grind bots in PWI

Surekill - Heavens Tear
Surekill - Heavens Tear Posts: 70 Arc User
edited November 2012 in General Discussion
i been playing this game a while now and only this year i been seeing a lot or playing using a program to grind coins and drops and maybe exp pwi need to fix the bot problem
if a player can sit at his/her desk and play the game then why come to a game to let a program do it for you. i find it funny as hell that pwi dont do nothing about this. and also find it funny watching a boter try to pick up 1 coin i drop in front of it. ppl need to get real and play your toon and stop letting a program do it for you.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    PWI cannot check every person that is log on each servers, if you see a bot take SS or made a video and send a ticket.
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  • fuzzywuzz
    fuzzywuzz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Players submitting tickets with screenshots to report botters is one of the best ways to have said person taken care of. Fuzzy would suggest taking the minute or two to do so every time you come across one.
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  • y4kuzi
    y4kuzi Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    A screenshot or video does not prove anything.
  • Mor_Toran - Sanctuary
    Mor_Toran - Sanctuary Posts: 457 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    y4kuzi wrote: »
    A screenshot or video does not prove anything.

    If your screenshot or video includes you asking them if they are a bot, and not getting a response while the character in question continues to farm, it DOES in fact prove botting.

    True, they could just not be answering you, but that's on their end. I know for sure that is someone asked me if I was botting I would reply to prove I wasn't.
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  • y4kuzi
    y4kuzi Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    If someone PMed me with that question, won't even bother answering it because I know I am not botting.
    In fact, I don't answer any blue PMs at all when I farm/grind.
  • mrcharlytoo
    mrcharlytoo Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Mor_Toran - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If your screenshot or video includes you asking them if they are a bot, and not getting a response while the character in question continues to farm, it DOES in fact prove botting. .

    All it proves is that they haven't answered your question.

    They might not have understood the question (maybe they don't read/write the same language as you).

    They might have been insulted by your question and decided to ignore you.
  • Nariin - Dreamweaver
    Nariin - Dreamweaver Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'm pretty sure they check logs if person has been using any additional program, and that's the proof. They just can't check it for every person, all the time... so they do it when someone reports a possible bot.
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  • lordhanzo
    lordhanzo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    y4kuzi wrote: »
    If someone PMed me with that question, won't even bother answering it because I know I am not botting.
    In fact, I don't answer any blue PMs at all when I farm/grind.

    I do that too, when I'm in grinding mode, usually I will open many browser tabs + play a marathon movie, or playing other offline game on my phone and only go back to pwi client when the mob dies then click tab + keypad 1 to attack.
    Or click heal on the 2nd client if necessary.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    who cares. botting in this game is highly inefficient
    and they cant really sell the coin for money either, the company does that already. safe.

    let them bot, better than phishing account information
    cause the real massive amounts of coins are on the players
    especially the population of west arch trade center

    getting into one of those billionaire accounts is the jackpot!
    who cares if they can make 1 mil coin botting 24/7
    i like potato
  • Descendus - Lost City
    Descendus - Lost City Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I saw someone post this in another thread about botters a while ago; Just keep dropping 1 coin and make a trail that leads the supposed 'bot' away from the area it was in, if it's a genuine bot, it'll follow you to 1k (if you have the patience to go that far), if not they'll get bored and go back to what they were doing, but just take SS's as you do this or a video and submit it in a ticket, undeniable evidence that it is a bot then. b:pleased
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Descendus - Lost City wrote: »
    I saw someone post this in another thread about botters a while ago; Just keep dropping 1 coin and make a trail that leads the supposed 'bot' away from the area it was in, if it's a genuine bot, it'll follow you to 1k (if you have the patience to go that far), if not they'll get bored and go back to what they were doing, but just take SS's as you do this or a video and submit it in a ticket, undeniable evidence that it is a bot then. b:pleased

    lol.
    now i want to find a bot
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  • SpeedxBolt - Sanctuary
    SpeedxBolt - Sanctuary Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Descendus - Lost City wrote: »
    I saw someone post this in another thread about botters a while ago; Just keep dropping 1 coin and make a trail that leads the supposed 'bot' away from the area it was in, if it's a genuine bot, it'll follow you to 1k (if you have the patience to go that far), if not they'll get bored and go back to what they were doing, but just take SS's as you do this or a video and submit it in a ticket, undeniable evidence that it is a bot then. b:pleased

    Why make them follow ya to 1k?

    If you are on a PvP server, just lead them away from the mobs and then proceed to kill them.

    If on a PvE server, just lead them into a world boss and watch the carnage <3
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    y4kuzi wrote: »
    If someone PMed me with that question, won't even bother answering it because I know I am not botting.
    In fact, I don't answer any blue PMs at all when I farm/grind.

    When I grind, I'm usually not even looking at the chat box. I'm looking at whatever movie I've got playing. All I do is hit tab, my attack skills, and my loot button. If someone wants my attention, they better be on my friend list, because the pink text is about the only thing that will catch my eye.
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  • Ninuska - Lost City
    Ninuska - Lost City Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    SpeedxBolt - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why make them follow ya to 1k?

    If you are on a PvP server, just lead them away from the mobs and then proceed to kill them.

    If on a PvE server, just lead them into a world boss and watch the carnage <3

    actually, the program those people use is so advanced, that it even sends them back to town and flies back to the spot. always to the same spot. I have been pking them, but that just doesn't help, it makes no sense, just that I'm red for nothing.
    I have reported them repeatedly using the ingame report thing, but noone EVER replied and those same people have been doing it for weeks, I could name several on LC...
    but yeah, this is really annoying. and as to reply to someone who said they are earning 1m in 24h of grinding... seriously? on double drops I am able to grind 1 million worth drops in less than 1 hour on my archer...
  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ninuska - Lost City wrote: »
    actually, the program those people use is so advanced, that it even sends them back to town and flies back to the spot. always to the same spot. I have been pking them, but that just doesn't help, it makes no sense, just that I'm red for nothing.
    I have reported them repeatedly using the ingame report thing, but noone EVER replied and those same people have been doing it for weeks, I could name several on LC...
    but yeah, this is really annoying. and as to reply to someone who said they are earning 1m in 24h of grinding... seriously? on double drops I am able to grind 1 million worth drops in less than 1 hour on my archer...

    I've been told that in-game GM button doesn't really work and that it's best to use the ticket system here on the site.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    y4kuzi wrote: »
    A screenshot or video does not prove anything.

    True, but if they receive a report ticket they probably will investigate before take any action.
    Mor_Toran - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If your screenshot or video includes you asking them if they are a bot, and not getting a response while the character in question continues to farm, it DOES in fact prove botting.

    True, they could just not be answering you, but that's on their end. I know for sure that is someone asked me if I was botting I would reply to prove I wasn't.

    I personally often don't answer my pm when I kill mobs, sometime my chat is just off or something like that, so that prove nothing to pm and ask if the person is a bot. Sometime if i grind the spider and have a group of 40 on me i don't have time to reply.
    y4kuzi wrote: »
    If someone PMed me with that question, won't even bother answering it because I know I am not botting.
    In fact, I don't answer any blue PMs at all when I farm/grind.

    ^That.
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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    If you get a blue PM asking if "are you there" or "bot?!!?" etc., it's in your best interest to answer even if its a few moments later, the user asking is likely tired of bots & is poised to report.

    Consider posting a video link in your report as well as a screenie, because GM's can pull info off of the screenies that we can't see.

    I do several things before reporting depending how obvious it is.
    -check equipment endurance; not always best cause daggers wear down fast especially on a aps build character, but either way it gives a good idea.
    -look for misuse of skills; this happens because of the random mob sub stats which throws off timing.
    -1-coin drops; this is tell tale when they're trying to pick them up repeatedly.
    -suspected bot picks up DQ's & coins but no other items that don't stack.
    -does not respond to any chats; this should be done in several chat forms as not everyone has all chats open on every channel.

    If your still not sure, report anyways...if that user is in the clear then there's nothing for them to worry about.

    *leaves thread* ( i got my own anti-bot crusade on arch server atm).
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  • chrineal
    chrineal Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Where do people encounter these so called "bots"?
    I travel around the map fairly often and I have never seen any of these bots that people were talking about!?
  • Cathulion - Dreamweaver
    Cathulion - Dreamweaver Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    y4kuzi wrote: »
    If someone PMed me with that question, won't even bother answering it because I know I am not botting.
    In fact, I don't answer any blue PMs at all when I farm/grind.

    I have to say the same for this....I don't have time to respond "no"...I could drop dead in a minute because of that. I'm focusing on the mobs and trying to kill them. Doesn't mean I'm botting as he just said.

    Solution: If you truly think they are botting and have a high lvl of your own, record and get on high lvl character and kill their mobs. See how they react(character wise movements and if they rage at you for KS'ing, if no response obviously a botter)
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Solution: If you truly think they are botting and have a high lvl of your own, record and get on high lvl character and kill their mobs. See how they react(character wise movements and if they rage at you for KS'ing, if no response obviously a botter)

    Now what if the "botter" is a +12 full r9 dd...
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  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Solution: If you truly think they are botting and have a high lvl of your own, record and get on high lvl character and kill their mobs. See how they react(character wise movements and if they rage at you for KS'ing, if no response obviously a botter)

    ^This. I very rarely, if ever, see botters around, but this is what I would do otherwise. Generally bots don't rage at you for stealing their mobs.

    If they don't reply or leave to grind elsewhere, then report 'em.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ^This. I very rarely, if ever, see botters around, but this is what I would do otherwise. Generally bots don't rage at you for stealing their mobs.

    If they don't reply or leave to grind elsewhere, then report 'em.

    I like to drop a coin trail leading to something they can't handle, like the area where a WB spawns.
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  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I like to drop a coin trail leading to something they can't handle, like the area where a WB spawns.

    I have nothing better to do with my life either.
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  • fuzzywuzz
    fuzzywuzz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I like to drop a coin trail leading to something they can't handle, like the area where a WB spawns.

    WB? What is this you speak of?


    It's been so long since Fuzzy has seen one they are almost becoming a rare mythical beast of legend... b:shutup
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bots are as rare as GM in game. b:shutup (joke joke :P)
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