New Mystic Skills???

skatermops

Hi!

As some of you may know barb and veno are getting new skills (http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2089073).

Therefore I am pretty sure that we also get some new skills.

Now to my question:
What new skills would you guys want to see on your skillbar? b:thanks

Lucy_a - Sanctuary

Can someone translate that?
Google translate died while trying to translate the page b:cry

skatermops

Lucy_a - Sanctuary wrote: »

Can someone translate that?
Google translate died while trying to translate the page b:cry

if you want more information on the veno/barb skills go to this thread:
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1413161&page=32

Lucy_a - Sanctuary

skatermops wrote: »

if you want more information on the veno/barb skills go to this thread:
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1413161&page=32

Thank you very much b:cute

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

I don't know about mystics , but i dont think they need more skills since they can do so many things properly

New pets for veno is always a welcome addition ^^

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't know about mystics , but i dont think they need more skills since they can do so many things properly

New pets for veno is always a welcome addition ^^

Yea, veno have only 55 different pets, it's so low, no choice, I think I'll leave my veno, 55 pets?? Why so not much choice?? QQ

Why they don't give us more? QQ

.. Seriously go cry on the veno section, it's the mystic one here.

We have 4 summon pets and one cost 2 sparks for 20 seconds, 4 summons, did you hear us cry we want more? You have over 55 choice of pets and you complain it's not enough...

b:bye

Xainou - Sanctuary

There's one thing I wouldn't mind: A long ranged aoe that doesn't seal. b:surrender

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Yea, veno have only 55 different pets, it's so low, no choice, I think I'll leave my veno, 55 pets?? Why so not much choice?? QQ

Why they don't give us more? QQ

.. Seriously go cry on the veno section, it's the mystic one here.

We have 4 summon pets and one cost 2 sparks for 20 seconds, 4 summons, did you hear us cry we want more? You have over 55 choice of pets and you complain it's not enough...

b:bye

They are never enough , especially when few of them can survive at lvl 80+ dungeons b:byeb:bye

Jeremied - Sanctuary

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Yea, veno have only 55 different pets, it's so low, no choice, I think I'll leave my veno, 55 pets?? Why so not much choice?? QQ

Why they don't give us more? QQ

.. Seriously go cry on the veno section, it's the mystic one here.

We have 4 summon pets and one cost 2 sparks for 20 seconds, 4 summons, did you hear us cry we want more? You have over 55 choice of pets and you complain it's not enough...

b:bye

I'm sorry, Bella, but well...this IS a thread asking for more mystic skills. <_< So yes, I hear you want more.

Your pets auto level, can go in every terrain type, are free, don't take up pet bag space, and gain epic defenses based on your own. No hours/days grinding for 15 exp per kill, no weeks spent farming fungus for one more free pet slot or wasting time leveling pets for different terrains.

On topic: I don't think mystics are going to get more skills anytime soon, that's the problem with being the new kids on the block. You're already moderately well balanced, if not considered a little op compared to the old classes.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm sorry, Bella, but well...this IS a thread asking for more mystic skills. <_< So yes, I hear you want more.

Your pets auto level, can go in every terrain type, are free, don't take up pet bag space, and gain epic defenses based on your own. No hours/days grinding for 15 exp per kill, no weeks spent farming fungus for one more free pet slot or wasting time leveling pets for different terrains.

On topic: I don't think mystics are going to get more skills anytime soon, that's the problem with being the new kids on the block. You're already moderately well balanced, if not considered a little op compared to the old classes.

The mystics asking for more are just morons that don't know their class cause mystic is already OP, but she post on a mystic threads saying veno need more pets.

Our summon pets have their problems too, often they stuck in the middle of nowhere so we need to summon them again, sometime the pets don't do the attack and we need to summon again (there's place we cannot summon them aswell), with a non AoE boss our summon pets don't die, but it's the same for veno's pets too. In a pull of AoE mobs our pets die too, I have decent gears and stats and my summon pets still die at place like ws and sot.

My mystic is level 102, I have 3rd nirvana recast armor, some pieces +10, some pieces shard with garnet, cube neck and warsong belt, here's the stats:

Storm Mistress:
HP: 4597
P.def: 4306
M.def: 6644
Evasion: 214

Devil Chihyu:
HP: 5239
P.def: 5376
M.def: 6109
Evasion: 214

Salvation:
HP: 4918
P.def: 4841
M.def: 6644
Evasion: 214

Now Venomancers (weak) pets:

Hercule (level 91):
HP: 4180
P.def: 9052
M.def: 7241
Evasion: 1238

Phoenix (level 83):
HP: 4138
P.def: 8252
M.def: 9902
Evasion: 1415

So if venomancer think that mystic's summon pets have way much more survivability than their pets, they are wrong, the hercule and nix have way much more survivability than our summon pet even if not level 100. (I really hope we will get snowman this Christmas cause I want to level my veno's pets. xD)

I'm telling you if one day they make the veno pets to be like ours with the gears/stats, you will see a bunch of veno come cry on the forum to get back as before.

The only thing I agree that mystic have more is a magic pet with a AoE, for the rest veno have more choice, better pets for survivability and they still complain, anyway with NW people don't do caster anymore so they don't need a magic pet.

I personally prefer play my mystic over my veno, but for the pets side I way much more prefer venomancer, they can stow their pets, they don't need a constant mp feed to get them to fight, they have way much more survivability, they have over 55 choices of pets, when they send the pet to lure the pet go straight not running every where on the left and right like mystic summon pets do (it's probably one of the thing I hate the must on mystic's pet control, the pet running every where).

skatermops

belle could you be so kind and explain me how mystics are OP?

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

skatermops wrote: »

belle could you be so kind and explain me how mystics are OP?

Fail troll is fail... b:shocked

skatermops

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Fail troll is fail... b:shocked

i was serious b:surrender

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

The mystics asking for more are just morons that don't know their class cause mystic is already OP, but she post on a mystic threads saying veno need more pets.

Our summon pets have their problems too, often they stuck in the middle of nowhere so we need to summon them again, sometime the pets don't do the attack and we need to summon again (there's place we cannot summon them aswell), with a non AoE boss our summon pets don't die, but it's the same for veno's pets too. In a pull of AoE mobs our pets die too, I have decent gears and stats and my summon pets still die at place like ws and sot.

My mystic is level 102, I have 3rd nirvana recast armor, some pieces +10, some pieces shard with garnet, cube neck and warsong belt, here's the stats:

Storm Mistress:
HP: 4597
P.def: 4306
M.def: 6644
Evasion: 214

Devil Chihyu:
HP: 5239
P.def: 5376
M.def: 6109
Evasion: 214

Salvation:
HP: 4918
P.def: 4841
M.def: 6644
Evasion: 214

Now Venomancers (weak) pets:

Hercule (level 91):
HP: 4180
P.def: 9052
M.def: 7241
Evasion: 1238

Phoenix (level 83):
HP: 4138
P.def: 8252
M.def: 9902
Evasion: 1415

So if venomancer think that mystic's summon pets have way much more survivability than their pets, they are wrong, the hercule and nix have way much more survivability than our summon pet even if not level 100. (I really hope we will get snowman this Christmas cause I want to level my veno's pets. xD)

I'm telling you if one day they make the veno pets to be like ours with the gears/stats, you will see a bunch of veno come cry on the forum to get back as before.

The only thing I agree that mystic have more is a magic pet with a AoE, for the rest veno have more choice, better pets for survivability and they still complain, anyway with NW people don't do caster anymore so they don't need a magic pet.

I personally prefer play my mystic over my veno, but for the pets side I way much more prefer venomancer, they can stow their pets, they don't need a constant mp feed to get them to fight, they have way much more survivability, they have over 55 choices of pets, when they send the pet to lure the pet go straight not running every where on the left and right like mystic summon pets do (it's probably one of the thing I hate the must on mystic's pet control, the pet running every where).

I'm sorry but you want mystic's pet to have more survivability? nix and herc costs how much to obtain? while mystic's summons are basicaly free just maybe a few mill to learn the skill. and mystics does not need to grind to lvl pet. venos work harder to obtain their pets, they even have to buy the skills to put in their pets while mystic doesnt have to. in ws, there's no way your pet will die if they are not tanking. Herc also die in ws ijs. and craglord is hella op. Mystic has it easy.

55 choices of pets, but have you check out their stats? they are nowhere near a herc's or nix's stat which cost quite a lot. and you need to buy cookies for loyalty points after they die in pvp or something which adds up. idk about you, but none of veno's pet can absorb dmg like sally. venos canot leech their pets and gain extra stats to defend themselves/deal more dmg.

Mystic's pets do not need to be more survivability.

colressmystico

We just need an AOE that doesnt seal, b:shocked

Eoria - Harshlands

colressmystico wrote: »

We just need an AOE that doesnt seal, b:shocked

This I will agree with with the addition of "not as skills on our summons".

Mystics really don't need any other skill changes besides that. They're pretty balanced as it is.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm sorry but you want mystic's pet to have more survivability? nix and herc costs how much to obtain? while mystic's summons are basicaly free just maybe a few mill to learn the skill. and mystics does not need to grind to lvl pet. venos work harder to obtain their pets, they even have to buy the skills to put in their pets while mystic doesnt have to. in ws, there's no way your pet will die if they are not tanking. Herc also die in ws ijs. and craglord is hella op. Mystic has it easy.

55 choices of pets, but have you check out their stats? they are nowhere near a herc's or nix's stat which cost quite a lot. and you need to buy cookies for loyalty points after they die in pvp or something which adds up. idk about you, but none of veno's pet can absorb dmg like sally. venos canot leech their pets and gain extra stats to defend themselves/deal more dmg.

Mystic's pets do not need to be more survivability.

Learn to read girl, I didn't asked for more survivability for summon pets, VENOMANCER ask to have their pets like us with the gears stats, i stated how wrong venomancer are to ask that since herc/nix have more survivability than our summon pets.

All veno that have the Dino (Sorry don't know if it's the real name) say the Dino is better than the herc, the Dino is free and already 101.

Dino (free)>Herc/nix>mystic summon.

I didn't ask nothing in that thread for mystic. I just say that venomancer should stop to ask to have all the same things than a mystic, if they want a mystic than they should reroll beside ask to have all our stuff. Our summon pets are one shot in PvP, all of them, so why you guys envy us so much about the summon pets?

Example yesterday in a full ws, the veno herc was surviving the pull while my pet was dying like a fly one shot, you must not done a lot of ws our summon pets die easy there, even at snake first AoE they are dead, go read again the part of the stats i wrote you seems like someone that quote me without read what I wrote. The herc/nix I used for stats are mine and not level 100 and already have better def stats than my mystic 102 summon pets.

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Learn to read girl, I didn't asked for more survivability for summon pets, VENOMANCER ask to have their pets like us with the gears stats, i stated how wrong venomancer are to ask that since herc/nix have more survivability than our summon pets. They are still 1 shot fodder in PVP. Most venos ask for upgrades in PVE enviroment at least for the herc whose aggro potential is next to nothing next to DPS classes.

All veno that have the Dino (Sorry don't know if it's the real name) say the Dino is better than the herc, the Dino is free and already 101.

Dino (free)>Herc/nix>mystic summon. Those venos are **** , Dino is a 1-2 shot fodder

I didn't ask nothing in that thread for mystic. I just say that venomancer should stop to ask to have all the same things than a mystic When did we ask that ? we just want a friendlier lvling system. Blame the chinese for making the pet stat system similar to summons , most venos didnt have that in mind.., if they want a mystic than they should reroll beside ask to have all our stuff. Our summon pets are one shot in PvP, all of them, so why you guys envy us so much about the summon pets? we don't , end of story , but there is difference between pets , summons and outdated pets.

Example yesterday in a full ws, the veno herc was surviving the pull while my pet was dying like a fly one shot, you must not done a lot of ws our summon pets die easy there, even at snake first AoE they are dead, go read again the part of the stats i wrote you seems like someone that quote me without read what I wrote. The herc/nix I used for stats are mine and not level 100 and already have better def stats than my mystic 102 summon pets.

Maybe you should read a bit as well.
After all , people will always demand and ***** about even when you give them everything

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Maybe you should read a bit as well.
After all , people will always demand and ***** about even when you give them everything

Oh for that, people always ask, it's never enough for them, mystics are already OP and as you can see some of them ask for more and even if veno will get 3 new pets (or version w/e it is) there's still venos complaining about how they look saying they are ugly besuide be happy to have new pets. (I personally think they look nice) xD

I saw often venos ask to get the pets stats with the gears like mystic cause they think that would be better.

Our summon pets are a one shot too in many place PvP and PvE, the only place they wasn't was Caster that is now a dead instance. xD

Summon pets have awesome stuff, but they are more weak than veno pets.

On HL everyone told me the dino is better than the herc, I didn't get it yet cause my veno is not 101, but HL's venos are kinda fail for the majority so yea, I do believe you if you say the dino is a fail pet and doesn't worth to tame and use it. Thank for saving me hours of camping the pet spawn since you say he suck I wont go get it. ^-^

Xainou - Sanctuary

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Example yesterday in a full ws, the veno herc was surviving the pull while my pet was dying like a fly one shot, you must not done a lot of ws our summon pets die easy there, even at snake first AoE they are dead,

Quite the opposite actually. o_o I never use my herc in WS, because I will be occupied healing it more than it's of use. Besides, on a full lane pull, there's just no way. lol
That's the moment I'm jealous of mystic. She drops cragglord and it lives.

And no, my storm mistress actually lives quite a few shots of snakes aoe at the start. o_o

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Quite the opposite actually. o_o I never use my herc in WS, because I will be occupied healing it more than it's of use. Besides, on a full lane pull, there's just no way. lol
That's the moment I'm jealous of mystic. She drops cragglord and it lives.

And no, my storm mistress actually lives quite a few shots of snakes aoe at the start. o_o

What gears you have? I have full 3rd recast +7 to +10 shard in immac and garnet and my storm die one shot by snake AoE. (unless it's cause she steal aggro, but I doubt it, I know I can't 3 spark on ws boss cause I steal aggro even if there's 3-4 5aps sins/bms)

For pull for the cragg it's kinda the same thing if we don't heal he die cause when we summon our pets they are half hp. (unless someone R9+12 don't need to heal at all, but I do need to heal my cragg or he die)

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

On HL everyone told me the dino is better than the herc, I didn't get it yet cause my veno is not 101, but HL's venos are kinda fail for the majority so yea, I do believe you if you say the dino is a fail pet and doesn't worth to tame and use it. Thank for saving me hours of camping the pet spawn since you say he suck I wont go get it. ^-^

Not sure if sarcasm or not O.o but

i didnt mean that dino is a fail pet , it is a great land DD pet far better than Dark wanderer or Variscose Scorpion , but it cant take hits like a herc. Caster Nirvana for example you will have to heal him every time it gets hit by an AOE cause another one will kill it. that means you will need Buff skills which will take the place of Debuffs or Elemental Bashes. Overall you lose effectiveness.

It's a good pet , but it's fragile against the big meanies. That's all.

To be honest i would prefer an upgrade to the rare pets stats than the legendaries , but that is just me.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

What gears you have? I have full 3rd recast +7 to +10 shard in immac and garnet and my storm die one shot by snake AoE.

R8/TT99 +5 with immac cits. Storm will die to aoe as he gets stronger, yes. But at the start she's perfectly fine o_o

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not sure if sarcasm or not O.o but

i didnt mean that dino is a fail pet , it is a great land DD pet far better than Dark wanderer or Variscose Scorpion , but it cant take hits like a herc. Caster Nirvana for example you will have to heal him every time it gets hit by an AOE cause another one will kill it. that means you will need Buff skills which will take the place of Debuffs or Elemental Bashes. Overall you lose effectiveness.

It's a good pet , but it's fragile against the big meanies. That's all.

To be honest i would prefer an upgrade to the rare pets stats than the legendaries , but that is just me.

Nah veno on HL are really stupid, we got that kind of veno that don't amp boss cause they like to DD and no amp=more long=more DD. (No joke some venos told me that)

Or veno that rage when you ask them to lure or veno that have no idea when purge.

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Storm will die to aoe as he gets stronger, yes. But at the start she's perfectly fine o_o

this^

I usually just use craglord for ws boss.

I find that devil has more survivability than mistress during this boss. but after craglord disappear, I dont summon another summon cos boss usually die by then.

I have +7 nv3 and my mistress do not die from mob aoe.