Heart shatter / Soul shatter

whiplashed
whiplashed Posts: 15 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Seeker
k i've been hearing some nasty rumors about these skills not working in pk and want to get to the truth of it.
anyone know for sure if this is true with these two skills?

i've tried them in tw's and never see the debuffs go up on the target but not sure if its a glitch or not. and if it is true that these skills dont work in pk......

WTF?!?! why not take away bm's stun skills for pk? or sins stealth? its basically what pwi did to seekers then. we live and die on debuffs and the abilities they give us to get kills instead of being a meat bag like a barb is.
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    whiplashed wrote: »
    k i've been hearing some nasty rumors about these skills not working in pk and want to get to the truth of it.
    anyone know for sure if this is true with these two skills?

    i've tried them in tw's and never see the debuffs go up on the target but not sure if its a glitch or not. and if it is true that these skills dont work in pk......

    WTF?!?! why not take away bm's stun skills for pk? or sins stealth? its basically what pwi did to seekers then. we live and die on debuffs and the abilities they give us to get kills instead of being a meat bag like a barb is.

    Read the skill's description again. It clearly says "it only works against mobs"
    if those skills worked in pvp, we would be able to one shot r9r2 quite easily lol
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  • soundslegit
    soundslegit Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    whiplashed wrote: »
    k i've been hearing some nasty rumors about these skills not working in pk and want to get to the truth of it.
    anyone know for sure if this is true with these two skills?

    i've tried them in tw's and never see the debuffs go up on the target but not sure if its a glitch or not. and if it is true that these skills dont work in pk......

    WTF?!?! why not take away bm's stun skills for pk? or sins stealth? its basically what pwi did to seekers then. we live and die on debuffs and the abilities they give us to get kills instead of being a meat bag like a barb is.

    Your like the guy with his first job who just finds out about taxes.
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  • whiplashed
    whiplashed Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    well why the hell not be able to oneshot ppl? **** i get once shot by archers, wizzies, psys. why cant a heavy hit hard like that? seekers are so crippled by things like this its not even funny.
    and lets see you try and kill a full r999 barb w/o help from debuffs or a full 10 man squad or even survive long enough against archers, wizzies, psys to be able to get a hit in.
    hey soundslegit f u you probly run an archer **** off. seekers would fuking own your punk *** if we had our best debuff avail in pk. instead we get stunned and two shot by you op pussies. and cant do enough damage in return to even bother. we got good skills but b/s cooldowns on them. handcuffed by weapon. and no def virtually against stuns, seals, and such. we live and die on debuffs so why handcuff us in pk by taking them away? all you fuks would be scared of seekers then cuz we'd actually be a threat to op archers and wizzies and psys.
  • Deg - Lost City
    Deg - Lost City Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    whiplashed wrote: »
    well why the hell not be able to oneshot ppl? **** i get once shot by archers, wizzies, psys. why cant a heavy hit hard like that? seekers are so crippled by things like this its not even funny.
    and lets see you try and kill a full r999 barb w/o help from debuffs or a full 10 man squad or even survive long enough against archers, wizzies, psys to be able to get a hit in.
    hey soundslegit f u you probly run an archer **** off. seekers would fuking own your punk *** if we had our best debuff avail in pk. instead we get stunned and two shot by you op pussies. and cant do enough damage in return to even bother. we got good skills but b/s cooldowns on them. handcuffed by weapon. and no def virtually against stuns, seals, and such. we live and die on debuffs so why handcuff us in pk by taking them away? all you fuks would be scared of seekers then cuz we'd actually be a threat to op archers and wizzies and psys.

    If a hh90 seeker goes against r9 psy wiz etc he might get 1shot, idk wtf are you talking about
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  • Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver
    Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver Posts: 441 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    lol, if those debuff worked in pvp, seeker could kill almost anyone withotu trying >.> im alrdy killing r9 peep with gear better then me ( im full g16 with wep +10 and armor +6) havign heart shatter would have me one shot almost any r9 i see beside the full josd +12 one
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Its not like those skills couldn't have toned down effects when used against players.
    (looking at you, Absorb Soul...)
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If absorb soul had the same effect on players we wouldn't need archers at all

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  • whiplashed
    whiplashed Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    you think a seeker cant get one shot? rofl.. i'm full g16 +7 wep +10 and carry 12K hp w/o barb buffs and i get one shot at least 5 times in every tw. yet when i attack these op's i barely twitch their hp bar. so even when i get the drop on them i hit em once or twice.. get their attention and then crumple to the ground as a wiz or psy or archer one shots me. and dont gimme that bs well if you did this or did that.. in tw lots of times things on cool down, no sparks, and such all play into it. i've had barbs arma on me and one shot me in tw, bm's roll me over in 2 secs with hf, clerics sleep me then 2 shot me.
    but when i fight back i find no killing power like what i'm recieving from lots of classes. I fight against full r9 3rd recast ppl on a weekly basis i've seen it all and am constantly frustrated with seekers lack of offense in pk/tw when it comes to doing anything against the big money players with super elite gears.
    but whatever. ya'll think your so good, maybe you just not fighting against the elite players then like i am weekly. i can take a r9 easy normally but try takin a full r9 3rd recast +12.... thought so. then you'll know the pain of our debuffs not working and the frustrating inability to do anything offensivly to them because of it.
    so ya'll haters can just kiss off.. seekers got so screwed by pwi in lots of aspects. nobody seems to see it but me apparently

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  • Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver
    Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver Posts: 441 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    whiplashed wrote: »
    you think a seeker cant get one shot? rofl.. i'm full g16 +7 wep +10 and carry 12K hp w/o barb buffs and i get one shot at least 5 times in every tw. yet when i attack these op's i barely twitch their hp bar. so even when i get the drop on them i hit em once or twice.. get their attention and then crumple to the ground as a wiz or psy or archer one shots me. and dont gimme that bs well if you did this or did that.. in tw lots of times things on cool down, no sparks, and such all play into it. i've had barbs arma on me and one shot me in tw, bm's roll me over in 2 secs with hf, clerics sleep me then 2 shot me.
    but when i fight back i find no killing power like what i'm recieving from lots of classes. I fight against full r9 3rd recast ppl on a weekly basis i've seen it all and am constantly frustrated with seekers lack of offense in pk/tw when it comes to doing anything against the big money players with super elite gears.
    but whatever. ya'll think your so good, maybe you just not fighting against the elite players then like i am weekly. i can take a r9 easy normally but try takin a full r9 3rd recast +12.... thought so. then you'll know the pain of our debuffs not working and the frustrating inability to do anything offensivly to them because of it.
    so ya'll haters can just kiss off.. seekers got so screwed by pwi in lots of aspects. nobody seems to see it but me apparently

    bleet like a sheep
    :P

    sorry to say sir, but reroll another class plz

    (btw, kinda normal nirvy g16 < r9 3rd, dunno what ay expect, all class will do **** against them with g16 nirvy)
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Its not like those skills couldn't have toned down effects when used against players.
    (looking at you, Absorb Soul...)

    Heart Shatter-15-20% boost if used on player, lasts for 10sec : if used on a player the user's physical and metal defense is reduced by 15-20% for 10 sec

    Mind Shatter- boost to crit rate lowered to 15%, duration if used on player lasts only 10sec.

    Soul Shatter- boost to crit rate lowered from 50% to 25%, damage boost can stay as it is and so can the duration considering the cooldown.

    would be nice to be able to boost my team members damage as long as my own.
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  • Taco_Limey - Harshlands
    Taco_Limey - Harshlands Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    whiplashed wrote: »
    seekers are so crippled by things like this its not even funny.


    Theres a reason why they dont give us those in pvp. We are the biggest hitting class in the game... Seekers rule the Damage test. I have hit r9 venos and clerics for roughly 30k... Its called Dg,QPQ,sac slash,blade affinty, Gemini. Seekers are not crippled at all... I mean a buff that gives us 35 def levels.. Oh yea real crippled.. So i mean if they gave us those skills useable in pvp. Seekers could poke something and everything would die... Soo before u call it a crippled class go learn it...
    Taco_Limey: Harshlands 102 Rank 9 Seeker
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    anwynd wrote: »
    Heart Shatter-15-20% boost if used on player, lasts for 10sec : if used on a player the user's physical and metal defense is reduced by 15-20% for 10 sec

    Mind Shatter- boost to crit rate lowered to 15%, duration if used on player lasts only 10sec.

    Soul Shatter- boost to crit rate lowered from 50% to 25%, damage boost can stay as it is and so can the duration considering the cooldown.

    would be nice to be able to boost my team members damage as long as my own.

    >b:thanks
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    >b:thanks

    glad you liked my skill revisions. wasnt completely sure about it. i spent a good 30 minutes debating with myself on it and got the opinions of 7 seekers ik ig. still not sure on it tho but i think they are reasonable it wouldnt be OP i believe with my revisions.
    Heck if you have to you could add a chi cost to Soul Shatter but considering its cooldown i think all is fair. Well im gonna stop talking now because i feel like i could type out 15 pages worth of nothing thanks to all the sugar and other stuff ive eatenb:laughb:avoidb:mischievous
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  • Daruvial - Sanctuary
    Daruvial - Sanctuary Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    sigh.. go back to pve.
  • Hannsel - Dreamweaver
    Hannsel - Dreamweaver Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    so a class that can zerkcrit physical arcanes AND zerkcrit metal heavies needs a boost b:chuckle b:chuckle
  • ruminmycoffee
    ruminmycoffee Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    whiplashed wrote: »
    l.. i'm full g16 +7 wep +10 and carry 12K hp w/o barb buffs and i get one shot at least 5 times in every tw.

    You are far enough in game to have this, and you're just now figuring out these debuffs don't work on peeps?!

    I think there's a good reason you're getting mauled so badly....and it has nothing to do with the Seeker class.

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