Demon archers...

linkism
linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Archer
So... is anything for demon archer going to be modified, or were you pushing for everyone to turn sage? The entire reasons for going demon were crit and attack speed bonuses. Now, sage gets more crit, and the attack speed remains a chance. If it weren't already adding insult to injury, their stun is increased even longer. So now, sage archers have crit, pure damage, more range, tons more chi, more CC, and more elemental damage skills than demon. Would pwi like to refund me the cost of my demon skills and hook me up with a schism plz?

Is there any hope of more rebalancing? Or is this going to be like every other previous patch and its hopeless?
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Idk about you, but I am still not going to go sage b:puzzled
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    And so you're butthurt that sage is on equal terms with demon now...?
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  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    How is a 50% chance to boost aps by .2 equal to all of the above?
  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And so you're butthurt that sage is on equal terms with demon now...?

    'equal'
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  • Wytche - Harshlands
    Wytche - Harshlands Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You know what's funny Shootn? .......You're DEMON.
  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ya, it is pretty funny. It's amusing that a demon archer could kill a superiorly geared sage archer. Now, they're buffing sage archers even further, amazing.
  • ArmaniEx - Harshlands
    ArmaniEx - Harshlands Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    They won't increase the chance of proc on qs man.


    Honestly, look it took 3 years for a skill "rebalance"


    With 3rd tier the amount of crit that a sage EA pushes will be 50%+ meaning press f1 and ppl drop.
  • Wytche - Harshlands
    Wytche - Harshlands Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    linkism wrote: »
    Ya, it is pretty funny. It's amusing that a *sage* archer could kill a superiorly geared *demon* archer. Now, they're buffing sage archers even further, amazing.

    Ffixed.
  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Wytche - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ffixed.

    First off, you've never been inferiorly geared to anyone, and you've still managed to die to my archer many many times, up until you recasted. Second, just because you're too dumb to utilize your range advantage doesn't mean that sage is inferior lol.
  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ArmaniEx - Harshlands wrote: »
    They won't increase the chance of proc on qs man.


    Honestly, look it took 3 years for a skill "rebalance"


    With 3rd tier the amount of crit that a sage EA pushes will be 50%+ meaning press f1 and ppl drop.

    Not expecting them to change qs proc, would just hope for some sort of balancing, this patch is pretty one-sided.
    I guess after the tideborn patch and refusal to do any balancing there, i'm just wasting my breath.
  • arh1988
    arh1988 Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    switch to sage ShootnBlank, u will maybe have a chance to kill ppl then. b:shutup
  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    arh1988 wrote: »
    switch to sage ShootnBlank, u will maybe have a chance to kill ppl then. b:shutup

    I've been planning on it ever since i saw the skill changes 3 months back. Just having issues patching now, file says corrupt -.-
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I was gonna feel bad for Demon Psys cause they got shafted too and didn't get any of the DoT boosts that sage got.

    But then I remembered you'd have to be god damn **** to go demon Psy in the first place so I just laughed my *** off.
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  • ArmaniEx - Harshlands
    ArmaniEx - Harshlands Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    **** going to be madddddddddddd we removed his sageness to return it xD
  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ArmaniEx - Harshlands wrote: »
    **** going to be madddddddddddd we removed his sageness to return it xD

    Haha.. so bad lol
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Idk about you, but I am still not going to go sage b:puzzled

    +1 to this. >_>;
  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    demon archers still get a crit buff and have higher base crit and a higher interval boa etc etc.

    It's as equal as it's going to get.
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  • angellicdeity
    angellicdeity Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Demon and Sage are on equal footing now.

    Though I don't see why you would continue investing in the Archer class when it is clearly inferior to the fish. Invest the same amount of time/gear you do in an archer in a fish, and you'll find your fish outperforming your archer 2x maybe even 3x.
  • NestFreemark - Raging Tide
    NestFreemark - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    Demon and Sage are on equal footing now.

    Though I don't see why you would continue investing in the Archer class when it is clearly inferior to the fish. Invest the same amount of time/gear you do in an archer in a fish, and you'll find your fish outperforming your archer 2x maybe even 3x.

    Maybe because archers are funb:puzzled An assassin might have the advantage in PVE, but an archer is still awesome in PVP. A sin and archer of equal skill and gear are pretty much on par with one another.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It's as equal as it's going to get.

    If you wanted to make sage and demon equal, all that was needed was a change to sage qs that's like a 50% chance to get 10% crit. Or if we want to keep in line with sage being DPH and demon being DPS, a 50% chance to increase patk by 10%. Sorta like the revenge proc you can get on 2nd recast Nirv claws. Absolutely no change was needed other than that.
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  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    NestFreemark - Raging Tide wrote: »
    A sin and archer of equal skill and gear are pretty much on par with one another.

    An archer would kill way more in TW and in NW.

    If you wanted to make sage and demon equal, all that was needed was a change to sage qs that's like a 50% chance to get 10% crit. Or if we want to keep in line with sage being DPH and demon being DPS, a 50% chance to increase patk by 10%. Sorta like the revenge proc you can get on 2nd recast Nirv claws. Absolutely no change was needed other than that.


    Demon has 2 crit procing skills and quickshot.

    i dont see how giving us one buff equal to that of yours makes up for much of the damage demon archers seem to think they out put.

    in fact no - it would be less than equal to a demon archer's buff because they crit more anyway lol... nice try.
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  • Sint - Harshlands
    Sint - Harshlands Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    itt: Bhavvy QQing because, i assume, he was stupid enough to go sage and realizes it still sucks, wytche QQing to buff his postcount?
    NestFreemark - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Maybe because archers are funb:puzzled An assassin might have the advantage in PVE, but an archer is still awesome in PVP. A sin and archer of equal skill and gear are pretty much on par with one another.

    and NestFreemark showing us how well you can avoid pvp on RT by equating fish and archers.

    ijs, there's fish running around with more DPH than my r9+12 archer. They also have more dps. They also have more chi, more def, more control, more crit, more stealth, more speed, more surv., more ailment evasion, and more money.

    Please, do explain how a sin with my gear can 1shot me from stealth and still be on par with me lol.

    hai der shootn.
  • ReckUrWorld - Lost City
    ReckUrWorld - Lost City Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    stun arrow + quickshot - 10% crit 50% atk speed. GG.
  • SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver
    SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I still enjoy being demon and I'm still not high enough to say I'm godly. But I do feel that way most of the time lol
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