Clearing Up Rank 8 "Wedding Candies" Gear

Apostasy - Raging Tide
Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Psychic
Due to past posts, and oops on my part and others' parts...

Here's the fact.

The R8 wrist and feet are 100 wedding candies each when you first get them.

After you've done the 100 wedding candies once, they are from then on in only 1 mil to buy again.

b:bye
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Now we just need a reason to want that crappy gear.
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  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Now we just need a reason to want that crappy gear.

    Do it for Trayvon.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Now we just need a reason to want that crappy gear.

    Because only with r8r gears can a Psy achieve 10k+ base phys def, 16k+ ele resists, -45% chan, +41% crit rate (technically, as high as 60% crit or more if the r8r weapon is considered), 12k+ hps, and better atk/def lvls than r9.1 - all as BASE stats, and all rolled into one package b:chuckle
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  • Zanryu - Lothranis
    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Because only with r8r gears can a Psy achieve 10k+ base phys def, 16k+ ele resists, -45% chan, +41% crit rate (technically, as high as 60% crit or more if the r8r weapon is considered), 12k+ hps, and better atk/def lvls than r9.1 - all as BASE stats, and all rolled into one package b:chuckle

    Just missing the obscenely, stupidly, retardedly high amount of attack and defense levels. And Purify Spell. And obscenely, stupidly, retardely high amount of attack and defense levels.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »
    Just missing the obscenely, stupidly, retardedly high amount of attack and defense levels. And Purify Spell. And obscenely, stupidly, retardely high amount of attack and defense levels.

    some of us dont want to be bored... and dont actually need the purify proc... the way i see it, if other classes can do without the purify proc and still compete vs the purify proc'd, then so can i... so to each their own. This thread was simply a matter of information, take it as that or take it and stick it b:bye b:kiss b:kiss
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  • Zanryu - Lothranis
    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    some of us dont want to be bored... and dont actually need the purify proc... the way i see it, if other classes can do without the purify proc and still compete vs the purify proc'd, then so can i... so to each their own. This thread was simply a matter of information, take it as that or take it and stick it b:bye b:kiss b:kiss

    Well, to be fair anyone with half a break could figure that out. But alrighty kind sir. Whatever you want is fine for PvE honestly, but when it comes to PvP you're gonna get facerolled in anything under R9R3. If getting two shot left and right is your idea of "fun" then by all means, have at it. I'm not gonna stop you.

    I never did understand why people intentionally use worse gear than they could, but then again I think differently. You can use whatever you want, it's not my place to try to stop you. You go girlfriend!
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    some of us dont want to be bored... and dont actually need the purify proc... the way i see it, if other classes can do without the purify proc and still compete vs the purify proc'd, then so can i... so to each their own. This thread was simply a matter of information, take it as that or take it and stick it b:bye b:kiss b:kiss

    Lemme guess: You're demon Psy, too?
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Lemme guess: You're demon Psy, too?

    YES. b:pleased And as a Demon Psy, I do plenty fine... i wish we could server verse server to show you b:surrender
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    YES. b:pleased And as a Demon Psy, I do plenty fine... i wish we could server verse server to show you b:surrender

    Comedy gold.
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Comedy gold.

    And then they kiss?
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And then they kiss?

    Blasphemy!
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Blasphemy!

    But I can have sex with them, right?
  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Apostasy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Due to past posts, and oops on my part and others' parts...

    Here's the fact.

    The R8 wrist and feet are 100 wedding candies each when you first get them.

    After you've done the 100 wedding candies once, they are from then on in only 1 mil to buy again.

    b:bye

    I heard the rumor about only needing to buy 100 candies(costs around 20M coin) and I may have been guilty of spreading this false rumor. But like OP said you need to buy the 100 candies twice.

    Overall I've found R8r more expensive than I thought it would be. The fees for turning NW Supply Tokens into mats is a burden. From memory it takes 400 tokens to recast a R8 wep and it costs 10M to convert the tokens into mats. And then a 20M fee to do the recasting. It takes 170 tokens to make the mats to recast armor and 5M in fees to convert tokens to mats and then a 10M fee to recast.

    So its more than I expected.
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  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    r8 wrist+boots can cost 10m ea if you are patient with buying candy for 100k instead of 200k.

    But the cost of r8r and the range of stats you can get on it...you're better off just going g16 nirvana or r9rr.



    "Because only with r8r gears can a Psy achieve 10k+ base phys def, 16k+ ele resists, -45% chan, +41% crit rate (technically, as high as 60% crit or more if the r8r weapon is considered), 12k+ hps, and better atk/def lvls than r9.1 - all as BASE stats, and all rolled into one package"

    I'm not sure in what world only r8r psys can have 10k+ base phys.def because you can have 10k phys def with r9 recast, and obviously r9 2nd recast is even better. Even if you spend large amounts of money to get above 30% crit rate with r8r, you can spend that money to get r9rr, have 25%+ crit rate, way way more att/def levels and way way more damage.

    So why the ** would anybody want to go r8r nowadays when you've got g16 and r9rr? It's pretty clear Apostasy was never good in any game he's played.



    @to a previous comment not understanding why ppl choose to wear worse gear - so you don't lose the edge, if all you do is fight people that can't scratch you whereas you one shot them left n right, you aren't really going to do well once you meet somebody of equal gear.

    Obviously in NWs and TWs you'd need to be a moron not to use best gear, but if you wish to practice pvp then matching your opponent's gear makes far more sense than feeding your ego by beating a guy with three times the gear he has.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Being I already have been beating r9.1s 1v1 (in r8r gear thats not statted as i want yet and my fail r6 sphere), im not really concerned about r9.3 with my target gears b:chuckle
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  • Wickedbrew - Raging Tide
    Wickedbrew - Raging Tide Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You have to be a moron to not use the best gear in TW and NW? Being that the best gear is r9.2 or whatever its called now, plus refines, and sharding...that gets expensive, for those who don't care to farm or merchant.

    And considering this game brings in less new players than the old players that are leaving, causing a decrease in population over time, I personally would rather have less than stellar gear, and more money in my real life pocket because no one knows when the plug would be pulled on the game, and even if it lasts a few more years, the population is not the healthiest.

    I can afford the best gear in the game, but I would only consider it if PWI can figure out a way to bring in fresh blood, and a LOT of it. They need to do something, but in a game that is as old as PW, wanmei seems hellbent on milking the end game, and little else.
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  • Zymari - Archosaur
    Zymari - Archosaur Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This is because pwi is run by money hungry morons. If they had half a brain, they would cut the cost of mats by over half on r9 and all recast mats, make r10 and g17(upgrade able from g16) drop the cost to change supply token and tt gold mats when chipped. Then all the people that don't play these games for the simple fact that they don't want to spend $1k rl money on a game might actually flock it.
    Oh, and making the instances not take 2+ hours to run without wine or high levels would help too. Who has that kind of time to waste. Another good addition would be allowing you to move toons or accounts to other servers.
  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Wickedbrew - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You have to be a moron to not use the best gear in TW and NW?

    Or you can miss the point. I said you should always use best gear for NW/TW, so if that's g16 nirvy for you or tt90, of course you aren't going to use tt70 just because you want a bigger "challenge" or "dislike people who use x gear".


    @Apostasy you've gotta be one of the dumbest psys out there, which is no easy feat, if r9r and r9rr don't concern you with your r8r plans - you beat a r9 psy? Wow good job, guess what, nobody gives a ** about r9 any more nor uses it, everybody who has r9 is going for recast gear which guess what, **** you all night long, so gl budd.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »
    @Apostasy you've gotta be one of the dumbest psys out there, which is no easy feat, if r9r and r9rr don't concern you with your r8r plans - you beat a r9 psy? Wow good job, guess what, nobody gives a ** about r9 any more nor uses it, everybody who has r9 is going for recast gear which guess what, **** you all night long, so gl budd.

    lol... given my gear set up and stats right now... I have plenty of "improvement room"... such that if i am already beating r9.1s... wtf do i care about r9.3s when i do reach my target gears?... you can BS all day long but the fact remains people dont seem to understand what i am working with... lemme show you... THIS is exactly where I am at RIGHT NOW. (and yes, I made some modifications in order to give the actual stats I have in game where the pwcalc doesnt allow) and my target gear is FAR superior to where i am currently at... so talk ur BS cause that really is all you can do, or come on down and show me b:sin

    Here's an idea b:cute... jump on raging tide forums and ask about Apostasy... sure, plenty of trolls there will bs all kinds of ****, or people that themselves have r9.3 already saying im a one shot. Filter them out and you can make your own decisions based on that and without my needing to say a single word. b:shutup b:bye b:laugh
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  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I do not care, your posts have already revealed your skill level.

    P.S. You need more channeling.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    oh good, i must have done something right in a past life. no idea what that coulda been... ur both on the same server... b:chuckle
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  • Dragdoor - Dreamweaver
    Dragdoor - Dreamweaver Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    can you do up a pwcalc on the r8r build you want Apostasy
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Dragdoor - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    can you do up a pwcalc on the r8r build you want Apostasy

    Sure... here it is... you need to also add +2% to my current and end builds for true crit rate due to my being demon.

    when you consider what im already doing with what i have now, im pretty sure what im shooting for will do quite nicely ;p
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  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So basically you'll spend a decade trying to get those stats on r8rr and ornaments, still with this virtually impossible to obtain gear you'll have 44att/31def base with 12.7k hp in comparison to r9rr who has ~110att/50def base and 15k+ hp.

    So yes sure, by all means go for it - oh and yea, your 20-22k dmg sure looks good in comparison to r9rr 24-28k+. Your whole build is very misleading, you're basically showing the best stats you can get on all gear along with everything else you're unlikely to have.

    There are just two viable builds atm - g16 nirvana if you're poor and r9rr if you can farm/afford it. Anything else is for idiots.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »
    So basically you'll spend a decade trying to get those stats on r8rr and ornaments, still with this virtually impossible to obtain gear you'll have 44att/31def base with 12.7k hp in comparison to r9rr who has ~110att/50def base and 15k+ hp.

    So yes sure, by all means go for it - oh and yea, your 20-22k dmg sure looks good in comparison to r9rr 24-28k+. Your whole build is very misleading, you're basically showing the best stats you can get on all gear along with everything else you're unlikely to have.

    There are just two viable builds atm - g16 nirvana if you're poor and r9rr if you can farm/afford it. Anything else is for idiots.

    So who becomes the bigger idiot? The idiot looking to achieve the "anything else" or the idiots that get killed by that "anything else"...

    G16 is a conglomerate of **** comparable to the r9.1 gears only in atk and def lvl bonuses, and some extra base pdef and ele resists... and i kill those G16 geared plenty already... and i have been doing so since i only had 29 atk lvls and 5121 hps... i have 39 atk lvls base now and 6068-ish hps... i will have 131 atk lvls base (and take a look at the atk lvls in black voodoo with jones instead of malley's) when i am done and almost 13k hps (and i know how to actually play a psy, utilizing both voodoos and swapping blessings)...

    AND... i will most certainly get those stats i want. It took me at least 150 rerolls to get the 10/10 mgc/vit max stats on my dragon rise wrists when i made those... but i got them eventually... its my obsessive compulsive and stubborn ways that get me where i want to be eventually. And the 65 atk lvls and 10 chan max stats on the warsoul recast are by far easier to achieve than the r9rr 65 atk lvls with 10 chan hands down. Once that is done, the r8r gears will be easier to get where i want them (where they are right now is simply what ill settle for till my weapon is done)...

    in the end it only comes down to sharding and refines... once that is max'd, only skill between the two players decides the outcome with very little luck involved... realistically, however, you can say whatever you like... everyone is entitled to their opinion... perhaps one day you will show me how shabby my end game set up is on your server b:sin
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  • Dragdoor - Dreamweaver
    Dragdoor - Dreamweaver Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Thanks for the info
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Dragdoor - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Thanks for the info

    You... are welcome b:cute
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  • TheDendra - Harshlands
    TheDendra - Harshlands Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited April 2013
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »
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    Because it takes so much effort to right click the image, click open image in new tab, then copy and past that link.
  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    With a crit rate like that you're about 19% cumulative higher than most endgame sage psy's. Your mag attack however is incredibly gimped for endgame, about 2/3 what it could be, and 20% lower hp, lower atk/def levels... All in all your build looks on par with r9.1 for the price tag of r9.3 or higher. Meh.

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