Best cultivation for each class in NW/TW.

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  • _Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary
    _Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Pure stupidity.

    These are all opinions, opinions cannot form answers in any form. People play different classes and cultivations as they like them best, eg. I love Demon barbs and I think they are awesome, but others go pfff... they're only good if you go 5APS.
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    _Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Pure stupidity.

    These are all opinions, opinions cannot form answers in any form. People play different classes and cultivations as they like them best, eg. I love Demon barbs and I think they are awesome, but others go pfff... they're only good if you go 5APS.

    It's not Pure Stupidity, I wanted to have an insight on peoples' opinions.
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  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Cleric culti has pretty devisive benefits:

    Sage cleric is better at:

    Vanguard Spirit
    Magic Shell
    Tempest half the time

    Whereas Demon cleric is better at:.

    Spirit's Gift
    Plume Shell
    Silent/Chromatic seal

    Occasionally you get an idiot claiming sage is better than demon on plume shell, but even in 2009 that was obviously idiotic. You want more going to hp damage, since that boosts much more than mp does when you're dealing with endgame. Toss in chi cost and there's no contest.

    So while demon is better for setting up kills, sage is better for defending against attacks (if you live long enough to do something).
  • burningsweetfire
    burningsweetfire Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    _Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Pure stupidity.

    These are all opinions, opinions cannot form answers in any form. People play different classes and cultivations as they like them best, eg. I love Demon barbs and I think they are awesome, but others go pfff... they're only good if you go 5APS.

    b:shocked Aps demon barb? Those are fail. Lol

    I like demon barbs for PVP, they are oriented for doing damage and they don't get damage reduction from true form. Demon Arma is also beast, so I don't see demon barb any weaker than a sage barb. Sage Barbs are basically cata barbs, and I can understand why most people want these, because they pull cata and cap flags. But sometimes people wanna be different and unique, so people can roll whatever that makes them comfortable, hell I'm a pure dex seeker. Lol
  • CapnK - Sanctuary
    CapnK - Sanctuary Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    I think sage bm is the current superior.
    Heavens Flame returns you 3/4 a spark.
    Bell is better for your squad.
    Roar consumes less chi.
    Higher DPH
    Drakes Bash often consumes no chi at all.
    I believe Sage marrows are superior but that is really more of a preference thing.

    Plus, sage chi skill is better for blademasters.
    We AoE, we consume tons of chi.
    Gaining the chi to roar and stun and/or dragon a large group of people is much better than taking chi from only one target.

    I agree with most of this. Your mileage will vary with marrows. I can tank casters all day in Sage Magic Marrow but quickshot archers hurt and there are a *lot* of archers on Sanctuary. You can't swap marrows against them because you'll get 1-hit by a metal skill.

    Demons also have much better stunlocking ability against a single target, which is certainly handy for flag carriers and the like.
  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    First off, Hiya Tide!! I see you've created a drama causing thread, Good Job xD

    I'm only going to Make comments on the classes I know or have a reason for my preference :3

    Seeker - Sage [ X] Demon [ ]

    Assassin - Sage [ X] Demon [ ]

    Psychic - Sage [ X] Demon [ ]

    Cleric - Sage [ ] Demon [X ]

    Cleric - Demon cause I LOVVVEEE clerics in PvP, I make it a mission to go and get my *** whooped by a cleric every week at least. :3

    Psychic - Sage because the extra survivability that this gives them makes them freaking hard to take down ._.

    Assassin - Sage cause once again PvP orintated, I lovvvee skill spam sins, they **** me alot, but sins that demon spark on me... die. painfully. :D

    [and last but not least...]

    Seeker - Sage, now i could go on and on about why I think Sage is superior to demon, but I wonnn'tttt, i'll just say:
    -longer seal and stun time
    -more damage on the skills
    -the demon spark is useless to seeks
    -extra def lvls on Adrenal Numbness
    AND -drum roll please-


    ●Blade and Sword Mastery

    Passive Skill

    Requisite Cultivation　Aware of the Myriad
    Increases all blade and sword weapon damage by 75%.

    Sage version increases damage by 90%.

    compared to the 1% crit rate you gain with Demon... which in comparison, sucks xD

    And so there... o,o

    (sorry sorta rambled on about seeks, but it's the only class I really play so... yea :3)
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »
    First off, Hiya Tide!! I see you've created a drama causing thread, Good Job xD

    I'm only going to Make comments on the classes I know or have a reason for my preference :3

    Seeker - Sage [ X] Demon [ ]

    Assassin - Sage [ X] Demon [ ]

    Psychic - Sage [ X] Demon [ ]

    Cleric - Sage [ ] Demon [X ]

    Cleric - Demon cause I LOVVVEEE clerics in PvP, I make it a mission to go and get my *** whooped by a cleric every week at least. :3

    Psychic - Sage because the extra survivability that this gives them makes them freaking hard to take down ._.

    Assassin - Sage cause once again PvP orintated, I lovvvee skill spam sins, they **** me alot, but sins that demon spark on me... die. painfully. :D

    [and last but not least...]

    Seeker - Sage, now i could go on and on about why I think Sage is superior to demon, but I wonnn'tttt, i'll just say:
    -longer seal and stun time
    -more damage on the skills
    -the demon spark is useless to seeks
    -extra def lvls on Adrenal Numbness
    AND -drum roll please-


    ●Blade and Sword Mastery

    Passive Skill

    Requisite Cultivation　Aware of the Myriad
    Increases all blade and sword weapon damage by 75%.

    Sage version increases damage by 90%.

    compared to the 1% crit rate you gain with Demon... which in comparison, sucks xD

    And so there... o,o

    (sorry sorta rambled on about seeks, but it's the only class I really play so... yea :3)

    Couldn't do a proper "hai" cos you rudely told me to say hi to you on skype b:angry
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »
    Couldn't do a proper "hai" cos you rudely told me to say hi to you on skype b:angry

    That's cause you where taking your sweet time responding and I got impatient! You should never leave a woman waiting, ijs! >:
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »
    That's cause you where taking your sweet time responding and I got impatient! You should never leave a woman waiting, ijs! >:

    I was asleep q.q
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »
    Couldn't do a proper "hai" cos you rudely told me to say hi to you on skype b:angry

    Suurrrreee... >_>
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  • Loshon - Archosaur
    Loshon - Archosaur Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Blademaster - Sage [x] Demon [ ]

    bm is really the only class I know well-ish. occult ice can help balance out the 1v1 stunlocking, so it doesn't really matter much. Also, since this thread is asking bout nw/tw, sage has better survivability. sage > demon, because 90% > 75%, and there's not often enough time to hit demon aura when you're being attacked/ganked.

    I also concur with the chi conservation, btw. Also, it's entirely possible to be not so squishy and still be 5.0 base sage, if one were so inclined.. but a bm should not be limited to aps. aps only bms = fail bms.
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Suikyo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    the top psy on the rankings is demon...
    Psy-demon, faster casting, better soul of vengeance, soulburn, psy will...
    As stated, top Psy on rankings is Demon.
    But no, Demon Psy does not actually get faster casting per say, however do see "Soulburn Demon vs Sage" below...
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »
    Lol, the only -chan they have is in white voodoo, and that's even only -3% which doesn't do anything. The soul of vengeance is nice, soulburn is -CD by 5 seconds, I'd rather the extended one like sage has. Psychic will demon only has 20% chance to not use a spark when sage is increased by 2 seconds (Do the math). I think you'd better look up the skills before you say such stuff.
    Channeling on white voodoo is actually only -2% chan not -3% as the skill says, you can see this by using eye of observation or the equivalent unlimited effect through a jungle stone made belt. But this has nothing to do with why Demon Psy is better.

    Soul of Vengeance, no need to reiterate.
    Soulburn Demon vs Sage is like this... Demon SB = 8 seconds duration, 17 seconds till recast (25 seconds past in battle)... Hit same or different opponent... same thing. Sage SB = 10 seconds duration, 20 seconds till recast (30 seconds past in battle)... again, rinse and repeat. So as Sage gains 2 seconds on the effect itself, they lose 3 seconds before another recast and 5 seconds in battle overall... over battles such as TW and NW, which are supposed to be longer events, Ill take Demon Soulburn hands down. But it is in this respect to how a Demon Psy's skills are set up versus how a Sage Psy's skills are set up, that a Demon Psy can be said to be "faster" in battle.

    Psy Will, Sage wins, IF you base it on the physical immunity duration... but why one bases Psy Will on the duration of physical immunity I have no idea, now having plenty of experience in pk and pk-based scenarios... Lemme explain, I used to use Psy Will for that very component, however, with more experience you begin noticing a major squishy-factor involving not physical damage so much, as debuffs as other classes set up to kill you. This includes physical damage classes sure, but also includes caster types. I started seeing Psy Will's main purpose for it's "removes negative statuses" effect with a more positive result more often and with myself being more effective as a Psy. (I have only really started to hone in on when to use this, given I am getting better at paying attention to my icons.) That effect is achieved upon cast completion, in which case neither demon nor sage is better in this respect, until Sage Bubble of Life with it's "Purify" component is brought up too. Psy Will is also effective against the physical damage components of other casters, which it seems most Psys do not take advantage of.
    Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »

    Psychic - Sage because the extra survivability that this gives them makes them freaking hard to take down ._.
    I'm Demon Psy, and I am more "tanky" according to many people on my own server than most Psys or "than they like to have to deal with" as it has been worded. Personally, I say Demon Psy is "better for me" due to my own preference in playstyle... AND Sage Psy is "better" to those whose playstyle it's additional skill components overall fits as compared with demon... there is really no "better" path...
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  • ogunernile
    ogunernile Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    tide_surfer - Archosaur wrote: »
    pretty Self Explanatory, Give Your Vote!
    use This Format:
    Wizard - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Blademaster - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Seeker - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Mystic - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Assassin - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Psychic - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Cleric - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Archer - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Venomancer - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Barbarian - Sage [ ] Demon [ ]
    Simply Put Something In The Box To Show Your Vote B:laugh

    Omg Tide You Are The Man For Doing This!
    Talk To Me Next Time You See Me, I Have Data For You!
    Good Sheeeet Man!!!

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