Necklaces broken --> Defiance (pls answer ONLY WHO KNOWS)

Dartwave - Sanctuary
Dartwave - Sanctuary Posts: 114 Arc User
edited November 2012 in General Discussion
Do the upgrade from g16 broken to g16 defiance keep the old refine? An Answer from a qualified person would be appreciated thx .

p.s : same for rings and helmets i suppose ?
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  • augustfinknottle
    augustfinknottle Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Dartwave - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Do the upgrade from g16 broken to g16 defiance keep the old refine? An Answer from a qualified person would be appreciated thx .

    p.s : same for rings and helmets i suppose ?

    I don't believe anyone knows that for sure yet to give you a proper answer without the need of at least a bit of guess as in "in China it's like this, not sure if ours is the same", since they made some tweaks when it comes to the gears we got.
  • Dartwave - Sanctuary
    Dartwave - Sanctuary Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    yep i imagined .. it just sounds unbelievable that someone from the game stuff doesn't know it at all ... looks like they are hosting a game " unknown" to themselves lol
    or maybe they " don't want" to give us such an information... who knows >.<
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    GMs don't awnser these trivial questions, and it's impossible for anyone in game to have gotten them yet
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Dartwave - Sanctuary wrote: »
    yep i imagined .. it just sounds unbelievable that someone from the game stuff doesn't know it at all ... looks like they are hosting a game " unknown" to themselves lol
    or maybe they " don't want" to give us such an information... who knows >.<

    This is largely a "figure it out on your own" game in that there is no instruction on how to play or what to do from the publish aside from help dialogs at the beginning or talking to npcs.

    As stated nobody who plays would have enough mats from NvN to answer your question, but i wouldnt hold out any hope that refines are transferred, at least for free
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    augustfinknottle wrote: »
    I don't believe anyone knows that for sure yet to give you a proper answer without the need of at least a bit of guess as in "in China it's like this, not sure if ours is the same", since they made some tweaks when it comes to the gears we got.

    Knowing what happens with china wouldnt help since our forges are totally different than theirs.

    Fortunately it's not really that difficult to look this stuff up.
    The Puzzle badge defiance recipe transfers refine at 40% of the default chienkun value. This is the same cost as making G13 nirvana gear.

    So for a +12 refine (which has a default refine transfer cost of 1000 chienkuns) you would need 400 chienkun.

    By comparison:

    R9 third cast Weapon = 80% rate
    G15 Nirvana = 60% rate
    R9 third cast armor = 50% rate
    G13 Nirvana = 40% rate
    Rerolling R9 3rd cast / G16 Nirv = 10% rate

    Every upgrade option in the NW forge uses the 40% rate including warsoul weapon upgrades.
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  • Dartwave - Sanctuary
    Dartwave - Sanctuary Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Knowing what happens with china wouldnt help since our forges are totally different than theirs.

    Fortunately it's not really that difficult to look this stuff up.
    The Puzzle badge defiance recipe transfers refine at 40% of the default chienkun value. This is the same cost as making G13 nirvana gear.

    So for a +12 refine (which has a default refine transfer cost of 1000 chienkuns) you would need 400 chienkun.

    By comparison:

    R9 third cast Weapon = 80% rate
    G15 Nirvana = 60% rate
    R9 third cast armor = 50% rate
    G13 Nirvana = 40% rate
    Rerolling R9 3rd cast / G16 Nirv = 10% rate

    Every upgrade option in the NW forge uses the 40% rate including warsoul weapon upgrades.



    thanks a lot asty

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