Advanced Grinding Machine Bugged [again?]

bluestuffzzz

SirLancalot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i really love how worthless most of the mods are aswell as the gms are for this game

honestly dont care what they take of what i just said or do about it its the truth

but heres some thoughts... since none of you all seem to know how to code very well or even fix a simple issue with 1 thing... (and quit a lot fo other issues that have been in this game for several years now that still arnt fixed)

Why not just removed rough flesh from the game and the files all together and make the thiong only able to craft the perfect flesh 100% of the time without fail >.>;

dont just change the %s of the craft or make it to where it has a high chance just remove the **** all together and be done with it since you cant fix the issue

Odd. That phrase seems rather one-sided and relative, doesn't it? One person may see moderating forums as something that is needed so na.ked pictures, spam, and trolls don't roam freely. This also allows for players to interact with other players & PWE staff over the forums.

On the other hand, what did you expect? A mod works for free, from home, as a volunteer. They don't speak to the Chinese developers over in China, and at best - they can only contact the CM/GMs over the forums and in PMs over the forums.

Don't act like they owe you something because your upset that this quest isn't working like it's supposed too. We all want it fixed, but being ignorant isn't going to solve the bug.

SirLancalot - Heavens Tear

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

Odd. That phrase seems rather one-sided and relative, doesn't it? One person may see moderating forums as something that is needed so na.ked pictures, spam, and trolls don't roam freely. This also allows for players to interact with other players & PWE staff over the forums.

On the other hand, what did you expect? A mod works for free, from home, as a volunteer. They don't speak to the Chinese developers over in China, and at best - they can only contact the CM/GMs over the forums and in PMs over the forums.

Don't act like they owe you something because your upset that this quest isn't working like it's supposed too. We all want it fixed, but being ignorant isn't going to solve the bug.

still dont retract anything ive said its more or less the truth. i may have short handded the mod a little but still The Fact on the GMs and Codders still stands they are worthless considering after all these years they still have yet to find a perm ix for a lot of the issues in this game which is quite sad. Considering when fake serves run smoother and better which again is very sad

Dont say it couse they have to mange so meny games and cant devot time to one of them like those who make fake servers. Thats there own fault then they shouldnt make other games till the ones they have work like they should instead of half a$$ing them all like there doing

I dont think they owe me something personaly. They owe there players something considering they take things away and put in a quest that dosnt even work. Aswell as stated before the issues that have been in this game for years that still have not been addressed

burntid420

L76 Mystic Archosaur 8:15 P.M. EST.Tried harversting 46 times, all rough flesh.

LadyMara - Raging Tide

So, Last update the grinding machine got fixed on Sanctuary server b:victory

But I guess the price to pay is, it's now broken on Raging tidesb:cry

Just take the Rough Flesh and the % option away completely, all the other level brackets for the jolly jones dailies don't have a '% chance' why does this one have to?b:surrender

Whatsinaname - Dreamweaver

b:angry maint done and still not fixed the grinding machine on Morai server..

Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721

Kitty ish angry now. Advanced Grinding Machine is still broken on Raging Tides. DO WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE 3RD WEEK IN A ROW WITH DECREASED INCOME?f:fume

/CAPS

TechDawg - Sanctuary

It's not just Raging Tides or Morei, as of the Shutdown last night, Sanctuary's Advanced Grinding Machine has reverted back to the 'Broken' State.. Only producing Rough Flesh.

- What I don't understand is that last week, they fixed Sanctuary without a content patch which would make me believe this doesn't need to wait for some maintenance night, just flip the switch and turn on on 100% until some hard code can be put in to correct this issue permanently.

Mazumii - Dreamweaver

10:30 est Maine time lol and the machine is ****** broke....errr fix it now gm,mods, owners, whoever. 6/5/13 DW server fix it now!

Perouze - Sanctuary

broken, again
Now I won't say anything rude about perfect flesh farmers anymore... I will be one of them once it is fixed!

vukodlak14

Perouze - Sanctuary wrote: »

broken, again
Now I won't say anything rude about perfect flesh farmers anymore... I will be one of them once it is fixed!

This^

Still you don't need to be annoying like some people farming it, when someone that needs approach, let him dig 3, then continue, I saw some people do this and I did not mind at all that they are farming as long as they let me dig my 3 : )

Perouze - Sanctuary

vukodlak14 wrote: »

This^

Still you don't need to be annoying like some people farming it, when someone that needs approach, let him dig 3, then continue, I saw some people do this and I did not mind at all that they are farming as long as they let me dig my 3 : )

Absolutely agree

Praxalis - Archosaur

Any word on have they manually fixed this again? Not to be one of the many flesh stalker farmers on my alt but b:chuckle

Fabuleux - Lost City

SirLancalot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

still dont retract anything ive said its more or less the truth. i may have short handded the mod a little but still The Fact on the GMs and Codders still stands they are worthless considering after all these years they still have yet to find a perm ix for a lot of the issues in this game which is quite sad. Considering when fake serves run smoother and better which again is very sad

Dont say it couse they have to mange so meny games and cant devot time to one of them like those who make fake servers. Thats there own fault then they shouldnt make other games till the ones they have work like they should instead of half a$$ing them all like there doing

I dont think they owe me something personaly. They owe there players something considering they take things away and put in a quest that dosnt even work. Aswell as stated before the issues that have been in this game for years that still have not been addressed

I really just want to hurt you. You clearly have no idea how coding works, do you? CODING BREAKS. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. Whether it be for a video game, a website, etc. EVERYTIME you add or change something to that coding, something else will break. How you are acting is completely disrespectful.

How do you know that the Rough Flesh won't be used for something else that just hasn't been brought over from China yet? China put it in there for a reason. Just remember that.

The GMs do fix issues. I've seen so many things fixed (not so much good. I don't know who fiddled with the second frost boss but that was mean ). You're just QQing.

Oh and FYI, those fake servers are actually illegal. Those files are not obtained through correct means and PWI does not give them a license. Which is why those websites state you can't enter those websites if you work for PWE. Fake servers also remove A LOT from the source codes. You'll find not many of their GMs are coders. At all.

PWE will hire different coders for different games and different GMs for different games. And what are these issues you keep talking about? Start listing some instead of just saying there's other major issues that haven't been fixed.

PajatheTrut - Raging Tide

Well, it's been 3 or 4 maintenance's and the machine is still not working,it's getting a bit annoying,today i got 4quests with the machine,and i had to dump all of them... Can it really be THAT hard to fix one bug ?

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

PajatheTrut - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well, it's been 3 or 4 maintenance's and the machine is still not working,it's getting a bit annoying,today i got 4quests with the machine,and i had to dump all of them... Can it really be THAT hard to fix one bug ?

You're talking about the people that took almost 5 months to change 4 characters in one line of code to fix the Secret Passage PvP status.

I'm certain this is more involved than that. I mean, they've got to change multiple values in the spawn table for crying out loud. </sarcasm>

Mystflower - Dreamweaver

The advanced grinding machine is broken on Dreamweaver too. Today I got 4 AGM quests but I keep getting rough flesh. Not a single perfect flesh came out. b:surrender

Canis_Regis - Raging Tide

On-Topic :
I haven't been able to dig perfect flesh for about a month so far, both in RT and morai.One week i could dig, next i couldn't. I noticed they don't dissappear so then i stacked drops for 3 quests each day, for the next following week. This worked, like kitty said, then i ended up for a whole month without perfects.

Off-Topic but still kind of ontopic:
-- PWCN may want to limit guaranteed income so they implement a self-recurring method that makes sure at every game start, the % chance for x item to drop is set to a constant
----this means if you alter file for drop values and run game, sure it will work once, but next time it will reset itself
----the file or method or batch file, whatever resets the value GMs change may come together with patcher trying to update
-- funny to see this perfect flesh fight be similar to how people used to fight over who gets to kill oracle bosses
--the idea of limiting each lvl range per account is similar to BHs, probably copy-pasted code from there? when you hit a new lvl range, you can do more bhs of that lvl, even if you just did the previous lvl range bhs....and stack the quests, even by turning lower range bhs in. IT IS A GOOD IDEA as in you don't want people to have accounts with 8 lvl 80s farming coins for another account, you could work that to get better rewards than even bh100 gives now, which is crappy but acceptable once you have a decent number of ALTs. And i do have some alts because i can't find people i can trust to farm with...or simply people to farm with nowadays.
(example : lvl 69 turns in bh3, levels up to 70, turns in bh2 from lvl 60 range, gets bh3 for lvl 70+ range, turns in bh1 from lvl 60 range, gets bh2 from lvl 70 range)

TL;DR version (and personal opinion):
talk to devs, it's definitely controlled droprate, not bug.

Salari - Raging Tide

Fabuleux - Lost City wrote: »

I really just want to hurt you. You clearly have no idea how coding works, do you? CODING BREAKS. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. Whether it be for a video game, a website, etc. EVERYTIME you add or change something to that coding, something else will break. How you are acting is completely disrespectful.

That is how bad coding and no or limited qt testing works. Further more, problems that have existed since before beta have not been touched or altered just to "work" instead of just fixing the problem. The goon glitch and the pq3 glitch are perfect examples of this. With the simplest of the 2 the pq3 glitch all was needed is to change the item that is put in your inventory, to be put in the quest inventory instead. But no, just nerf the exp.

If a company has time work on new releases to the game, it has time to fix pre-existing problems. It gets no harder than that.

Salari - Raging Tide

Fabuleux - Lost City wrote: »

Oh and FYI, those fake servers are actually illegal. Those files are not obtained through correct means and PWI does not give them a license. Which is why those websites state you can't enter those websites if you work for PWE. Fake servers also remove A LOT from the source codes. You'll find not many of their GMs are coders. At all.

NOTE: When I refer to PW-CN, I am refering to the company that licenses out the PW game.

You are actually wrong on this in one aspect. At one time (and probably still today) you can buy a license to run a private server, they even had a page on their site in China devoted to it and would help you to set it up if need be. While there are a lot(most more than likely) private servers that are ran without a license, there are some out there that are ran with one. The main difference in say PWE and a legally licensed private server, is PWE is a officially sanctioned company to represent and publish PW-CN's game for the western world. While a private server licensed legally is allowed to operate as it sees fit ( pay to play, donation, cash based items boutique and so on) with a royalty paid back to PW-CN it is more than likely wont ever be sanctioned as a official release. Free to play versions may not have any type of royalty pay, but I am not well versed in PW-CN's licensing( can someone find cit for this).

There have been quite a few leaks of the game executable from various official sources either by being cracked into or employees possibly copying and releasing the game files, or even from privately licensed editions. This game is mostly Database driven, meaning it pulls all its info from the game files and is not hardcoded into any executable files (exe,dll,dl_ ect). Tools were made to extract and read what was in the game files to be able to make custom maps,mobs,bosses and so on. The source code is not needed for this. pwdb is a good example of this and other sites that pull directly from the game files. You could make an emulator without even needing the server files as long as you can debug and Understandthe game code disassembled. A lot of private servers are made this way(not just pw).

More than likely the "stripping of game code" is actually disabled or edited map files and similar to remove unneeded material from their version of the game.

" Which is why those websites state you can't enter those websites if you work for PWE"
I have seen this before, but I have no idea why they do this, there is probably some vague law in the US or international law this applies to.

And lastly, PWI does not license out the PW game, they are licensed to Publish it. Any licensing would come from PW-CN.