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  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't need any pats. And as I already said, why does people always remember if someone did something bad, but NEVER remembers what good the person did. Returning is the same as reversing the scam. Undoing the scam. And I noticed now that some of you who replied about my case, just likes to annoy me. Would any of you admit ever that you scammed? I think not because being popular seems to be everything to you. Specially Sassy/ss_ here. Get over it what I did. Some of you talk like I did the worlds most horrible thing now. How many scammers actually return the item, even when they get caught? I doubt none. And most of you are surely older than 20 years. then act like adults. And about my medication, yesterday I didn't have them, and I should have them at all times. Makes me calm and able to think correctly. And if this is so funny to you, grow up please. And now I am going to send a ticket about the case that I returned the item (fox mount). I wouldn't let people who are against me, to ruin my 4 years of PWI.
  • Samaela - Dreamweaver
    Samaela - Dreamweaver Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Good for you in returning it. We've all probably done something we regret, but that doesn't really change the fact that yes, you scammed and yes, you have to take the consequences of that action no matter how much you lost yourself in that moment. Still, you're a better person than most for apologising over it.
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  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    oVenusArmanio wrote: »
    I'd send in a ticket confirming you return the item.

    I forgot where can I send the ticket. Like, under what category?
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I still don't get the point of this. Even if you send it back, who cares? Nobody reported you and you didn't get banned so why send a ticket? Do you expect a cookie for doing the right thing after you did the wrong thing?

    "Yeah, I robbed a bank, but here's the money back, no hard feelings eh?"

    That's not how it works. You gave the item back, great for you, but no need to make it a public case. Reputation does not go away because of one good deed if you have a bad one. If you want it gone, reroll a new account. Only way to get rid of it 100%, that or quit for a year then come back so people completely forget about you seeing as you seem to be a no-name.

    I've had a reputation on Lothranis as a scammer, but that wasn't due to actually having scammed, it was just people hating on me. It spread even though I did nothing to confirm that I actually did scam, rumors spread. It happens, just move on and get over it. If you don't do anything to back up said rumors, they go away on their own.

    Silly OP, you're so silly.
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I still don't get the point of this. Even if you send it back, who cares? Nobody reported you and you didn't get banned so why send a ticket? Do you expect a cookie for doing the right thing after you did the wrong thing?

    "Yeah, I robbed a bank, but here's the money back, no hard feelings eh?"

    That's not how it works. You gave the item back, great for you, but no need to make it a public case. Reputation does not go away because of one good deed if you have a bad one. If you want it gone, reroll a new account. Only way to get rid of it 100%, that or quit for a year then come back so people completely forget about you seeing as you seem to be a no-name.

    I've had a reputation on Lothranis as a scammer, but that wasn't due to actually having scammed, it was just people hating on me. It spread even though I did nothing to confirm that I actually did scam, rumors spread. It happens, just move on and get over it. If you don't do anything to back up said rumors, they go away on their own.

    Silly OP, you're so silly.

    Oh and when you have something to say then its suddenly very important? I can't wait to get to reply to your threads, and I think yes they reported me, they told me so. And I think people here have right to know what I did, and right to know that it wont happen again. And that doesn't make any sense, reputation goes right away down when I do bad, but when I do good then it doesn't? Why is it that in PWI, bad is stronger than good? Its wrong to care only about what bad deed the person did and never acknowledge the good deed. Just so wrong.
  • Samaela - Dreamweaver
    Samaela - Dreamweaver Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh and when you have something to say then its suddenly very important? I can't wait to get to reply to your threads, and I think yes they reported me, they told me so. And I think people here have right to know what I did, and right to know that it wont happen again. And that doesn't make any sense, reputation goes right away down when I do bad, but when I do good then it doesn't? Why is it that in PWI, bad is stronger than good? Its wrong to care only about what bad deed the person did and never acknowledge the good deed. Just so wrong.

    Bad does in general give you more of a reputation than being good. Most people are good and help people out, so it's not really that note worthy.

    Also, a good action does not cancel out a bad one. That's not how life works. If you mess up, things are well, messed up. Eventually they will be fine again, but not instantly because did a good deed right after.
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  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Others repeating my bad deed doesn't really help either.

    But where do I send the ticket about the case that I sent the item back. My inventory doesn't have any stolen item anymore and its in owners pet bag for sure again.
  • Samaela - Dreamweaver
    Samaela - Dreamweaver Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Others repeating my bad deed doesn't really help either.

    But where do I send the ticket about the case that I sent the item back. My inventory doesn't have any stolen item anymore and its in owners pet bag for sure again.

    https://support.perfectworld.com/app/ask

    There (:
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh and when you have something to say then its suddenly very important? I can't wait to get to reply to your threads, and I think yes they reported me, they told me so. And I think people here have right to know what I did, and right to know that it wont happen again. And that doesn't make any sense, reputation goes right away down when I do bad, but when I do good then it doesn't? Why is it that in PWI, bad is stronger than good? Its wrong to care only about what bad deed the person did and never acknowledge the good deed. Just so wrong.

    If it happened between you and another person it isn't anyone's business but yours, theirs, and the proper law enforcement (in this case PWE.) I don't pretend that some of the things I say are important, but you have this misguided notion that this is. You can't compare me to yourself because I don't post about things that nobody is really affected by and pretend that it's important. It isn't that bad is stronger than good, it's that you're just behaving pretty stupidly in thinking this makes any real difference one way or the other.

    It's cool if you returned a scammed item, but nobody here needed to know that. It's cool if you post about it, but don't pretend it's important.
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'll have to agree with Zan and a few others here.
    Its nice that you returned what you stole, but was there really a need to make the act a topic for public discussion? For what purpose? This could have just as easily been discussed on your server's World Chat or even Sanct's Server Discussion.

    I also wouldn't quite class what you did as a "good deed" either...you rectified what you've now decided to be a mistake, but a fix doesn't equate to a good deed. If you expect others to simply forgive and forget, then you're delusional. They'll forgive, but they'll remember too...
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  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    However anyone takes this. To some its important to know, to some its not. And if this is wrong place to talk about it, MOD would have moved this topic to another place already.
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Bah. A good person doesn't scam in the first place. And giving the stuff back afterwards doesn't make it a good deed either.
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  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I am good person. I normally wouldn't do that -.- If I would be a bad person, I would have scammed ages ago. Comon, I have been registered to PWI for almost 4 years, I had plenty of time. Things like this just happens sometimes.
  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Everything in the original and further things.

    For one, it doesn't reverse what you did. Especially depending on the order things happened in. It seems the post is less about being sorry, and more about not dealing with the consequences you were told to expect from what you did. And all this is an attempt to get away with scamming, and the return more about trying to not get in trouble. At least when everything is read in one go through.

    Haven't scammed since started playing the game, actually avoid group play to stay away from all that annoying junk. And been playing since 3 weeks after first servers started, so it is possible to play without ever scamming for a long time.

    Most likely it would be just a 3 day or week ban if you've only done it once, anyways. If you actually were remorseful, you wouldn't have an issue with such a minor punishment when you know you did wrong. So accept it like an adult, and don't do it in the future. Problem solved, and no need for all the drama. Because if you are good, you won't have to worry what the next step would be if it re-occurs.
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Things like this just happens sometimes.
    While i dont like to see how this tread derailed by people flaming you and you defendign yourself, this is not right.

    Things like this happen once in your life. Never again.

    And indeed, it is not fixed by one forum post. It helps to fix things, but it takes time nonetheless.
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Others here made me to go little bit off-topic because they seem to have hard time to understand what I came here to say. The point is, it was my first time so of course for me this big thing. Maybe I am overreacting too much. Just my nature. And others just start to say things about me like they know me, because of one wrong doing.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Overreacting?
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Overreacting?

    If you didn't know (basic school stuff) people have different natures. And what are you doing in my thread? Leave.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If you didn't know (basic school stuff) people have different natures. And what are you doing in my thread? Leave.

    It's not your thread, it's the people's thread. It's posted in a public domain in which various uses, myself included, may read and post as they please so long as they abide by the rules. I have as much right to be here as you, so long as I do not blatantly disregard the rules. Which I am not doing.

    tl;dr, make me.
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It's not your thread, it's the people's thread. It's posted in a public domain in which various uses, myself included, may read and post as they please so long as they abide by the rules. I have as much right to be here as you, so long as I do not blatantly disregard the rules. Which I am not doing.

    tl;dr, make me.

    I was just being you. You said in your thread to me to leave lol. Calm down
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I was just being you. You said in your thread to me to leave lol. Calm down

    I did not try to force you to leave, or even ask you. I simply gave you a choice my kind sir. Which, as I can see you chose to leave and cease your trolling of my thread. Good on you.
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I did not try to force you to leave, or even ask you. I simply gave you a choice my kind sir. Which, as I can see you chose to leave and cease your trolling of my thread. Good on you.

    And you are not trolling my thread? Everything you say in this thread just annoys me, and you are doing it on purpose. I didn't try to get away from scamming by making this thread. This thread was supposed to be for the purpose of telling people that I am sorry. Because I felt I disappointed all players of PWI, but the people as you just came here to flame and troll.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I am awaiting the details of the sexual conclusion of this heated back-and-forth. keep us posted.
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I am awaiting the details of the sexual conclusion of this heated back-and-forth. keep us posted.

    Yes of course, Sashagray..... b:laugh (my veno got the same name btw, im afraid it was not a very original name :))
  • GumyBear - Raging Tide
    GumyBear - Raging Tide Posts: 365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    f:sweat
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  • Kitkate - Dreamweaver
    Kitkate - Dreamweaver Posts: 869 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I am awaiting the details of the sexual conclusion of this heated back-and-forth. keep us posted.

    Me too. Keep this drama coming. Love ya Zan ;3 lol.

    Btw. Ive been here 5 years and never scammed someone. This isn't something that "just happens sometimes". If you were a good person, it wouldn't of happened at all. Family issues and whatnot are not an excuse to scam someone. Giving back the item does not make up for the fact that you took it in the first place    .
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  • FieryBlade - Harshlands
    FieryBlade - Harshlands Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Me too. Keep this drama coming. Love ya Zan ;3 lol.

    Btw. Ive been here 5 years and never scammed someone. This isn't something that "just happens sometimes". If you were a good person, it wouldn't of happened at all. Family issues and whatnot are not an excuse to scam someone. Giving back the item does not make up for the fact that you took it in the first place    .

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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I am awaiting the details of the sexual conclusion of this heated back-and-forth. keep us posted.

    Wanna join in?
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Me too. Keep this drama coming. Love ya Zan ;3 lol.

    Btw. Ive been here 5 years and never scammed someone. This isn't something that "just happens sometimes". If you were a good person, it wouldn't of happened at all. Family issues and whatnot are not an excuse to scam someone. Giving back the item does not make up for the fact that you took it in the first place    .

    Seriously, you don't know me at all. Of course this can happen sometimes. And my family issues is not an excuse, it was the truth. I have done bad things before because of it, but outside of any game. Now I was in PWI in wrong time. Again you people talk like you know me 100%. Get real

    And in case if you didn't read other peoples replies, they brought the drama here. I had completely different intentions about this thread. Get your facts right.
  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Nature_God - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously, you don't know me at all. Of course this can happen sometimes. And my family issues is not an excuse, it was the truth. I have done bad things before because of it, but outside of any game. Now I was in PWI in wrong time. Again you people talk like you know me 100%. Get real

    ........why did you even make this thread if you didn't want this to happen did you seriousily not foresee this happening, I mean come on just look at who we have as active forum people!? And you can't expect to go on any normal forum and do this sort of thing and expect some 'metaphorical pat on the back' instead of trolling that'd be like if there was a specific thread/forum for those people in a community and just. I wasn't going to say anything but this is still going after six pages and it's completely ridiculous x_x
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