Question about dex.

Sir_Pain - Lost City
Sir_Pain - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Seeker
Just want to know what is ur base dex on lv 100 or 101 without gear?
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sir_Pain - Lost City wrote: »
    Just want to know what is ur base dex on lv 100 or 101 without gear?

    Mine is 167. With full gear, its 180 . Total crit rate = 38%
    Total phy attack with +7 r9r2 weapon = 14-15k.
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  • Daruvial - Sanctuary
    Daruvial - Sanctuary Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    137 dex without gear on, 185 with gear on. but im 103 not 101.
  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have a total dex of 160 without gear, although I am thinking of maybe cutting it down and placing more of it in str.
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Daruvial - Sanctuary wrote: »
    137 dex without gear on, 185 with gear on. but im 103 not 101.

    Could you link your gear on pwcalc? o.o i m just curious
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  • Daruvial - Sanctuary
    Daruvial - Sanctuary Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Could you link your gear on pwcalc? o.o i m just curious

    http://pwcalc.com/f82c929558d33ab0
    idk if all the stats are right but there it is : o
  • Sir_Pain - Lost City
    Sir_Pain - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ok, ths for or answers and hmm how about vit? u put more point or it to incress ur hp or less?
  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sir_Pain - Lost City wrote: »
    Ok, ths for or answers and hmm how about vit? u put more point or it to incress ur hp or less?

    At a lower lvl I had more vit than I do now, so I had more survivability/ability to tank, but as I am working on my end game gear I find I can achieve the hp I need that vit gives by higher refines on my gear and the points are alot more useful in str giving me more attack power, so I end up restating points to str the more i improve my gear.
    This worked for me but it is really up to the player.

    I have 30vit w/o gear and 108vit w/gear.

    Eventually I may end up reverting my vit to 3 like my mag and shoving it all in str, as that is where it makes the most impact.
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    When you get gear of r9 grade or above, its better to put vit to +3 and mag to +3 and spend those points on str or dex instead.
    Cuz right now my vit is 3 base but i am still hitting 23k hp buffed with +10ing all the armors only
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sir_Pain - Lost City wrote: »
    Just want to know what is ur base dex on lv 100 or 101 without gear?

    171. With and without gear. If you're thinking about 2% extra crit, 180 you should consider. I used to have 200 dex, but I was heavily gimped with that at 100. Restating and putting the left overs into STR was the best move I ever did to this char.
  • ACutAbove - Archosaur
    ACutAbove - Archosaur Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have 176 dex with gear on. Too lazy to take it off and check but I think only a few points come from gear.
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    104 seeker
    With no gear: 150 dex
    With gear: 180 dex 38% crit
  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Anybody ever gone all out to maximize dex on seeker? I've seen people say they have high crit builds but when they tell you their dex its not that high at all. I guess they mean they buy gear with added crit. Or they are just saying something without thinking about it.

    Has anyone ever statted minimum necessary in all other areas and then maxed dexterity on a seeker?
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    soundslegit wrote: »
    Anybody ever gone all out to maximize dex on seeker? I've seen people say they have high crit builds but when they tell you their dex its not that high at all. I guess they mean they buy gear with added crit. Or they are just saying something without thinking about it.

    Has anyone ever statted minimum necessary in all other areas and then maxed dexterity on a seeker?

    I've tried it before just to see the damage output.
    Had around 300 base dex and rest into str.
    Although the crit was high, it wasn't worth sacrificing all that str

    So, now i m 167 dex and rest into str and still have 38% crit with max phy attack
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  • HerbalLife - Archosaur
    HerbalLife - Archosaur Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Mine is 167. With full gear, its 180 . Total crit rate = 38%
    Total phy attack with +7 r9r2 weapon = 14-15k.

    How do you have 38% crit with 167 dex? explain :Ob:bye
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  • blackdream
    blackdream Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    HerbalLife - Archosaur wrote: »
    How do you have 38% crit with 167 dex? explain :Ob:bye

    I'm not sure about 167 base dex but with my calculations, with full s3r9 with max crit on the sword along with dominance tome and the crit from s2 nirvana cape and helm, you could reach 38% crit
  • HerbalLife - Archosaur
    HerbalLife - Archosaur Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    blackdream wrote: »
    I'm not sure about 167 base dex but with my calculations, with full s3r9 with max crit on the sword along with dominance tome and the crit from s2 nirvana cape and helm, you could reach 38% crit


    Yaaa but last time i checked his gear in hes youtube vids, he didnt have any of tht
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    HerbalLife - Archosaur wrote: »
    Yaaa but last time i checked his gear in hes youtube vids, he didnt have any of tht

    Check one of my latest vids on my channel. There's a link to the gear I currently have.
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  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    HerbalLife - Archosaur wrote: »
    How do you have 38% crit with 167 dex? explain :Ob:bye

    It's not hard to achieve high crit% now a days. r8r and r999 bonuses and their stats offers a huge chunk of crit%. Then there is also rings and necklace engraving. Nirvana 2nd cast cape and helm gives crit, and g16 cape and helmet can give generous attribute points.
  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's not hard to achieve high crit% now a days. r8r and r999 bonuses and their stats offers a huge chunk of crit%. Then there is also rings and necklace engraving. Nirvana 2nd cast cape and helm gives crit, and g16 cape and helmet can give generous attribute points.

    Yes
    None of my rings are engraved.
    When I do get my hands on the new tome and have some time to engrave, i'll reach around 42% crit with 167 base dex.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    soundslegit wrote: »
    Anybody ever gone all out to maximize dex on seeker? I've seen people say they have high crit builds but when they tell you their dex its not that high at all. I guess they mean they buy gear with added crit. Or they are just saying something without thinking about it.

    Has anyone ever statted minimum necessary in all other areas and then maxed dexterity on a seeker?
    even dex has its limits cause you want 255 str to equip your weapon/gear

    im 104 seeker
    no gear is 235 dex
    With gear, 260 dex 41% crit

    hoping to test some other stuff now since the reset sale is here (altho havnt engraved anything yet either)
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  • HerbalLife - Archosaur
    HerbalLife - Archosaur Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Mine is 167. With full gear, its 180 . Total crit rate = 38%
    Total phy attack with +7 r9r2 weapon = 14-15k.

    Ur gear is nice, u decided to stay with g15? cause it has crit boost. better than g16 nirv
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    HerbalLife - Archosaur wrote: »
    Ur gear is nice, u decided to stay with g15? cause it has crit boost. better than g16 nirv

    Yes, thats the only reason i still have 2nd tier nirv helm and cape cuz 2% crit boost and also some magic resistance i guess.
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  • Vyrrg - Harshlands
    Vyrrg - Harshlands Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'd cap dex wherever you feel comfortable but always to the nearest 20, 160 is what I like right now, magic doesnt miss, but I may move it to 180 when I start fighting higher geared sins/archers
  • ForgetMe_ - Heavens Tear
    ForgetMe_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I recently restated myself to 280 base dex. It dropped my damage by 2k so im at 11k-13.9k damage at the moment. Currently i have 35% crit but i am missing my s3 sword. I kinda like the extra crit since the damage reduction isnt too bad at the moment. Ill see how it fares in NW this weekend. Also hopefully it will help against missing against sins and archers =D
  • Vyrrg - Harshlands
    Vyrrg - Harshlands Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ForgetMe_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I recently restated myself to 280 base dex. It dropped my damage by 2k so im at 11k-13.9k damage at the moment. Currently i have 35% crit but i am missing my s3 sword. I kinda like the extra crit since the damage reduction isnt too bad at the moment. Ill see how it fares in NW this weekend. Also hopefully it will help against missing against sins and archers =D

    Wow, that's a mountain of dex!
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ForgetMe_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I recently restated myself to 280 base dex. It dropped my damage by 2k so im at 11k-13.9k damage at the moment. Currently i have 35% crit but i am missing my s3 sword. I kinda like the extra crit since the damage reduction isnt too bad at the moment. Ill see how it fares in NW this weekend. Also hopefully it will help against missing against sins and archers =D
    Was your miss pretty noticable? Kinda thinking to experiment the opposite of you (dex to strength) but hesitant because a hit or a miss on a zerk in NW is pretty big
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  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I had 210 dex and just restatted to 160 and put the points into strength. I like the extra damage and one shotting things I wasn't one shotting before. But the misses are a little annoying. Not even convinced that my total DPS is higher when you average the misses in. And this is with my sword giving me +25% accuracy. Might not stick with this build if I don't get a +accuracy ring later on.

    PVP this weekend will be interesting.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This does remind me of all the "aps seekers" who were around when seekers were first released. Alot of them had 200 dex, many had more.

    I'd say our bread and butter is dph and strength adds more to that. However, we're that odd sort of 'battle mage' who is a caster but doesn't get 100% accuracy on our cast skills. Spending a couple seconds to cast and then missing is extra painful.

    I capped my own dex at 180 beccause my weapon had dex that put me over 160 so I said why not and went to the next multiple of 20, but I can see any value up to 300 as reasonably effective and hardly have an opinion on 160 vs 300 dex either defensively or offensively. They both have very minor positives and negatives.
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I had 280 Dex when i was regular r9 and accuracy was around 3600 and I would still some but not a lot. However after capping the Dex to 180 now that I have r9r2 I do miss sometimes but its not noticeable at all in NW.
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  • ForgetMe_ - Heavens Tear
    ForgetMe_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Was your miss pretty noticable? Kinda thinking to experiment the opposite of you (dex to strength) but hesitant because a hit or a miss on a zerk in NW is pretty big

    I don't think it was that bad. After nw last night, i can tell that my damage is lower than it used to be when i was pure str. It was nice seeing the crits and dodges tho. not sure if im going to switch back yet.

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