End Game Gear.

Badonkajonck - Archosaur

Hey there.

Me and my father have been nearing our end game stage. I was wondering for an Archer what would be better Lunar or Nirvana? Or are they the same? I really don't know. We don't plan on going R9 to expensive for us. So I was wondering how to do I start to get my end game gear(Weapons as well)? Does it start with TT99 or something? I am both PVE and PVP archer. While I am asking about this would it also be good for a barb to go Nirvana as well? (Father is a Barb both PVE and PVP)

If you need anymore information just ask will be happy to provide it.

Edit: What I currently have: http://www.pwcalc.com/24d283e04220c382

-hippo

Sudqi - Sanctuary

u still lvl 88 so its kinda early think about vana gear so i think if u not p,k player keep going in TT get tt90 then 99 one so u will be able make make vana from your tt99 gear .

and remember keep join NW " even if u got low token " while u be lvl 100 u will have enough cannys to make vana gear then for make G16 gear its come after vana one ^_^

Ignathas - Sanctuary

tt is usually bound to acount and u cant trade it or sell it after you equip it. lunar is a bit more expencive but u can trade it later or sell it if you dont like, and looks cooler. but if youre going G16 it looks the same. u should have decent def-mdef and hp, at least 6k +6k and 10k hp not to be 1 hitted, non buffed. and weapon-dex should be as high as possible so u can kill some1. i suggest cube necklace warsong belt lunar 95lvl rings g16 armor and bow, relatively cheap and efficient its what most ppl doing if not going r9r also can go r8 and recast it, altho g16 is better

Badonkajonck - Archosaur

Sudqi - Sanctuary wrote: »

u still lvl 88 so its kinda early think about vana gear so i think if u not p,k player keep going in TT get tt90 then 99 one so u will be able make make vana from your tt99 gear .

and remember keep join NW " even if u got low token " while u be lvl 100 u will have enough cannys to make vana gear then for make G16 gear its come after vana one ^_^

I get a decent amount of tokens in NW if getting 32 or so is so, haha. But thank you I will keep at it. I was leveling to fast so I thought better be prepared, I have slowed my leveling now. I guess I just wanted to be ready, haha. You will probably hear from me again in future once I start making Nirvana gear. :P b:thanks

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Might as well just buy an advance reset note with your NW money. Trust me; it's a good investment

Change to something like: http://www.pwcalc.com/016cb58754f431bc

I suggest dual Misty Forest rings because the accuracy buff is AMAZING for hitting sins and archers in NW. I suggest a Broad Land but it's p. expensive. At this rate just get to 95 and buy a Heaven Shatterer, which you can turn into a tradable nirvana bow. As a rule get Helmet refined first because that gives you more raw HP. I have a crapload of STR from various adds so you might even get a str tome to wear GVs with.

G8 Cits aren't expensive if you make them from tokens.

If you want the TM79 pdef cape (**** interval) then buy it before you hit 90 (8 runs = 8 mil) or you can hold out and buy Cape of Tauran Chieftain instead; it's just + magic def which is just as nice for LA classes.

EDIT: psst: You can get away with using woven fang arrows in pve. NOBODY WILL NOTICE and it is cheap

Badonkajonck - Archosaur

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Might as well just buy an advance reset note with your NW money. Trust me; it's a good investment

Change to something like: http://www.pwcalc.com/016cb58754f431bc

I suggest dual Misty Forest rings because the accuracy buff is AMAZING for hitting sins and archers in NW. I suggest a Broad Land but it's p. expensive. At this rate just get to 95 and buy a Heaven Shatterer, which you can turn into a tradable nirvana bow. As a rule get Helmet refined first because that gives you more raw HP. I have a crapload of STR from various adds so you might even get a str tome to wear GVs with.

G8 Cits aren't expensive if you make them from tokens.

If you want the TM79 pdef cape (**** interval) then buy it before you hit 90 (8 runs = 8 mil) or you can hold out and buy Cape of Tauran Chieftain instead; it's just + magic def which is just as nice for LA classes.

EDIT: psst: You can get away with using woven fang arrows in pve. NOBODY WILL NOTICE and it is cheap

I would like to throw in there I bought a Tome of Iron Will today(3.5mill was told it was a good deal) and refined my belt to +3. I do use woven fang arrows for pve. The only problems I have is finding a helm I can wear that I can either make or get really cheaply because I am not that rich. I am never able to make enough coins in any sort of video games I don't know why, haha.
I wanted to get the Brimstone TM cape but as you said earlier "8runs = 8 mill" and that just the TM79 one. I have never had 8mill so yeah. xD I have recently gotten a rest note to get rid of 50 vit I had from lower level(Father was nice enough to buy me one). One more thing is I have no idea on where to get most of the things nor the cost for them and I was more hoping to go DPH and not really for intervals. I am open to any new ideas I should try though.

Silly question. What is G8 Cits?

Sorry for having a big wall of text.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

G8=immaculate citrines (4x flawless combined; flawless made from tokens of luck are cheap)

You don't just reset your vit; you have to reset all of your stats. 3vit 3mag, str cap under 100 and use gears to give yourself str to wear helmets. My gears give me enough str to wear WoE with level + 4 base str, for example; in 1 or 2 levels I can wear the GVs I bought the other day (135 str). In fact I have ~50 str from gears alone so I can afford to cap at 94 str to get to a crit breakpoint of 420 at 101 and 440 at 105 (3mag 3 vit)

stay under 90 if you can by TM79 runs because no one does anything above that. Higher capes are almost always from packs. Cape of Tauran Chieftain is ~1.5mil in AH and gives nice stats too. go for it since you'll be wearing pdef ornies mostly

SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver

Pretty good advice so far. Do restat your points to 3 vit and 3 mag. Then put enough str to wear your Armor and drop the rest into dex.

Mystic(g10) rings are nice and not to expensive, I never really had a problem with accuracy but then again I'm pure dex. Ring of heavenly lord(g11) is a nice ring too and it will give you more damage output and refines a bit better. Another good choice is unicorn spirit ring order that one refines even better due to being g12.

Going rank 8 is not bad, and no near as expensive as r9.of course nirv g15-16 is better. But it's a cheap endgame alternative. If you stick to pve r8 is plenty specially at higher refines. PvP is where is a problem specially vs R9RRR lol but then again everything sucks against that unless your g16+12 then your be just as good or better. (I have to do the math again lol)

Anyway rank will give you good int. Which is nice for archers. As for your dad I say go tt for him. My friend is a g16 sage barb and he is pretty godly lol. If time you can build a full set and work on refines.

-Grim

WnbTank - Archosaur

Depends completely how much you are willing to spend time/money, as almost any in game effort can be bought. Cheap Archer build, I think, which takes quite a bit of effort to farm Warsong though. But has, by far, best effort/quality ratio.

Base build, worth ~350m:
http://pwcalc.com/d7afe21b66cda4f7

Rings are 20m each, can use ~1m misty forest rings on start instead.

Cube neck is ~100m and can use ~1m Sky Demon`s pearl till one can afford cube neck.

So going cheap, 350m-100m-20m-20m = 210m or ~200g.

The problemish part comes with farming N3 gear, you want to refine your N2 gear to 3-5 and shard it with something, thus increasing costs slightly. But when you farm the N3 yourself, you get the materials from last boss, doing 40 runs should give you 40 of those, to make bound warsoul belt, mixed with some warsoul mats, which are cheap because of NW.

The ultimate build for this seems like this and costs 1,7b on top of what I used as base build but good thing bout this build is how easy it`s to upgrade a bit slowly.
http://pwcalc.com/d36c3d5fc3a919bd
refining wep to 12 is another 300m or so.

For comparison, clean R9 set on our server costs ~1.5b I believe. R9 recasts beat anything but if those are outside your budget, N3 is the best option to aim for.

Geckofreak - Sanctuary

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Base build, worth ~350m:
http://pwcalc.com/d7afe21b66cda4f7

Rings are 20m each, can use ~1m misty forest rings on start instead.

Cube neck is ~100m and can use ~1m Sky Demon`s pearl till one can afford cube neck.

Thats basically what I use however cube is now cheaper then 100m
The g16 la armor all shows up on calc with minimum dex before editing so it ends up much better then that too.
http://pwcalc.com/8e6d0b588a67c1aa
70m for cube neck now from nw, 20m for warsong belt (+Farming in Warsong which you will do easily badge/mold hunting) about 30m for each ring, 60m for weapon if you use tt 99 gold bow dragonbow nameless as your base and the cannies required for full armor are like 13m per piece so 78m for all, with tt mats varying but being 20m-30m for each tt 99/90 gold piece of armor needed.

I would strongly suggest against using a crossbow however and go with the slingshot. Crossbows have more damage but less damage over time with all refines. Also slower shooting means sparking less. The only thing crossbows would be superior for are 9 trials where skills do more then normal attacks because of the buff, and for barraging. I love bows so i went with the normal bow, but in terms of damage and attack rate, the slingshot is the superior weapon, especially if you get interval on it

WnbTank - Archosaur

I do agree partly on xbow actually but my archer is sage and I rarely seem to auto-attack on PK - Sage QS, LS, stunning arrow are just quite easy to spam and with how easy it is to build chi, I BoA a lot thus I underestimate attack speed, which I shouldnt <.<. I do have to level the thing, I have every single sage skill book but leveling mostly trough heads, he has ridiculously little spirit.

Ps. Lunar rings on Archo = dirt cheap, I got one refined to 5 for 20m actually, granted it was unusually cheap one.

-Mr. 1k IGs in private stash.

SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver

Lunar rings in DW are between 27-30 mil. Farming lunar for badges and picking up mats during 2x have brought them down from their old crazy price. Making them with chips is way too expensive unless your just using your master card lol.

That last build posted is the ideal (most cost effective) build with the exception of the rank ring. I would replace that with a 2nd lunar ring specially if your not going rank why waste the coin to get r8 only to keep the ring at the end.

At least the 2nd lunar ring can be refine for additional Def. Just my opinion.

Badonkajonck - Archosaur

I was showed the forges today and it has given me quite a bit of information that I needed/wanted. First I would like to thank SunDownXIII, WnbTank, Geckofreak and Walpurga for your input. Has helped quite a bit. I will get a point reset and get rid of all my vit and mag. I thought 5 was the lowest and the mag was from lower level placing(I didn't know how to place point well, haha)

I would like to add I have capped my Str at 100 because of the tome I got (Gives me enough str) and I am not fond of Crossbows so I will go for xbox(?). Getting the mats to make TT99 won't be as hard so might be cheaper because we are 3 that play (Father, mother and Me) We do TT quite a bit. I like the thought about using Signs of Chaos. So If possible I will get one of those possibly with the Misty Forrest ring.

About the cube necklace. Could I not make one from doing Cube of fate? My Archer is to squishy for it of course but, Dad's barb on the other hand isn't I have done it once(Quite a lot of fun.)

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

I'm gonna assume that no one in your family is APS/NV-geared/Decently refined TT99 yet

In that case, since you'll be in TT3-3 with only 3 people in lower level TT gear...it's gonna take a long time to farm those gears.

HINT: Bring charms and res scrolls for 3-3

qzazn8

Farming the cube neck shouldn't be too bad. You could do it on your archer too, but it after you've leveled up some. If you complete cube of fate once per day, you will need 30 days to get the neck. Mind that you will spend upwards of 20-30 mil, but its much cheaper than buying the neck off the market.