How to PVP vs a Psychic
Zen_Archer - Heavens Tear
Posts: 17 Arc User
Week number 2 and I think psys would be fun to do since everyone seems to hate them. Again, I'm not a PK/TW/PVP master, but I do find certain things work well for me. Hopefully the community can build a good guide.
Repeated rules:
- Let's avoid QQing about one class is OP and can't be beat. No class is invulnerable.
- Always assume equal geared players...saying I just tab and one shot doesn't help anyone
- Take into account the specific skills and strengths of each class when answering
Annoying Because:
Soul of Stunning (& soul of vengeance to a lesser extent)
Voodoo makes them HARD to kill or hit HARD
That damn immune to physical damage skill is a pain
Lots of non-chi based AOEs
Relatively quick channeling
How I Kill
I find that magic classes are easier for me to deal with, on the whole, than most other classes; and when we are trading blows back and forth I can usually kill before being killed. (Which makes sense, I guess). Honestly, Psys I tend to use Quickshot and just auto attack. I don’t bother stunning at all, because they have that annoying skill that returns the stun back to me, basically making the stun worthless. Aim low from max distance, however, is an amazing skill that effectively stuns them while leaving you alone.
You have to know the icon for their physical immune skill and immediately switch to magic damage skills or run away as soon as you see it pop up. Generally speaking, if I wait to see the resists pop up above the psy’s head before switching or running it gives the psy an extra hit on me allowing them to take the damage output advantage and kill me.
Voodoos are another huge advantage of a psy, not because they are OP in their nature, but because both share the same icon and it throws a random variable into the mix. Is this going to be an extremely tanky opponent that won’t hit for much on you, or is this going to be a 1-2 shot opportunity that will 1-shot you if they hit first? Because you don’t know what you’ll be up against I find it helpful to toss out a test shot first, immediately run away a bit to see how much damage I did, and then respond accordingly. If the test shot does massive damage, they are likely black voodoo, meaning I need to pop some defensive apoth or genie skills to survive the onslought that’s coming. If I hit them for next to nothing, I can safely ignore them or possibly use them as a barrage target for people around them.
Regarding Soul of Vengeance, I tend to ignore it. Yes, it is annoying to take some damage, but with an equally geared opponent, I find the damage I take is minimal and popping an HP pot more than covers it.
In TW/NW:
A white voodo psy can make an extremely effective and annoying flag carrier/catapult puller in TW/NW. (Although it’s less likely you’ll see them pulling a catapult). In these instances spamming Frost Arrow and Aim Low is a necessity to keep them at a reasonable rate of speed or off the tower/crystal. This is also the one instance where stunning arrow might help, because although you stunned yourself, you’ve given teammates the ability to kill them. If a voodood psy is hanging out behind the enemy lines and attacking it’s a good bet they have black voodoo on and are using their teammates to absorb damage while they attack. Flanking them in this instance is important. Find a line of attack that does not have any enemies between you and the psy and proceed to blast their squishie ****!
Repeated rules:
- Let's avoid QQing about one class is OP and can't be beat. No class is invulnerable.
- Always assume equal geared players...saying I just tab and one shot doesn't help anyone
- Take into account the specific skills and strengths of each class when answering
Annoying Because:
Soul of Stunning (& soul of vengeance to a lesser extent)
Voodoo makes them HARD to kill or hit HARD
That damn immune to physical damage skill is a pain
Lots of non-chi based AOEs
Relatively quick channeling
How I Kill
I find that magic classes are easier for me to deal with, on the whole, than most other classes; and when we are trading blows back and forth I can usually kill before being killed. (Which makes sense, I guess). Honestly, Psys I tend to use Quickshot and just auto attack. I don’t bother stunning at all, because they have that annoying skill that returns the stun back to me, basically making the stun worthless. Aim low from max distance, however, is an amazing skill that effectively stuns them while leaving you alone.
You have to know the icon for their physical immune skill and immediately switch to magic damage skills or run away as soon as you see it pop up. Generally speaking, if I wait to see the resists pop up above the psy’s head before switching or running it gives the psy an extra hit on me allowing them to take the damage output advantage and kill me.
Voodoos are another huge advantage of a psy, not because they are OP in their nature, but because both share the same icon and it throws a random variable into the mix. Is this going to be an extremely tanky opponent that won’t hit for much on you, or is this going to be a 1-2 shot opportunity that will 1-shot you if they hit first? Because you don’t know what you’ll be up against I find it helpful to toss out a test shot first, immediately run away a bit to see how much damage I did, and then respond accordingly. If the test shot does massive damage, they are likely black voodoo, meaning I need to pop some defensive apoth or genie skills to survive the onslought that’s coming. If I hit them for next to nothing, I can safely ignore them or possibly use them as a barrage target for people around them.
Regarding Soul of Vengeance, I tend to ignore it. Yes, it is annoying to take some damage, but with an equally geared opponent, I find the damage I take is minimal and popping an HP pot more than covers it.
In TW/NW:
A white voodo psy can make an extremely effective and annoying flag carrier/catapult puller in TW/NW. (Although it’s less likely you’ll see them pulling a catapult). In these instances spamming Frost Arrow and Aim Low is a necessity to keep them at a reasonable rate of speed or off the tower/crystal. This is also the one instance where stunning arrow might help, because although you stunned yourself, you’ve given teammates the ability to kill them. If a voodood psy is hanging out behind the enemy lines and attacking it’s a good bet they have black voodoo on and are using their teammates to absorb damage while they attack. Flanking them in this instance is important. Find a line of attack that does not have any enemies between you and the psy and proceed to blast their squishie ****!
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imo Psys are the weakest caster class at r9rr stage, assuming both toons are equally geared, sharded u should be able to take down a psy quite easy. The key is you need to know what their skills icon look like and how white/black woodoo skills look.
Imo the best genie is a dex one with BoC+ will surge, eventually oxygen bubble.
btw lol @ " using frost arrow"0 -
Just knowing their buffs will make psy a whole lot easier. Genie is probably you're best friend against a psy.
Fortify is perfect against soul of stunning and consumes very little genie energy and will let you keep all sparks but should be only used if you're going to stun the target since your magic defense will most likely be reduced. Other ways are always the archer anti stuns but I prefer saving it for a more tricky situation.
Will surge is the best genie skill against Psy simply because their main defense is the silence, put it on and for the next 9 sec you should be able to pierce through a psy's defense and if you haven't killed him by that you might as well kite until you can use will surge again.
The Voodoo's aren't much of a problem IMO, its just their survivbility vs their damage. White voodoo psy will most likely have no chance of killing you and you will still have the possibility to kill it due to purge (if R9) whilst black voodoo makes them very vulnerable but increases their damage greatly.
Phys immune can be quite tricky and annoying but since you have blazing arrow, the best action would be just to stun it and move out of the way until the skill is over.
The AoE's aren't real much of a problem since you should be thinking of your own survival mainly.
PK Psy can be a pain but not really a difficult class to beat while in TW I find psy increadibly easy kill since they cant defend themselves as much when there are to many targets around.
NW wise, I would skill frost arrow and aim low since almost every AA has purify esp if they're going to carry the flag. I'd advice to just stun it and wait for others to help you DD it down asap or if you can handle it yourself, 2x spark and kill to make sure you kill it before it starts running in the speed of light. I haven't really faced any psy that can deliver the flag that well since they're p def aren't as high as the other AAs or able to heal as much so I can't say much about them in NW.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
im glad nobody looks at this stuff anymore, make my psy feel safe0
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Psys aren't that hard if you can kill them in the time alotted by Will Surge. In TW on my server I was hitting an r9 psy with my G15 bow and doing =<1K dmg per hit. It made him have to retreat a little, but in the 7 hits I landed Silence proc'd 5 times b:cryChannels
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poke till purge
bait him getting yourself stunned with his soul of stunning, when he switches to black badge will surge kill him0 -
im a full G16 sage archer with +7 bow (pure dex) , i can kill r9 2nd recast psych in 2 hits. i use sage quickshot + stealth + sage take aim (full charged).0
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People the thread aint about that " i can kill psychic easy" but its for those that wana know how kill them easier as an archer and are new against psychic so instead tell u can 1 shot or 2 shot sm1 tell what u do to kill them probably like a skill tactic lol.... so keep thread on topic not telling how op u areb:surrender i am a nub against psychic i maybe nt much pk but ya in duels its fast dead end. so tell in pk if u guys wana share ur precious knowledge abt it else dont replie..0
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