Any rank 9 sins hit 5 aps yet?

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Ladyhellcatq - Dreamweaver
Ladyhellcatq - Dreamweaver Posts: 132 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Assassin
This patch makes it look like rank 9 final cast and recast 8 is gonna be the new super awesome killing machine.

time to get myself some rank 8 recast and start rolling after getting rank 9 2nd weapon.
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  • augustfinknottle
    augustfinknottle Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    Ladyhellcatq - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This patch makes it look like rank 9 final cast and recast 8 is gonna be the new super awesome killing machine.

    time to get myself some rank 8 recast and start rolling after getting rank 9 2nd weapon.

    Good luck on triple interval chest or double interval boots. You'll need it.

    The thing with sins is they need -0.1 int more than BMs to be 5aps with -0.05 int weapon. Those -0.1 come from your R8 chestpiece. Pants must be nirvana, 2 pieces of each TT99 and tome. Those are mandatory for a sin, but not for a BM.

    So, since you can't change the pants or the chestpiece to retain interval, and you get -0.05 from having both LA boots and wrists, you just can't change any piece of gear unless you get extremely lucky with 3x interval on chest or 2x interval on boots. Ridiculously hard.
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    R9 sins can not be 5 aps. Using a R9 weapon and going for an aps set is a different story. Maybe it is the bm world that is so different. We don't talk about r9 bm being 5 aps. Sure some use the chest, belt and ring combo to be 5 aps, but we don't call them r9 5 aps bm. We just call them bm, or 5 aps bm.
  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    The R9 0.10 daggers will not be in our version. Don't count on being r9 and 5aps. Neither will the 0.05 int Emperor tome be restored to 0.10. It was nerfed in all PW versions.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    R8r has a set bonus of -.1 for 3 pieces. So all you'd need for 3.33 base is r8r armor with 2 x -int, and r8r boots with 1 x -.05 int. The set bonus would boost the total to -.25 + cape, tome, and HA ornies gives you -.4 int for 3.33 aps base using r9 daggers.

    Its a 1:20 chance for single -int on the plate, and I believe 1:563 chance for double -int. Its a 1 in 208 chance for -int on the boots.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    What Saku said.

    It's been a goal of mine before R9r2 and T3 Nirvana came out, but it has been set aside since I've been aiming for R9r for a while now.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
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    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Its a 1:20 chance for single -int on the plate, and I believe 1:563 chance for double -int. Its a 1 in 208 chance for -int on the boots.

    Technically it's 1:21, since you ought to round up.

    I have no clue where the **** you got 1:563 for 2x -0.05, because I got 1:1140.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Technically it's 1:21, since you ought to round up.

    I have no clue where the **** you got 1:563 for 2x -0.05, because I got 1:1140.

    1.72% x 3 = 5.16% chance. 1/.0516 = 19.38. So 1 in 19.38 on multiple attempts, but rounding up would be 1:20.

    I new my math was wrong for 2 x -int but its normally not far off and I was too tired to look through old statistics notes for the right equation (Something like 1- (3 x 2^(1-.0176)) but I can't remember the exact equation). Anyhoo, what I did was 5.16% for one chance, the second -int can be in two places but only needs one -int so 2 x .0176 = 3.52% chance. So .0516 x .0352 = .00182 = 1/551.

    Like I said, reasoned but probably not accurate. Too lazy to hunt the statistical 'pick one' equation.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
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    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1.72% x 3 = 5.16% chance. 1/.0516 = 19.38. So 1 in 19.38 on multiple attempts, but rounding up would be 1:20.

    I new my math was wrong for 2 x -int but its normally not far off and I was too tired to look through old statistics notes for the right equation (Something like 1- (3 x 2^(1-.0176)) but I can't remember the exact equation). Anyhoo, what I did was 5.16% for one chance, the second -int can be in two places but only needs one -int so 2 x .0176 = 3.52% chance. So .0516 x .0352 = .00182 = 1/551.

    Like I said, reasoned but probably not accurate. Too lazy to hunt the statistical 'pick one' equation.

    I see, I see.

    Just a few notes:

    For the 1x -0.05, you should do: 3*0.0172*(1-0.0172)^2. That would get you 0.049840225344, or 1:20.06. Of course, it gets more complicated if you want to count 2x-0.05 and 3x -0.05 into it.

    As for the 2x -0.05, it's actually 3*(1-0.0172)*0.0172^2, getting you 0.000872254656, or 1:1,146.45, rounded to 1:1,147. Here, I decided to be fully accurate and add in the 0.0172^3, which makes it 1:1,139.81, or 1:1,140.

    Basically, the odds aren't quite that simple. You can't just take the odds for the interval and decide that the remainders are 100%.

    But honestly, it doesn't matter much. As long as it's beyond 1:200, most people will never get it. And that's the point people are putting up here.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
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    I'm going for it Olbaze! D:
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  • Brivido - Dreamweaver
    Brivido - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
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    <--another fool going for it b:victory
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
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    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I was too tired to look through old statistics notes for the right equation (Something like 1- (3 x 2^(1-.0176)) but I can't remember the exact equation).

    Too lazy to hunt the statistical 'pick one' equation.
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it's actually 3*(1-0.0172)*0.0172^2,

    Yep, that one. Like I said, I could have looked it up but was tired and getting 1:551 odds was enough to show people "never gonna happen." But thanks for the right formula.
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But honestly, it doesn't matter much. As long as it's beyond 1:200, most people will never get it. And that's the point people are putting up here.

    This.
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