Basics of NW.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver
Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Nation Wars
Someone suggested that I make a thread about NW, so I'm going to quote myself from another thread. If you have any questions ask and I'll try to answer them I suppose, anyway...


I'm not sure how you go about attacking someone else, got in late and didn't pay attention to that. What I do know is this.


When you get in it'll tell you how to get into the battles, you press M to open the map then click on the area you wish to attack/defend if your nation is involved in a battle there. It'll give you a pop-up telling you how long until you arrive, don't close your map or it cancels this and you have to do it again.

Once you're in the battle you have a total of 5 respawns, if you die a 6th time you're teleported out of that battle zone.

These battles are a game of capture the flag, fairly straightforward. Pick up the flag closest to your end of the zone, take it to the enemy's side without dying. If you die it resets. If you get your flag to your opponents side you get a point, whoever has more points wins.

Now for the part you really want, the damage. When you do damage you get contribution, more damage = more points = more tokens at the end of the game. When each battle ends it will tell you the total contribution of everyone on the team and your personal contribution.

There's a set amount of tokens to go out (ours was 45.7k or so) and the amount of contribution you get determines your share. Some people will get 70, some will get 500+, others will get none. Just depends on your damage as far as I can tell. You may get points for bringing a flag to the enemy's zone, but I didn't get a chance to get a flag there so I don't know.

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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I hate you nowitsawn.

    See? Helping people isn't that bad, now is it? b:cute
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    See? Helping people isn't that bad, now is it? b:cute

    I.. I don't feel so well.
  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    sounds like loads of fun, hoping for mass participation
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Where exactly are the flags positioned on the map?
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Erm which time should these NW start?
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Do note that most questions can be answered by the NW NPC (next to the forges).

    He's actually surprisingly informative.
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Where exactly are the flags positioned on the map?

    Just north or south of your base depending on whether or not you're defending. You grab it then continue north or south to get it to the enemy's base.
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Erm which time should these NW start?

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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Uh so for sanctuary server is currently 15.32 pm and in Central Europe its 00.33 am....that means 5 am for me ? b:angry

    Basically now to farm in this game I have to get up at 5 am (or stay up the whole night) --- AWESOME!
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Where do you enter? The little NPC by the forges?
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Where do you enter? The little NPC by the forges?

    Yesir, he'll have a quest to get a pass that will allow you to enter. Once you enter, if you leave you cannot get back in.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hmmm... so contribution (and thus tokens awarded) is based on your total damage output, eh ?

    Sounds like this instance is heavily biased towards the aoe classes then, since their total damage contribution (aoeing entire groups for instance) will always be much greater than the single point damage classes (Sins b:laugh).
  • dog10250
    dog10250 Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    We can't die 6 times in the whole 2 hours? Or per match of 25 and it restarts?
  • Simi_P - Dreamweaver
    Simi_P - Dreamweaver Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I have a question:) If you get killed, can/do you drop stuff that isn't bound?? Or is it like TW, where you don't lose things? I didn't see that mentioned anywhere.

    Thank you!
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    dog10250 wrote: »
    We can't die 6 times in the whole 2 hours? Or per match of 25 and it restarts?

    It's per battle.
    Simi_P - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I have a question:) If you get killed, can/do you drop stuff that isn't bound?? Or is it like TW, where you don't lose things? I didn't see that mentioned anywhere.

    Thank you!

    You don't drop anything. The only thing you'll lose are pots you use and your charms, if you use them. Which I recommend by the way, or you won't last very long.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    How good is the "balancing system" it claims to have? Were you fighting people way better or worse geared than you?

    And also I've heard if you crash or DC you can't get back in, know if that's true?
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  • Toomaga - Heavens Tear
    Toomaga - Heavens Tear Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    If this damage based, does this mean basically arcanes have somewhat of an advantage ;o?
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    How good is the "balancing system" it claims to have? Were you fighting people way better or worse geared than you?


    And also I've heard if you crash or DC you can't get back in, know if that's true?

    When I first entered we were getting destroyed, but later as the game progressed we started to hold our own and took quite a few lands. I noticed we had more R9s later in the game than we had before. I think it sends people to the side that's losing the hardest in order to help keep things as even as possible. I have no idea how the balancing system actually works.

    I don't know, I didn't dc. A friend of mine that was doing the event logged off during it, but said he got tokens when it was over. So, I'm not 100% sure but it might be setup so that if you dc/log out you stay where you were. Again, don't quote me on that because I have no honest idea.
    Toomaga - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If this damage based, does this mean basically arcanes have somewhat of an advantage ;o?

    Arcanes were doing quite well from what I saw. As long as you get a lot of damage out without dying you'll be fine. I also forgot to mention, it keeps track of how long you fight. So fight time is most likely a factor in determining your points as well. So it's probably better to keep hunting down your enemy instead of trying to do hit and runs.
  • Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver
    Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'm a little confused on the whole 'balancing' thingy myself..
    I thought the npc split all the people who signed up into equal groups, but here I am seeing factions and all the 100+ people squading up....

    confuuuuused x.x
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  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So how do you avoid being put into random squads? Would like to stay with my own little squad for NW if possible.
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So how do you avoid being put into random squads? Would like to stay with my own little squad for NW if possible.

    If you start as a squad before talking to npc, you will stay in that squad. If you go individually, you get split up in the four nations. Not sure if after you enter, whether you squad remains for the whole tw, or you get split up for your nation. I am guessing you remain together.

    I ninjaed b:cool
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So how do you avoid being put into random squads? Would like to stay with my own little squad for NW if possible.

    You can pick ONE squad to go with. You will at least be in the same nation.
    Whether or not you're in the same battles though, that I dunno.
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  • Nahktuul - Archosaur
    Nahktuul - Archosaur Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    How many total people participate in this event? Is it limited space, like CoA? Where you don't get to go in after so many enter?
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  • dog10250
    dog10250 Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nahktuul - Archosaur wrote: »
    How many total people participate in this event? Is it limited space, like CoA? Where you don't get to go in after so many enter?

    Everyone on my server is stalking NPC so hope it's everyone able to do it...or people will be angry.
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nahktuul - Archosaur wrote: »
    How many total people participate in this event? Is it limited space, like CoA? Where you don't get to go in after so many enter?

    COA is limited? Never knew, i thought as many could enter. Some times it glitched and won't let people enter, but never thought it had a player cap on it. Never reached on sanctuary from what i recall. Not many people do coa though.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    You can pick ONE squad to go with. You will at least be in the same nation.
    Whether or not you're in the same battles though, that I dunno.

    Your squad is sent to the same nation as you said, the battles however aren't random. You can choose which battle you wish to participate in.
    Nahktuul - Archosaur wrote: »
    How many total people participate in this event? Is it limited space, like CoA? Where you don't get to go in after so many enter?

    As far as I know there was no limit, that or we didn't hit the cap. It is Lothranis afterall.
    Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »
    COA is limited? Never knew, i thought as many could enter. Some times it glitched and won't let people enter, but never thought it had a player cap on it. Never reached on sanctuary from what i recall. Not many people do coa though.

    CoA has a 100 person limit. Or something like that, it's been like 5 months since I last looked up anything about CoA. It does have a limit though.
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    CoA has a 100 person limit. Or something like that, it's been like 5 months since I last looked up anything about CoA. It does have a limit though.

    Thank, i knew some pk events had limits, wasn't sure about coa :).
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    im gonna assume that if you made a 10 man squad and you wanted to migrate after your first win to another territory, then 10 spots have to be open or ...

    heres the question

    non of the 10 get to go in?

    or

    a random number of the 10 squad gets in? (first come first serve)

    (basically having to split up after your first win/loss)
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  • Nahktuul - Archosaur
    Nahktuul - Archosaur Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    im gonna assume that if you made a 10 man squad and you wanted to migrate after your first win to another territory, then 10 spots have to be open or ...

    heres the question

    non of the 10 get to go in?

    or

    a random number of the 10 squad gets in? (first come first serve)

    (basically having to split up after your first win/loss)

    that is my other question....10 man squads are allowed?

    (thank you for all your help, I am really excited for this event)
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    im gonna assume that if you made a 10 man squad and you wanted to migrate after your first win to another territory, then 10 spots have to be open or ...

    heres the question

    non of the 10 get to go in?

    or

    a random number of the 10 squad gets in? (first come first serve)

    (basically having to split up after your first win/loss)

    You can re-join later at different territories, so if you get split up it most likely won't be for long unless you all just want to go to different areas, though if that's the case I have no clue why you'd be squadded in the first place.

    I assume that once that first person gets in it teleports everyone to the same Nation, or maybe the squad leader takes the quest and everyone is ported in. I don't know how Nation Wars works with placing squad because I went in alone.

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