has this game gone that crazy
Black_wolve - Sanctuary
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Whatever happen to PWI? Has this game really gone down hill?
Lets see what i don't like is lunar was fun back in the day every once paid 500k each the mats where all random there was no fights that rule stuck for a few years now some of the people who start lunar still want u to pay 500k but they want u to drop everything and split at the end and whats really amazing is they want the molds to but yet you pay the 500k fee.
Are these players insane? This is one of many reasons why a lot of us old vet who busted are butts to lv with out hyper,. bounty hunting etc we worked very hard grinding and doing runs way before all this new stuff came out.
Just like Warsong another reason why a few of us players refuse it to many people greed in there take the mold with out first asking if any one needs it take these molds for there alts etc and then sell them for coin and on i also noticed there getting smart selling them for usd as well as game coin which in fact if there caught be banned so is it really worth it i wouldn't think so some of these players think it is .
I really think that the (GM's) should make changes to the game put a stop to all this **** way to much going on and for a major game company from china i would think there aware of whats going on and do something about it .
It makes me sick to watch how a good game turn in to a eBay no wonder why a lot switched over to other games i play that more than pwi. Am not asking for pity am stating a fact that there should be changes made to this game and bring this game back the way it once was .I though t-t was bad now warsong and lunar maybe they should change the bounty hunting to a new boss maybe make it so u can not put molds from warsong in to account stash ?This may work a few changes can make a big difference in any game i rather not care who hates me who wants to correct my spelling iam here to enjoy a game not deal with this.
But as i talk to other players who started at beta they even said to me that this game gone down hill some quit for almost a year came back and they told me how there disgusted with it plat charm now 10 mil wth sorry but about time some one speeks up and says something .
Lets see what i don't like is lunar was fun back in the day every once paid 500k each the mats where all random there was no fights that rule stuck for a few years now some of the people who start lunar still want u to pay 500k but they want u to drop everything and split at the end and whats really amazing is they want the molds to but yet you pay the 500k fee.
Are these players insane? This is one of many reasons why a lot of us old vet who busted are butts to lv with out hyper,. bounty hunting etc we worked very hard grinding and doing runs way before all this new stuff came out.
Just like Warsong another reason why a few of us players refuse it to many people greed in there take the mold with out first asking if any one needs it take these molds for there alts etc and then sell them for coin and on i also noticed there getting smart selling them for usd as well as game coin which in fact if there caught be banned so is it really worth it i wouldn't think so some of these players think it is .
I really think that the (GM's) should make changes to the game put a stop to all this **** way to much going on and for a major game company from china i would think there aware of whats going on and do something about it .
It makes me sick to watch how a good game turn in to a eBay no wonder why a lot switched over to other games i play that more than pwi. Am not asking for pity am stating a fact that there should be changes made to this game and bring this game back the way it once was .I though t-t was bad now warsong and lunar maybe they should change the bounty hunting to a new boss maybe make it so u can not put molds from warsong in to account stash ?This may work a few changes can make a big difference in any game i rather not care who hates me who wants to correct my spelling iam here to enjoy a game not deal with this.
But as i talk to other players who started at beta they even said to me that this game gone down hill some quit for almost a year came back and they told me how there disgusted with it plat charm now 10 mil wth sorry but about time some one speeks up and says something .
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Black_wolve - Sanctuary wrote: »Whatever happen to PWI? Has this game really gone down hill?
Lets see what i don't like is lunar was fun back in the day every once paid 500k each the mats where all random there was no fights that rule stuck for a few years now some of the people who start lunar still want u to pay 500k but they want u to drop everything and split at the end and whats really amazing is they want the molds to but yet you pay the 500k fee.
Are these players insane? This is one of many reasons why a lot of us old vet who busted are butts to lv with out hyper,. bounty hunting etc we worked very hard grinding and doing runs way before all this new stuff came out.
Just like Warsong another reason why a few of us players refuse it to many people greed in there take the mold with out first asking if any one needs it take these molds for there alts etc and then sell them for coin and on i also noticed there getting smart selling them for usd as well as game coin which in fact if there caught be banned so is it really worth it i wouldn't think so some of these players think it is .
I really think that the (GM's) should make changes to the game put a stop to all this **** way to much going on and for a major game company from china i would think there aware of whats going on and do something about it .
It makes me sick to watch how a good game turn in to a eBay no wonder why a lot switched over to other games i play that more than pwi. Am not asking for pity am stating a fact that there should be changes made to this game and bring this game back the way it once was .I though t-t was bad now warsong and lunar maybe they should change the bounty hunting to a new boss maybe make it so u can not put molds from warsong in to account stash ?This may work a few changes can make a big difference in any game i rather not care who hates me who wants to correct my spelling iam here to enjoy a game not deal with this.
But as i talk to other players who started at beta they even said to me that this game gone down hill some quit for almost a year came back and they told me how there disgusted with it plat charm now 10 mil wth sorry but about time some one speeks up and says something .
Sorry but had to make a tiny change. Please try not to mention other games in your posts.
Now that's been said, I've been around and know where your coming from. People think the suggestion box has been ignored in the past, myself included, but you've got some good ideas going on. Post in there some other changes you would like to see and I can promise you they will be looked at and taken into consideration.0 -
All I can suggest is get a good friends list of trust worthy peeps. There's always the dodgy newb element that are idiots (unfortunately we can't exterminate them apparently there's laws against that b:surrender)
I personally have found a good group of trustworthy peeps and their friends are trustworthy too - if anyone does anything dodgy they get cut from the lists of eligible people to run with - you'd be suprised how well this method works when people stuff up they are gutted that they get cut - if they are lucky it's only temporary.
Basically good people value good friends the idiots in for the quick win will be transient and always having to move because of their behaviours, they will never understand what keeps the old timers here because they will never get in on the valuable continual runs (that are filled with the players that know how to throw their toons around and not die) and will get bored and leave.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Unfortunately, it seems anything that requires higher level players, unless as stated above and you have a close knit group of friends, everything becomes a free-for-all run by rampant greed, and even cases of close groups, they too can fall prey to the same things they complain enmass about. Mind you, I am not saying all high level players, but there are a lot of them that have the game version of the evil corporate CEO.
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Maybe you should find a group of trusted friends to run with. But I don't see that happening if you keep QQing and ranting in wc every day. lol[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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You old vets, ala the CB players and whatnot aren't the only ones who share this view. The game as well as players were very different when I started 3 years ago.. but now yeah, something is wrong with the players of this generation.. I guess I shouldn't complain that I rarely get to play with others, as it appears I'm not missing out on anything. I never want anything in runs except the fun. Molds and stuff, I'm not interested in. Hey makes it easier for others to get their drop..
Its a case of people wanting instant gratification, to being unappreciative, to being greedy..0 -
in lost its a bit hard but dont feel bad i seen tons of good player and a lot of bad ones.
when u run with bad player who grab the mold do not inv them back.
add ppl who dont grab the modl at 1st and look for what player is what so the right player get the mold.
as for alt its not something i CARE for cos anybody can say i have a sin seeker ep but gues what ur on a barb so you would wear heavy not LA or AA.
if the ones in party do not need said mold then u can pick the mold.
ya there a lot of noob but once you discover them ether leave party and look for a new one or tell party to kick said player shouldent be hard.
they wont last long trust me.0 -
Black_wolve - Depends on friends. When we do 500k splits, i ask if people are not collecting lunar mats to give them to me, people npc lunar mats. If others are collecting lunar mats that run, i ask them what they need and if i have what they want i give it to them. The EoD pays the cost. If i a farming a specific mat, i will pay for the run gob all the mats, take my 3m fees, the EoD is split amongst the 5 friends.
I rarely ever go with random world chat squads, even if the run is paid. Lunar is about aoe dd power, and i can't trust random world chat squads to have that.0 -
Sounds like you have the wrong group of people to do Lunar with. Come do Lunar runs with Enelysion instead.0
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CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »Sounds like you have the wrong group of people to do Lunar with. Come do Lunar runs with Enelysion instead.
In fact, this isn't just limited to Lunar. It's spread amongst all instances. The times to go do stuff with "random" people have been over for a while now. If you want things to succeed ... you need to go with trusted people. It's a real shame to see how people behave nowadays. When you think a few years back, people were playing together in respect and peace, even if they were strangers. I totally miss that today.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
It's not just lunar it's how this game has become in the matter of years the new generation of players are abusing these games by treating other players like dirt .Now that's been said if changes are made then i would think this game would turn out a better game .But atm a lot of players i know quit for a while some been almost a year .
A lot just got tired of it and stopped playing When i do go on i play different mmo games i like the change the platforms and players i used to play this game pwi a lot it was my #1 game until the changes where made not fare to go in to a bounty hunting quest and deal with players who have 1 thing on there mind is greed .
I very rare do warsong now a lot of my Friends have quit for a while and moved on to other games as for lunar that was pretty cool at first before players got greedy with that as well .I just do seat,abanddon ,i used to do delta a lot before they changed that now to u don't get coin and every one wants to do it at spawn point that takes a lot more damage and repair bills are insane any 1 use's plat charms will tell u they use them up fast .
Iam used to the old ways collecting beads etc in delta none of this spawn point stuff it just seems as a lot of players seem to be in a rush to get things done.
Well am hoping to see changes in the future maybe some major changes to make this game better we can only hope.0 -
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I would agree with most of what you said... ok everything lol. The issue comes down to I think the age group of the players and how long it takes them to get to what I have referred to as elite status in the game. The 100+ people working on or in end game gear.
Way back when most of us who were over 70 or 80 worked at it... We spent weeks just to cross 10 lvls to get to the next part. We were generally older gamers and always had a certain respect for others at our level. Now the hyper baby's come into play and they are crossing 100 in a week or less (just started a new toon on my days off and it took me 2 days to go from 1-45 and only used hypers once no fc)... There is nobody to put them into there place they get a big head and want everything else just as fast...
The first time i joined an elitist faction was the worst faction I have ever been in... Only recruited 100+ gear requirements were super high r8 or tt99 minimum refines were required and anybody sharded with less than grade 10 gem was out.... I figured these people worked just as hard as I had to be there and they would be a good farming group to be around..... Oh was I wrong, I had never seen another group of such low rate, greedy, whining kids in my life who would kill anything and everything including eachother and then fight about it for hours on guild chat. Almost all of the arguments started with GIVE ME...
Needless to say after that I spent almost a year guildless until I was asked by a few people in another elitist faction to apply with them and join up... Sadly though I worked to much to do much of anything with them but they were a far better group to be around with an average age range in the mid 20's... I think there was one person in that faction under 20. b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Other names include but not limited to LOKl_ _ClRCE_, _AnGeal_0 -
I normally agree with the avoidance of random squads 49 times out of 50, but every so often you find a good group of people just playing to have fun. Unfortunately its rare. There are far too many prepubescent, drivelling, boxorox players that apparently think an MMO is a game they only play, and the rest of the players matter not. Its all "memememe" and look how cool my pixels are, or the twisted "entitlement crowd of over powered pixels"
They become so obsessed with the game, it becomes their life. Case in point, at least on RT, is reading world chat. If its not Teenage Power Pixels looking for the fastest squads possible, TW faction members spewing forth pixellated elitest speak (which tends to make them all look like juvenile idiots), its vulgar sexual discussions, of which I'm sure, the majority, would have no clue about in the real world, other than hiding a used, sticky sock under their mattress so their mother doesn't find it.
Ah, the joys of trying to find a good random squad and world chat moron banter.
Yes I used the world pixel several times in varying forms, but I think it fits the mentality of the majority of young players..."a minute area of illumination on a display screen, one of many from which an image is composed"
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i have to agree with the OP on the lunar part,if you pay 500k each and items drop..ITS YOUR ITEM NO SPLIT YOU STUPID FOOLS.
and my mom never found my sticky socks.This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
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Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »Black_wolve - Depends on friends. When we do 500k splits, i ask if people are not collecting lunar mats to give them to me, people npc lunar mats. If others are collecting lunar mats that run, i ask them what they need and if i have what they want i give it to them. The EoD pays the cost. If i a farming a specific mat, i will pay for the run gob all the mats, take my 3m fees, the EoD is split amongst the 5 friends.
I rarely ever go with random world chat squads, even if the run is paid. Lunar is about aoe dd power, and i can't trust random world chat squads to have that.
How to lunar today:
1. Get 3m
2. Invite trustworthy friends and faction members
3. Pay the 3m fee
4. Claim all mats including Essense of defense
5. ??????
6. Profit
EoD's on my server are now up to 8.5m so if your not smart enough(In coin making) and still do random runs your missing out...0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »How to lunar today:
1. Get 3m
2. Invite trustworthy friends and faction members
3. Pay the 3m fee
4. Claim all mats including Essense of defense
5. ??????
6. Profit
EoD's on my server are now up to 8.5m so if your not smart enough and still do random runs your missing out...
So, your game plan is to exploit your friends?
Why should anyone run Lunar with you past the BH boss?0 -
Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »So, your game plan is to exploit your friends?
Why should anyone run Lunar with you past the BH boss?
It is not exploiting. Everyone who knows how to make money does this. I give them a free lunar run for their BH and I get a EoD for paying the 3m fee, all good. When EoD's irst came out this was widely done, I have no idea where you have been.
People are proving just how greedy they are with alt's in NW, yet you call paying for a lunar run so everyone else can get the BH kill for free exploiting others? Sad. Furthermore I'm not keeping this method of lunar resell profit a secret. I just typed it out for everyone to see and do who haven't done it yet. I'm not greedy whatsoever in making money.
Fyi when EoD's came out, they only sold for 3m profit, and I still did it so others could get their BH kill freely. The price increase was just luck. Made no profit other then BH turn in back then. I was actually being nice.0 -
Most common methods that I've seen have been opener gets EoD, rest random or everyone pays and EoD is sold and split. Opener grabs all seems a bit much, but if you can find people happy with that so be it.0
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I agree. Especially about people being greedy and stupid.
It does really ruin the fun to think, ok, you can't do things with random squads and expect to get anything out of it. But at least in my opinion, it has always been that way.
Bound molds drive me crazy. Nothing like watching the mold you want go to someone who can't use it or doesn't need it because someone clicked too fast or something dumb like that. If no one in the squad can use it, it would be nice to see it go even to an alt or a friend who could use it. I would rather see things be used than taken by people to be sold, that should be an absolute last resort.
Lunar and Warsong, generally, in my opinion, are not inclusive instances. PW could solve a lot of grief over this if they would implement a second method by which to acquire molds. They got a real hard-on for NW, so why not put molds in the NW rewards forges? If not all, even just some would help. Can keep them bound still, but it would lessen the instance related mold greed. Still need to go to Lunar n Warsong to get badges and essences of course, but I think another way to get molds would be helpful. I don't know what it is about my luck, but most of the time all I see are r9 trash molds that no one in my squads need, so if I could save up NW tokens to buy molds, I would be 1000x happier.
If people really want to fall for the "I pay 3mil and get all the loot" swindle, then by all means do so. Honestly though, even if you sold -just- the Essence at 3mil and split with a squad of 6 you'll make your money back (of course it sells for higher, so even better!), so in my opinion it's pretty silly not to pay the 500k if you're going to bother with Lunar.0 -
This is why you should never do squads if you can solo the place or have trust-worthy friends. I barely bothered with randoms since the almost squad wipe that I have escaped from when I was on one of my alts and the run turned into a drama that two idiots are involved in. That made me decide not to bother doing random squads again after that until I got everything refined well enough so I can easily solo everything I want to or get bored.
The best solution is to quit the game, PWE is known to **** up people who play the game fairly only to get spit in the face after for all the effort they put into (look at the **** ups from the patches) I don't think it is worth going any further with this game, basically beginner-mid levels for PVE turned into 2 hours worth of one shotting, everyone skips that and considers that low levels since power leveling got even faster, just no coin gain which is obvious for people to spend money on the game.
It will not be long till even endgame becomes ruined completely like all the other levels below 99, as bad as it became now, it is just not going be worth playing in the end because if the nonsense from the devs. It is just a matter of time for PWI to suffer the same fate as MY-EN if I am not mistaken that MY-EN is closed down for good.0 -
Black_wolve - Sanctuary wrote: »Iam used to the old ways collecting beads etc in delta none of this spawn point stuff it just seems as a lot of players seem to be in a rush to get things done.
Was wondering what "spawn point" meant now I know.. yeah F that. I don't like half *** runs..0 -
After reading this most interesting discussion, I would like to pose this question;
If PWI released a new server tomorrow, and offered us a chance to include and exclude whatever we want, what would you keep and what would you throw away?
Also would you want to move your current toons over or creating new one's from scratch, accepting this is the price you pay just to get the game to the way you want it.
Someone in our faction just recently declined an invitation to do their low level bh because they didn't want to level so quickly as to lose the challenge of doing as many of the level appropriate quests as they could in their quest log. And so it made me wonder, should we require a person do X number of quests before they are allowed to level.
And my other big change request would be personal loot. We go into Lunar, the boss is killed and I get my loot, you get your loot. Hell, I don't even see what everyone else gets. Blind loot eliminates much of the squabbling we see on these runs. If you don't need the molds on bh runs, fine drop them for the squad. In any case, I would see this as a great step in squashing out the childish behavior found on some of these runs.0 -
Reliea - Sanctuary wrote: »I agree. Especially about people being greedy and stupid.
It does really ruin the fun to think, ok, you can't do things with random squads and expect to get anything out of it. But at least in my opinion, it has always been that way.
Bound molds drive me crazy. Nothing like watching the mold you want go to someone who can't use it or doesn't need it because someone clicked too fast or something dumb like that. If no one in the squad can use it, it would be nice to see it go even to an alt or a friend who could use it. I would rather see things be used than taken by people to be sold, that should be an absolute last resort.
I always let people get the mold they need, that is, with faction/friends, and allow them the mold they need because I know they won't take what they don't need. This comes from the standpoint of people claiming "I need g16 dagger mold pls"....when they ALREADY have 1 or 2 or more in their bank and are being greedy to get it for their own profit of 50m+ later on. The unneeded molds I bank and NPC at the end of the WS/lunar runs and drop the coins from them. Only exception from this is someone WC'ing "Buying (G16 item) (amount of coins)" and we sell it to them and gain equal profit if no1 needs the mold for a alt.After reading this most interesting discussion, I would like to pose this question;
If PWI released a new server tomorrow, and offered us a chance to include and exclude whatever we want, what would you keep and what would you throw away?
Also would you want to move your current toons over or creating new one's from scratch, accepting this is the price you pay just to get the game to the way you want it.
I would start a new alt on new server and slowly work my way up, but keep DW as my main server regardless. And as we'll never have server transfer, so saying to move our current toons is a fantasy due to name database being messed up by that so we'll always have to start from scratch.0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »It is not exploiting.
So when does it become exploiting.
EoD at 10M. 20M. 50M.
Above numbers are just for the general idea.
It's subjective, but at a point it moves away from nice.0 -
So when does it become exploiting.
EoD at 10M. 20M. 50M.
Above numbers are just for the general idea.
It's subjective, but at a point it moves away from nice.
So it becomes exploiting when my custom that barely broke even with the lunar fee rises and I start gaining and is suddenly an evil thing? And the way it works should be automaticaly changed completely because of that? If so, then everything rewarding non-NW should be done in a different matter then. WS should have the EoF sold and split then. If anyone does nirvana still, the drops should be randomized then. Everytime a mold drops in WS/Lunar squads should be changed to random and whoever gets it, gets it. All this because NW came along. A little change in price/update changes nothing of how things work. Otherwise everything must change with it then according to your logic.0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »How to lunar today:
1. Get 3m
2. Invite trustworthy friends and faction members
3. Pay the 3m fee
4. Claim all mats including Essense of defense
5. ??????
6. Profit
EoD's on my server are now up to 8.5m so if your not smart enough(In coin making) and still do random runs your missing out...
The issue with your proposal that Valirah is saying, you get everything. Squad members get bh done.
In normal bh, the runs have drops and you get 100k~400k in drops.
In your way of lunar, people get 0 in terms of drops. If people need lunar mats for making something we always share. If no one wants their lunar mats and going to npc them, i gob them up because i am making lunar gear. Most of the lunar runs i do are not even on the bh path. We do card bosses in the lunar path and split the chi stones at times.
My situation is different from yours, i farm lunar with 3 other people always. The mats i farm are for our alts to be shared. For us it is a win win situation, in your set up, squad members feel neglected in my opinion.0 -
Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »The issue with your proposal that Valirah is saying, you get everything. Squad members get bh done.
In normal bh, the runs have drops and you get 100k~400k in drops.
In your way of lunar, people get 0 in terms of drops. If people need lunar mats for making something we always share. If no one wants their lunar mats and going to npc them, i gob them up because i am making lunar gear. Most of the lunar runs i do are not even on the bh path. We do card bosses in the lunar path and split the chi stones at times.
My situation is different from yours, i farm lunar with 3 other people always. The mats i farm are for our alts to be shared. For us it is a win win situation, in your set up, squad members feel neglected in my opinion.
Squad members get molds they are looking for. IDC for the molds unless its a certain one I need for an alt. I'll even NPC the ones people don't want and drop coins from them. So EoD's get a little profit raise, so what? You suddenly expect to gain a bonus from EoD value because price goes up when you get a free BH+molds you need+basic badge+unwanted mold coins? Sounds like you want a Utopia. That doesn't happen or we'd have a world where bills wouldn't mercilessly drain our money monthly and any job could get you enough cash to live a fancy life style.0 -
You claimed to be barely breaking even before, now, even holding Lunar mats aside, which could fetch 1-2m alone, selling the EoD nets you over 5M after factoring in the 3m entrance fee. An increase in revenue of 5m+ per 1/2 hour seems like a big enough change to warrant an adjustment to me.Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »So it becomes exploiting when my custom that barely broke even with the lunar fee rises and I start gaining and is suddenly an evil thing? And the way it works should be automaticaly changed completely because of that?Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »If so, then everything rewarding non-NW should be done in a different matter then. WS should have the EoF sold and split then. If anyone does nirvana still, the drops should be randomized then. Everytime a mold drops in WS/Lunar squads should be changed to random and whoever gets it, gets it. All this because NW came along. A little change in price/update changes nothing of how things work. Otherwise everything must change with it then according to your logic.
No idea on what you're going on about here. What is EoF? Did you mean EoO from War Song? Selling and splitting them is standard practice here. What does randomization have to do with anything? Random vs. Sell and Split are on equal footing. Each player participating has an equal stake, the same amount of loot is split between the same amount of players. Sell and Split is preferred because everyone goes home with the same loot after 1 run, rather than after 1000.0 -
Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »You claimed to be barely breaking even before, now, even holding Lunar mats aside, which could fetch 1-2m alone, selling the EoD nets you over 5M after factoring in the 3m entrance fee. An increase in revenue of 5m+ per 1/2 hour seems like a big enough change to warrant an adjustment to me.
No idea on what you're going on about here. What is EoF? Did you mean EoO from War Song? Selling and splitting them is standard practice here. What does randomization have to do with anything? Random vs. Sell and Split are on equal footing. Each player participating has an equal stake, the same amount of loot is split between the same amount of players. Sell and Split is preferred because everyone goes home with the same loot after 1 run, rather than after 1000.
I meant EoO, typo.
Then I guess we have server differences:
On my server all WS runs we randomize EoO, this is what I learned from my first few runs. I have yet to see anyone on my server sell and split the EoO. And generally on some practices, when during x2 2 dropped, the person who got the first dropped squad so someone else would get the 2nd afterwards.
I was saying in the past I was barely breaking even.
I'm honestly not surprised what server differences we have, not only dungeon names abbreivated(Delta, W2, W3, Goddess Valley), but the standard way of running dungeons themselves.0
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