Picking Nirvy Fist Weapon

DeathenShada - Archosaur
DeathenShada - Archosaur Posts: 82 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Archer
I've been using Vanities for a long time but now coming back and the ability to make nirvy weapons cheaply i've been thinking about upgrading.

So I want to run and sell FC heads with my archer so I'm having a hard time deciding.

Decides -> ☆☆Traceless Dimension
Revenge: Has a chance to recover 5% HP,
and increase physical attack

VS

Decides -> ☆☆Peak of Clouds
Berserk: Has a chance to make the wielder go berserk, increasing
physical attack and attack rate along with damage taken


See I prefer Peak of clouds for the aesthetics but I'm worried about becoming to squishy with the increased damage, while Traceless will provide a "sorta BP"

Input what do you guys think?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2013
    First of all, are you a demon or a sage? I ask because the proc on fists will overwrite demon spark which is already something against it for them.

    That said, if you're a sage, you'd still be better off with the claws as the fist proc is... counterproductive unless you're at the level of gear where the increased damage you take doesn't mean much (and at that point you may as well go G16 for extra damage without hurting yourself in the process).

    And since we don't have BP, the proc on the fists is really... kinda horrible overall. If you'd prefer the aesthetics go for G16. But if you can't go G16 for whatever reason odds are the claws will be much better for you when all is said and done.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Berserk is bad. Its 20% attack speed increase will overwrite demon sparks attack speed buff and lower you from 5.0 to 4.0. The damage amp is +50% damage taken (aka -33% survivability). It only has +50% more weapon attack than a revenge proc (1/10th of a demon spark).

    That being said they are both obsolete now with g16 damage. At g16 they are both basically the same with the claw having slightly less str requirement. If you really want fist aesthetics get the g16 fist.

    EDIT: exactly what kossy wrote
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  • DeathenShada - Archosaur
    DeathenShada - Archosaur Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Ya, I am Demon and I had no idea. Thank you guys so much for filling me in on that, I think I will go claws for now because I'm still working on my regular g16 gear ie bow/armor. So it will be a while before I can get working on my secondary weapon.

    Both of you were a big help :)
  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    claws because 146 str instead of 153
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Wouldn't it be better to just make a sin and account stash gear to it?
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be better to just make a sin and account stash gear to it?

    The APS heyday has come and gone, why invest time and effort on an obsolete farming character? Besides, who wants to play a dirty sin anyway?
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be better to just make a sin and account stash gear to it?

    Except sins are ****. I'd rather my archer solo FC than my sin. Bosses take a bit longer, but at least I am not bored out of my mind. Pulls are quick and easy too, since stuff dies so fast.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The APS heyday has come and gone,
    I disagree from a farming aspect, he is not going to get claws/fists not to aps otherwise they would just stick with a bow b:chuckle
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  • Badazmofo - Dreamweaver
    Badazmofo - Dreamweaver Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Claws are definately a better choice due to the lower str requirement, however from personal experiance even 5.0ing with the g16 claws useing my g16 sling and the same interval gear I can out dps them pretty fast if I have CE + white teas (in a longer fight the claws will eventualy over take the sling however most fights dont last that long). Best of luck!
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I disagree from a farming aspect, he is not going to get claws/fists not to aps otherwise they would just stick with a bow b:chuckle

    What I meant was that aps farming is no longer important enough to justify building up an entire new character for. You can get by just fine with it as a side job of a character you actually enjoy playing.
  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What I meant was that aps farming is no longer important enough to justify building up an entire new character for. You can get by just fine with it as a side job of a character you actually enjoy playing.

    Oh yes, i agree with that for sure. My first char was a cleric, but now my main is my sin. But i use it to support my ever growing army of nablets
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