Which is most overprices skill on your server?

Mooooooooo - Lost City

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

Diamond Sutra is actually the rarest skill in the game. End result of BMs having so many more skills than other classes.

http://pw.solandri.com/skills.html#cBMa

So you are saying you can get stone barrier from other than fb boss drop or the 5% chance in myst pages? please tell me how.

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary

For Sanctuary Prices they go about like this:

Barb:
Demon/Sage Penetrate Armor-75m easy
Sage/Demon Beast King's Inspiration-25-35m

Veno:
Demon Parasitic Nova-40m
Demon Bramble Guard-10-15m
Demon Summer Sprint-15m
Demon Noxious Gas-15m

Sin:
Demon Subsea Strike-40-50m
Demon Dagger Devotion-18m

Psy:
Sage Bubble of Life-20m+
Sage Psychic's Will 20-60m
Sage Sandburst Blast-40-60m
Sage Aqua Impact and Spirit Blast 20m+

BM:
Demon HF-60-90m
Sage/Demon Bell-25-35m
Demon Diamond Sutra-15m

Wizzie:
Demon Stone Barrier-30m easy

Cleric:
Sage/Demon Ironheart and Revive-15-20m
Sage Chromatic Healingbeam 12-18m
Sage Celestial Guardian Seal-40-60m

Archer:
Demon Barrage-40m
Demon Quickshot-20-25m
Demon Stunning Arrow-25m easy

Most of the other skills are between 1-12m there are a few that I personally have no clue, because there is either A. no market, or B. no profit.

These are just the prices of the books that I know on our server and I know these prices personally because I have merched most of them.

Longknife - Harshlands

Demon Torrent.

CapnK - Sanctuary

Mooooooooo - Lost City wrote: »

So you are saying you can get stone barrier from other than fb boss drop or the 5% chance in myst pages? please tell me how.

Nope, that's also a hard to get skill. But at least the FB boss option is there so some sin will farm it sooner or later.

augustfinknottle

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nope, that's also a hard to get skill. But at least the FB boss option is there so some sin will farm it sooner or later.

Not like OBP can't be farmed in Advanced Cube AND Delta AND Tournament AND CoA. Chance of a boss dropping a specific book is usually (always?) under 1%. So in raw numbers, Stone Barrier is rarer than Diamond Sutra.

Another thing that contributes to a book become rarer in market is the number of people playing that class. For instance, it's much easier to find rare sin books for sale than it is to find rare wizard or rare cleric books, because there are way less people making them.

That's what makes Penetrate Armor so rare: most barbs don't care to make OBP skills, because you can get all the OBP skills for barb from the Advanced Mystical Pages, all at once, penetrate armor being the only exception and not worth the trouble of trying an average of 10 times for a book that's inferior to another skill everyone have (devour), while diamond sutra gives 10% extra crit, and highland cleave can work ar an axe-cyclone heel (but is most wanted for the fact that it's one of the most used AOE skills). Anyway, simply the number of people playing BMs should be enough to make it a far less rare skill than Penetrate Armor and maybe stone barrier too.

The reason you see more stone barrier selling than diamond sutra is because it drops for anyone, so I can get stone barrier on my sin, which is useless, so I'd sell it. Diamond Sutra is only made by BMs, usually aiming for that very skill, so they just won't sell them, giving the impression of it being rarer.

Edit: Stone Barrier is probably not as rare as diamond sutra, though, because there are way more people killing aba bosses than there are people opening BM OBP books.

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary

augustfinknottle wrote: »

Not like OBP can't be farmed in Advanced Cube AND Delta AND Tournament AND CoA. Chance of a boss dropping a specific book is usually (always?) under 1%. So in raw numbers, Stone Barrier is rarer than Diamond Sutra.

Another thing that contributes to a book become rarer in market is the number of people playing that class. For instance, it's much easier to find rare sin books for sale than it is to find rare wizard or rare cleric books, because there are way less people making them.

That's what makes Penetrate Armor so rare: most barbs don't care to make OBP skills, because you can get all the OBP skills for barb from the Advanced Mystical Pages, all at once, penetrate armor being the only exception and not worth the trouble of trying an average of 10 times for a book that's inferior to another skill everyone have (devour), while diamond sutra gives 10% extra crit, and highland cleave can work ar an axe-cyclone heel (but is most wanted for the fact that it's one of the most used AOE skills). Anyway, simply the number of people playing BMs should be enough to make it a far less rare skill than Penetrate Armor and maybe stone barrier too.

The reason you see more stone barrier selling than diamond sutra is because it drops for anyone, so I can get stone barrier on my sin, which is useless, so I'd sell it. Diamond Sutra is only made by BMs, usually aiming for that very skill, so they just won't sell them, giving the impression of it being rarer.

Edit: Stone Barrier is probably not as rare as diamond sutra, though, because there are way more people killing aba bosses than there are people opening BM OBP books.

Stone Barrier is made with Mysterious Pages and isn't as rare as what ppl think. Ive randomed 3 of them in about 15-20 chances. It isn't rare at all tbh.

TerrormodeON - Harshlands

donno on other servers,but on HL prices are artificially rised,but i guess the discussion is about what skills are most expensive or sell good etc. from what i sold so far,these books have been most profitable

BM:
Demon HF - 80-85mil
Demon/Sage Bell - ~30-35mil

Barb:

Sage hp buff - 35-38mil although sold couple for 42 mil too
Sage titans buff - 35-38mil
Sage roar - ~20mil
Sage/Demon Armageddon - 40-45mil
Demon Sunder - 30-35mil

Cleric:

Sage Revive - 17-20m
Sage IH - 15-16m

Psy:

Sage Bubble of life 20-25mi sometimes
Sage Psychic Will 18-23mil

Assasin:

Demon HeadHunt - 20-21mi
Sage BP - 50+mil always

Wizard:

Sage/Demon Stone Barrier - easy 30-31mil
Sage BIDS - 45 even 50m
Sage Mountain Seize - 25-30m
Sage Blade Tempest - 25-30m

those are skills that still sell and work to make profit from them,at least worked for me.

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary

TerrormodeON - Harshlands wrote: »

Sage BP - 50+mil always

lol? You can get every sage skill for less than that. It's 4.5k tokens to get the whole bookclip. That comes out to 45.4m with our token prices. The book sells for 30m on our server, but for some reason ppl try and mark it up.

TerrormodeON - Harshlands

ofcourse you can get it a lot cheaper,and even if u dont get the skills from first try,need to keep trying,in the long run u will get it cheaper then paying,but these are the prices ppl (including me) sell for. as i said,prices are artificially raised,but on the other hand why shouldnt i sell for that price if others do? beside,how would it be if u sell for 25mil and another guy buy from you and resell for 40-50mil+?wouldnt it be a waste?

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol? You can get every sage skill for less than that. It's 4.5k tokens to get the whole bookclip. That comes out to 45.4m with our token prices. The book sells for 30m on our server, but for some reason ppl try and mark it up.

Uh, no.

Book clips come with most, or all, of the 92 skills, and one or two 99 skills.

However, yes, Sage BP is obtained from a book clip.

Some of the other more useful skills for Sage Sin, however, are not obtained from the book clip.

I believe the book clip has weapon/elemental mastery too.

And BM has the most expensive book clip. >_>

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

An extra 3 seconds of HF means 50% more time added, which is a substantial amount when it comes to high DPS of squad members.

On RT Demon HF still ranks as the most expensive in my opinion.

Wendigo - Momaganon

somebody sold a dark HF for 35mill via world chat bidding.
also dark/sage barb HP buff running like this price
sage purge is 25-30mill
sage vortex around 20-25 mill

obp is 250-300k, pof 300-350k

report from momaganon

Horosho - Lost City

Demon HF does 100% damage over 9 secconds with aditional 5975 damage

Demon HF does 100% more damage.

Zhu - Lost City

I got [O Barrage of Arrows] on my third pack attempt, cost me around 16m after I sold the other books. I believe I got all the demon archer skill books for about 50m total.

Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary wrote: »

Barb:
Demon/Sage Penetrate Armor-75m easy

This is seriously disturbing b:shocked

Okui - Heavens Tear

Aside from demon Heaven's Flame, the other most overpriced skill book that I have seen on Heaven's Tear server is sage Celestial Guardian's seal, which I have seen go for at least 50mil. I would only assume that it can be that overpriced because it's a heal that you can use if you're in metal mage mode, but still, it doesn't heal for much.

supertroyman1

lost city.

demon heavens flame by far. 100 mil minimum

Baby_pho - Heavens Tear

Okui - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Aside from demon Heaven's Flame, the other most overpriced skill book that I have seen on Heaven's Tear server is sage Celestial Guardian's seal, which I have seen go for at least 50mil. I would only assume that it can be that overpriced because it's a heal that you can use if you're in metal mage mode, but still, it doesn't heal for much.

the demon one which doesnt even heal you gives u 900 mp, I've seen those go for like 90m but ofc who would be stupid enough to buy it for that price.

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Uh, no.

Book clips come with most, or all, of the 92 skills, and one or two 99 skills.

However, yes, Sage BP is obtained from a book clip.

Some of the other more useful skills for Sage Sin, however, are not obtained from the book clip.

I believe the book clip has weapon/elemental mastery too.

And BM has the most expensive book clip. >_>

Yes I am aware of this. You are on my server, so you should be seeing me selling books all the time and should know that I know this... Bm is the most expensive because it has the most skills. Each book is 30 pages times 16 is 480 pages. The price for each bookclip is depending directly on the amount of skills each clip contains.

Okui - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Aside from demon Heaven's Flame, the other most overpriced skill book that I have seen on Heaven's Tear server is sage Celestial Guardian's seal, which I have seen go for at least 50mil. I would only assume that it can be that overpriced because it's a heal that you can use if you're in metal mage mode, but still, it doesn't heal for much.

Also, it is a heal that generates 0 agro, and stacks. You can spam buff someone that is pulling mobs, or that doesn't have agro on all mobs and still heal them.

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

Would have to be Demon HF for BM's 80m-95m on my server DW. Demon SS is 55m, understandable for 7 more seconds. Sage Vortex for 50m+, Demon BOA 50m-100m(not exactly sure), Seeker sword mastery sage for 50m+,and so on.

Namari - Dreamweaver wrote: »

From my understanding, on DW no one's seen a Sage Wood Mastery for Mystics...ever. Judging by that, pretty sure that'd go for a pretty penny despite the fact that masteries only add crit/extra damage.

It would be rather cheap. There aren't that many active mystics, therefore a lower popularity in a class means less books to be seen supporting it selling-wise in AH or world chat. When was the last time you saw a sage HF? Probably never, because sage is the lesser chosen path for BM's. It all depends on the class and sage/demon path for such things to be seen.

shakdacat

People are selling sage bloodpaint atm on HT for 55mil+.
You can buy 10 books including bloodpaint from the myst librarian for 50mil when tokens are around 11k - 12k. Most people sell all the other books and some even bloodpaint, for around 75mil, making a 25mil profit. If you got the 10 books (inc. BP) with the 300 adv myst pages and sold all the other 9 books off, you would effectively have gained Bloodpaint for less then 40mil, 15mil more then what people think it is worth. What a scam. These rip off merchants are the scum of the game. DONT BE RIPPED OFF. Before buying any skill look into acquiring it cheaper through tokens. Both the Boutique in Arch and the Myst Librarian in Thousand Stream trade particular pages for books.
I acquired many skills worth 20mil+ for less then 5mil, in most cases this way.



sage, bloodpaint, blood paint, expensive, cheap, save, make, coin, lulz

ZaioBaio - Raging Tide

Venomancer Demon Poison Nova

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Necro +1 b:pleased.

Thought of the day, now that most people get r9 3rd cast, g16/g15, will skill prices go up?

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Necro +1 b:pleased.

Thought of the day, now that most people get r9 3rd cast, g16/g15, will skill prices go up?

They don`t need skills nor have them, mash a random button and u can kill any1, as long as it`s not a positive skill (heal, buff, etc.) b:laugh But there is no reason for skill prices to go up, unless they make seat/abba last boss non soloable.

Terrastrike - Lost City

Last week I made Sage Blade and Sword Mastery with OBPs on my first try. Sold it for 90m after two hours afk in catshop. As far I know, demon HF does go for slightly higher than that though.

ovenusarmanio

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