spawn killing thing is just a strategy the faster you get the enemy off the map the lower their over all resistance is yes it's annoying but with both charms on you respawn with 100% HP and MP stop being cheap it's war.

2. It's an all out pk event for players lv60+ no one has time to check another players levels and be fair, it's either defeat or victory just survive as best as you can and try to have fun.

3. Friends seriously ? Sorry but if you're not in MY nation for those 2 hrs friendship and guildmateship are out the window Kill me or be Killed.


So it makes me wonder just how many peace loving Marys actually join Nation Wars with this mentality and do people actually under stand the concept of Open Pk that's like being lv45 and going red name then QQing every time a high level 1 shots you after you leave the safe zone.

_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver

I'm guessing you and your friend aren't going to be much of friends when he/she finds this post b:chuckle

Anyway, let people play they want to play, who cares anymore.
Irony has it that you're QQ'ing just as much as the QQ'er at the moment. If anything just ignore it and play the way you want to play it, no one is going to change his or her mentality just because someone else thinks it's not right to play that way.

Zsw - Dreamweaver

As far as the friend problem goes, if they're really good friends, they should squad you and go with you instead. Otherwise, thats a different problem.

trands

1. Spawnkilling is indeed a strategy, but it's an a$$hole strategy. I think it's sad that there are so many that lower themselves to this kind of strategy just to win a game in a game. But well, everyone his own opinion. I find it cheap but can't get to bothered with it. Sometimes I'm in a bad mood, so I'll hunt them down the whole war. Most ot the time, spawnkillers drop fast as it's mostly the same kind being attracted by this kind of strategy.

An accidental spawnkill doesn't really bother me, especially at the moment the flag passes near a spawn area. Happens to everyone to tab poke someone who just spawned. But as real strategy, it's just low.

2. I don't kill low lvls, sov does that for me b:laugh But seriously, I never met any 60~99 complain they get killed. Pretty sure you made this up yourself. And honestly, the special buff does pretty good. They should just make that unable to be purged and given upon entering.

3. Please name me any faction that didn't list NW and both PK cube rooms as exceptions for their pk rules. Pretty sure you're making this up also. Almost anyone I know, either squads or is actually looking forward to face their friends/faction. Heck, if for whatever reason I'm not teamed up with my usual NW buddy and encounter him on the map, motivation is trippled for both of us.

But yeah, if you're spawnkilling, I do see the problem. Especially if point 1 and 3 come from the same person. You should always kill your friends with elegance and style, not with dirty tactics.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Gotta say, I agree with this thread. They're all old issues, but you'd think the people who have been complaining about them for 6 months would either avoid NW or adapt inside NW.


1. Why do they have to spawn Kill cant they stop being weak and go find someone else to pick on?

Every once in a while I cannot get away from spawn killing. I'm covering the flag carrier and running through the enemy flag spawns and people are attacking so I kill opponents. Alot of the times the same people I just killed respawn right next to me. What to do? Leave them be and not spawn kill? Spawn kill and be an a-hole? So I leave it up to them and I start running away but they always come after me and attack me. And why not? They start with around 15 seconds invincibility, 1 1/2 sparks, and buffs. Honestly, I'm at the disadvantage if I'm the one spawn killing. So they attack, I kill them, others respawn and attack... and I just can't get away from the people spawning around me.

Other time, the flag is covered, there are no enemies around, and I want points. I'm going to the spawn points until the next flag spawn. This is a competition of points. Killing my opponent helps me and the person I killed because damage taken also gives points.

Not to be an a-hole but just spawning is only a disadvantage when you spawn and there are 10 people waiting to kill you, and in that case you've already lost the war. Two choices: Use your invincibility and do as much DD as you can before you die (and soak up a ton of points and damage) or leave. Don't complain like you didn't have invincibility or the option to leave.

When I do NW I have two goals, just like everyone else:
1. Get as much contribution as I can.
2. Get as many nation points for my nation as I can.

Everyone is trying for those two things. Being nice and allowing my opponents to get a foothold really doesn't help me and costs me money in charm costs and NW contribution. Why would I pay my opponents to kill me?

2. Why do the high level high levels have to go after the lower levels and kill them.
Opponent gear cannot be seen in NW. Low levels can receive a crazy buff that boosts them to near level 100 stats.

Besides those two points, it is not my responsibility to take care of your low level character. If you think you are ready to NW, then have fun in NW. If you are at a disadvantage because you are too low level then that's your responsibility. Either accept that you are at a disadvantage when you NW, or don't NW. Don't NW and complain because things are exactly as you see them.

3. I don't kill my friends when I see them in other nations sometimes we're standing side by side.
I have a pretty extensive FL. The sad fact is ~75% of them will not be in my nation, but 25% of them will be. The ones I care about enough to not kill should be in my squad when we enter so we're in the same nation.

You should see faction chat during NW. We have people everywhere and its fun to hunt down your friends. I largely play because of the friends I have and playing against them is just as fun as playing with them. So is friendly trash talk, and after one of us dies a nice congratulatory "Goodjob man, impressive hit".

If you don't want to pvp against your friends, don't NW. You're hurting your own squad and nation by not attacking your opponent. You can be on opposite sides and still friendly and have fun.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

I tab and kill, I don't check lvl and name before DD on someone. If people cannot handle to be attack by a friend/guildmate/higher lvl then they should not go NW, they made it so we don't see the names for a reason and I won't waste my time clicking whisper on each person before attack people.

Sometime there's only 3 people in a war, I won't hold myselft to DD on them cause they are all 3 lvl 75.

NW = nations wars.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

lamiasynn wrote: »

I was talking with a friend I found it hilarious how she keep QQing about a few things that happen during Nation Wars.


1. Why do they have to spawn Kill cant they stop being weak and go find someone else to pick on?

Every kill is money in my pocket

2. Why do the high level high levels have to go after the lower levels and kill them.

You made the choice to enter an anonymous (technically) RPK event

3. I don't kill my friends when I see them in other nations sometimes we're standing side by side.

Good for her. She want a cookie?

To which I replied

1. the Spawn killing thing is just a strategy the faster you get the enemy off the map the lower their over all resistance is yes it's annoying but with both charms on you respawn with 100% HP and MP stop being cheap it's war.

2. It's an all out pk event for players lv60+ no one has time to check another players levels and be fair, it's either defeat or victory just survive as best as you can and try to have fun.

3. Friends seriously ? Sorry but if you're not in MY nation for those 2 hrs friendship and guildmateship are out the window Kill me or be Killed.


So it makes me wonder just how many peace loving Marys actually join Nation Wars with this mentality and do people actually under stand the concept of Open Pk that's like being lv45 and going red name then QQing every time a high level 1 shots you after you leave the safe zone.

Replies to the "friend" in red

I agree with OP, and this is coming from someone that hit level 70 with the start of NW and has been doing it since that time and is now a quarter done with G16

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

I'd rather get spawned killed and charmed ***** than getting ignored. that's how you get points, not by standing in the battlefield roleplaying romeo and juliet

Salari - Raging Tide

more trolling, the only people that can be spawn killed is those entering the instance for the first time. Everything else you got what 15 SECONDS TO MOVE YOUR MOUSE OR PRESS ARROW KEYS TO MOVE I MEAN COME ON HOW HARD CAN IT BE. Its simple, stop being lazy. If i can buff my own 85 psy and run around fly around and what not and not be spawn killed then you have more issues that you are not discussing.