Level 9 Tome set original stat -0.1 int petition

RexNero - Dreamweaver

Chinese version of lev 9 tome have -0.1 int our only -0.05 like a lev 6 pangu tome btw all other stat are ok. Why did you descrease int on end game tome and not care about channeling stat for exemple or critical.

I want remeber aps class like sin now are already heavy under powerder then arcane class. A good APS LA sin take 1 shot from a wiz or an good psy.

And if a sin want take a recast set full r9 have only 1.33 APS if lev tome was -0.1 still have only 1.43 APS and with new dagger -0.1 int will be only 1.67 APS at all (not so fast)

with actually tome will be 1.54 APS. So why care only abou underpower sin aps and not care about overpower purify spell skill of arcane recast or SOV SOV or arcane defence of wiz?

Is a joke, i hope you stop downgrade meele class pls

CapnK - Sanctuary

No. Just no.

And it was changed to -.05 on Chinese version also. Even they realized it was ridiculous.

MANray_ - Sanctuary

Apparently much about this expansion centers on rebalancing the game, you've got to be kidding if you think aps is getting the short end of the stick RELATIVE to other players/classes.

And underpowered sin aps? Are you trolling?

Lecus - Lost City

105 Sins never are trolling when it comes to APS since thats pretty much all they can do.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

It gets better.
That new R9 recast dagger can't even be made in game, so you can't even get that. Poor poor underpowered sins

RexNero - Dreamweaver

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

No. Just no.

And it was changed to -.05 on Chinese version also. Even they realized it was ridiculous.

I think is still -0.1 on chinese version if you have any screen post here pls. On official website is still 0.1.

Anyway is redicouls that a sin 4-5 aps have alost 0 chance to kill a wiz r9 recast purify spell + arcane defence make a wiz OP every 2-3 hit he jump or run way and purified if have a good def lev a 12 r9 dagger can hit only for 1k x 3 hit 3k they have 20k hp = impossible for a sin fight with a wiz recast end game.

Sound ridicoulus yes

RexNero - Dreamweaver

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It gets better.
That new R9 recast dagger can't even be made in game, so you can't even get that. Poor poor underpowered sins

U and ppl like you make me fun i have 11 r9 toons and all class so i not worry about my underpower sin but i worry about a fair play game not is fun and not belanced for all class.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I think is still -0.1 on chinese version if you have any screen post here pls. On official website is still 0.1.

Anyway is redicouls that a sin 4-5 aps have alost 0 chance to kill a wiz r9 recast purify spell + arcane defence make a wiz OP every 2-3 hit he jump or run way and purified if have a good def lev a 12 r9 dagger can hit only for 1k x 3 hit 3k they have 20k hp = impossible for a sin fight with a wiz recast end game.

Sound redicolous yes

You realize arcane defence only triggers when you use normal attacks right? Just spam your skills and it's not a factor.
Since you are so awesome with 11 R9 toons, you obviusly know how to use skills.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Lol, nope.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Anyway is redicouls that a sin 4-5 aps have alost 0 chance to kill a wiz r9 recast purify spell + arcane defence

No sh*t, sherlock.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No sh*t, sherlock.

Actually I would highlight arcane defence to. Since that skill is specificly designed to **** with APSers

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Actually I would highlight arcane defence to. Since that skill is specificly designed to **** with APSers

There we go b:chuckle

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There we go b:chuckle

Aaw, now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside b:cute

FayHumming - Dreamweaver

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Chinese version of lev 9 tome have -0.1 int our only -0.05 like a lev 6 pangu tome btw all other stat are ok. Why did you descrease int on end game tome and not care about channeling stat for exemple or critical.

I want remeber aps class like sin now are already heavy under powerder then arcane class. A good APS LA sin take 1 shot from a wiz or an good psy.

And if a sin want take a recast set full r9 have only 1.33 APS if lev tome was -0.1 still have only 1.43 APS and with new dagger -0.1 int will be only 1.67 APS at all (not so fast)

with actually tome will be 1.54 APS. So why care only abou underpower sin aps and not care about overpower purify spell skill of arcane recast or SOV SOV or arcane defence of wiz?

Is a joke, i hope you stop downgrade meele class pls

b:chuckle pwcn lvl 9 tome is -.05 and stop reading all fake stuff been post up.

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver

No. Nation Wars already broke the economy and made once hard to get endgame gear(Nirvy/g16) SUPER easy to get instantly. We don't need another unbalancing thing ingame.

Veneir - Dreamweaver

No.
/9chars.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

Aww poor 4.0 r9 sin how on earth will u kill stuff now?

Flamespirit - Dreamweaver

Lol the OP has a all +12 rank 9 barb and psy as well as pretty much all the other classes.

Yes, sins have got he short end of the stick now. Psy, wizards, and archers are the way of the future since the main farming instance is now a mass pvp one.

Laphroaig - Raging Tide

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Chinese version of lev 9 tome have -0.1 int our only -0.05 like a lev 6 pangu tome btw all other stat are ok. Why did you descrease int on end game tome and not care about channeling stat for exemple or critical.

I want remeber aps class like sin now are already heavy under powerder then arcane class. A good APS LA sin take 1 shot from a wiz or an good psy.

And if a sin want take a recast set full r9 have only 1.33 APS if lev tome was -0.1 still have only 1.43 APS and with new dagger -0.1 int will be only 1.67 APS at all (not so fast)

with actually tome will be 1.54 APS. So why care only abou underpower sin aps and not care about overpower purify spell skill of arcane recast or SOV SOV or arcane defence of wiz?

Is a joke, i hope you stop downgrade meele class pls

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

U and ppl like you make me fun i have 11 r9 toons and all class so i not worry about my underpower sin but i worry about a fair play game not is fun and not belanced for all class.

There is a saying we have in the states when it comes to boasting about pixels in a game...and that would be...


*Golf clap*

RexNero - Dreamweaver

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You realize arcane defence only triggers when you use normal attacks right? Just spam your skills and it's not a factor.
Since you are so awesome with 11 R9 toons, you obviusly know how to use skills.

The best attack for an aps sin is use normal attack. For kill any player with 100+ def lev and a good phis def u can't kill using only skills becouse maxed damage is 2k need 5 hit for tick a charm. so need a demon spark and high aps for kill before hp charm cd but when you try sleep-stun-freeze seal and all other debuff after u hit a target with purify spel he gor purify avarage after 3-4 hit and free holy path.

Damage of skill is nothing 2k vs 20-30k that u receive

Is a different story self buff anyway wiz self buff have more advantage then a sin self buff (phis def increase and hearth resistence buff - arcane def - water damage add - critical reduction vs deaden - tidal - BP.

BUt i not want talk about class PvP i want talk about if is right or not decrease int stat on a lev 9 tome and make it like a Pan - gu

RexNero - Dreamweaver

FayHumming - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:chuckle pwcn lvl 9 tome is -.05 and stop reading all fake stuff been post up.

this image say opposite

http://img5.178.com/w2i/201208/140056974052/140058639121.jpg

0.05 on lev8

LEV 9 int stat after - 5% chan stat (-0.1)
http://img2.178.com/w2i/201208/140056974052/140058646175.jpg

FatherTed - Dreamweaver

Laphroaig - Raging Tide wrote: »

*Golf clap*

Good sir . . .

you have my approval.

FayHumming - Dreamweaver

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

this image say opposite

http://img5.178.com/w2i/201208/140056974052/140058639121.jpg

0.05 on lev8

LEV 9 int stat after - 5% chan stat (-0.1)
http://img2.178.com/w2i/201208/140056974052/140058646175.jpg

b:chuckle These are the test version of the release on pwcn. pwcn release beta test for people to try. After test, they nerft it.

PWCN lvl 9 tome is -.05 on finally release same as our.

RexNero - Dreamweaver

FayHumming - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:chuckle These are the test version of the release on pwcn. pwcn release beta test for people to try. After test, they nerft it.

PWCN lvl 9 tome is -.05 on finally release same as our.

Also if was a test original stat was -0.1 no point for me to downgrade it. Is like -5% chan make OP any arcane and for this they downgrade to 1%

Adaugeo - Dreamweaver

Guys, enough with poking fun at his English; Rex DOES have a point.

I have a cleric who has had purify stat on weapon for a long time now, via rank 8 reforge. Even with my very not-endgame gear (+10 with immacs, r9 armor) aps sins have real difficulty in killing me, whereas I can still one shot most aps sins.

Now imagine me in now much-easier-to-get r9 3rd cast. All that coin ppl have been saving up for upgrading gear now goes to refines and gems instead. Whereas the aps sin is still pretty much the same, I'm much much harder to kill, and additionally, I can one shot any aps sin multiple times over.

I have a 105 assassin. I have a 102 sage cleric, and a 101 demon cleric. Guess which character I feel is worth investing in? The sage cleric ofc. APS is going nowhere not that purify weapons will become common, and the average gear of people is going to markedly improve. The aps build is becoming less and less functional in pk, since it has almost no tankability.

Cheers.

FayHumming - Dreamweaver

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Also if was a test original stat was -0.1 no point for me to downgrade it. Is like -5% chan make OP any arcane and for this they downgrade to 1%

b:chuckle There are reason why it nerf it. Will never come back.

RexNero - Dreamweaver

Adaugeo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Whereas the aps sin is still pretty much the same, I'm much much harder to kill, and additionally, I can one shot any aps sin multiple times over.

I have a 105 assassin.

Cheers.

So you agree with me... if APS is so unusefull in PvP why dowgrade it on new tome? You can continue kill the poor sin wth your cleric over and over anyway.
Really can't understand why ppl are so scared of Sin and their APS

but not care about 40k magic attack ppl unbuffed and 180 attack level

Particle - Lost City

Your point is all well and good about aps sins having a harder time to kill people once they get better gear, but have you considered that someone that relies on aps, and hence needing to use vastly outdated HH99 gear, should actually take a lot of damage from rank 9 and it's recasts? A wizard in a mix of HH99 gear, nirvana pants and a rank 9 weapon would get ***** by anyone with 3rd cast rank 9, as would any class, so why should sins be compensated because the aps mechanic is becoming less effective and they finally have to upgrade from 2010 gear to be more viable in pvp?

truekossy

What the guy above me said.

APS is finally becoming less and less effective, just as the devs promised. Adjust to the direction the game is moving in and go on with your life. You'll become a much better player for it.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

It really is funny that someone would expect to beat a full R9 recast while wearing TT99 gear b:laugh

Geckofreak - Sanctuary

LOL this update is just trolltastic

Sins QQing about being underpowered? WIN

PW designed Sins to go sage, and use chill of the deep and debuffs to keep enemies locked and kill them, aps was just an unfortunate occurance. if your worried about being too squishy to beat an r999 wizard, go full r999 yourself, i garentee that an full r999 sin will be even more deadly then an r999 wizard. its just that the difficulty curve on playing a sin is so much lower then every other class that the people who play sins excluvesively end up lowering their iQ to the point that they cant do anything other then cry when their source of income is removed and their PvP dominance isnt given an increase.

almost all the QQers currently for this update are assassins it seems. OMG VANA IS DEAD who cares, it needed to be killed a long time ago. OMG I DONT GET SUPER APS ON TOME, seriously? you need to be even more overpowered? they give you a tome with 45 dex, 45 str, 45 mag, 400 hp, 3% crit, speed, 5% channeling, and aps and you complain about it not being good enough?

this is borderline pathetic, please stop making a fool of yourselves. this update is the best thing pwi has done since its original release. certainly much better then releasing a class as overpowered as assassins in the first place. the release of assassins killed off more of the game population then this update has with all the assassins threatening to quit because they lose their utter dominance of the games economy and the the games open world PvP.

all i can say is Great Job PWIb:victory