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    Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited October 2012 in General Discussion
    So we all heard of City of Abominations or Jungle Ruins, I think? And a lot of us rage at powerleveled newbies.... So how about making FCC a timed instance? So you can only access it from X to Xam and X to Xpm. that way you also give european players the possibility to fcc on an american Server, unlike the events which are often at 3am for me.... (I'm GMT+1 btw). This way people can't buy exp rooms all day.
    (Or just make the minimum level for players to enter lvl 75)
    So what would be your opinion? Please also post your reasons.
    (If you're a powerleveled newbie, also plz post thatb:chuckle)
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    • Posts: 5,369 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      **** no.

      Seriously, just NO.

      We don't need yet another instance being tied to time zones. Seriously.
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    • Posts: 34 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      I have a lvl50 veno. I don't know wether or not I'm powerleveled. Guess not if I don't really know what that means lol (explanation?).
      Events during different times of the day would be great. I live in The Netherlands so for instance the bidding thing starts at 20:00 which is 5 am for me :(
      I do pull all-nighters on this game but not often. I assume FCC stands for Frost Covered City (wasn't sure until I thought about it.
      Anyway, events a little bit more in our timeslot would be great. I created an account and started playing, only to later find out I was on an US server.
      Which is weird because I didn't remember choosing it and there are European servers. I think Archosaur is great though. Lots of people late at night :)

      However, I don't think there should be a limit on when you can enter where. The less restrictions the better. If something is too hard, I'll just try and level up and try harder ;)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Or we could stick some non moving Turret like mobs with an agro range of 40 meters around the instance and anyone who comes near it with a low level will die. b:chuckle
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    • Posts: 110 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      KawaiiJen wrote: »
      Or we could stick some non moving Turret like mobs with an agro range of 40 meters around the instance and anyone who comes near it with a low level will die. b:chuckle

      I vote for that option o_o
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    • Posts: 3,162 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Hey...
      Its bad enough that Old Unicorn Forest is only accessible at certain times as is (unless you store the completed Hero's Blood quest, and even then your stay in that world is time limited).

      Let's not add such a feature to yet another place. b:scorn
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    • Posts: 3,395 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Stop being so buthurt about not people outlvling you
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    • Posts: 4 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Bad idea. Why restrict it when people can do it whenever is convenient for them right now?

      And no, I haven't done FC, nor do I plan to until I'm actually high enough to run it myself. I just think putting time limits on instances is moronic. Nothing's stopping you from doing runs at the times you want to now -- put a time limit on it, and some people won't be able to do runs at the times they want to.

      It's not even logical.
    • Posts: 3,765 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Dragoneast - Sanctuary wrote: »
      So how about making FCC a timed instance? So you can only access it from X to Xam and X to Xpm. that way you also give european players the possibility to fcc on an american Server, unlike the events which are often at 3am for me.... (I'm GMT+1 btw).

      Brilliant, you've created a solution for a non-existent problem, and given a great idea how to create that problem.
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    • Posts: 4,864 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      Stop being so buthurt about not people outlvling you

      Stop making useless comments. Powerleveling has had many negative effects on the game's community and I'm fairly sure you know that, too.


      Either way, the simplest fix would just be removing the FF entrance, putting an NPC outside of FF in its place and have it teleport you inside. Said NPC would only teleport you if you are 75+.
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    • Posts: 1,328 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      KawaiiJen wrote: »
      Or we could stick some non moving Turret like mobs with an agro range of 40 meters around the instance and anyone who comes near it with a low level will die. b:chuckle

      b:pleased__Just make sure they fire off {Harpywraith Rounds} at a rate of (60 a minute!) at any parties which are listing repeat (lowbie's) so that even the (high lvs) that make it a fulltime business too breed these mistakes of nature, can take a hint on choosing (well thought of moderation) or join in on the fun......b:chuckle



      But more seriously though (time zoning) the instance times, just wouldn't be right to do too the actually (on the level players)




      I always thought the best thing too do for it, woulda been too allow the {(75ths-84ths) 1-run a day~per character "that are at those levels" // (85ths-94ths) 2-runs per day~per character // (95ths & Up) 3-runs per day~per character) woulda been the Best thing to do to squash (Fail Baby) Spawnings....

      That way even the (high Lv's) who constantly run the (Fail Baby Runs) constantly, as a cash cow! Couldn't do so indefinately! (Yes it would only make them charge more {(per spot) / per run} but if your seriously using them to get too FaIl BABY'Dom! without bothering to do questing at all! Then You Should Pay Through The Nose, TILL Your Broke!! And then have no other choice but too go back too AcTuAlLy QuEsTiNg (OMG!) In the first place... Just like everyone else does.......
      b:pleased



      And btw. those {runs (#)s limitations} would be Quite Character Specific... So no bleeding over (other characters runs) that're on your roster aswell (too 1~single character).... It would drastically limit {Fail Baby BREEDING} most effectively & quite quickly too.....
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    • Posts: 311 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      Stop being so buthurt about not people outlvling you

      im not, im trying to find a solution to help the people who are annoyed by plvl'd ppl
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    • Posts: 671 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      No.
      This is a poor solution that makes more of a problem than currently exists. There needs to be fewer timed things in this game, not more.
      Its a dynamic MMO, with people in all kinds of timezones, work and school schedules, real life schedules. Timed public events are one thing, but people should not be bound by timed instances for normal gameplay. Yes, FC done right is a normal gameplay instance.

      The only real solution to the problem of power-levelling FC's is to truly limit the level of it to keep anyone below level 75 out of it. Either forcing absolute no-admittance in some way or severely nerf the exp for the entire squad to such a degree if someone below the minimum required level is in squad noone under 75 would be worth having or taking (or just anyone under 75 can only get 1 or 2 exp per mob)
      It's called level-scaling and other games already have systems that do things similar to this.
    • Posts: 3,034 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      No because we already know that time zone based events simply SUCK for Europeans!
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    • Posts: 2,256 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Dragoneast - Sanctuary wrote: »
      im not, im trying to find a solution to help the people who are annoyed by plvl'd ppl

      I have two ways to deal with power lvled noobs

      1) Ignore them completely, kick them from squad

      2) If they are nice, showing interest and willingness to learn, teach them what you know.

      Everyone starts a beginner, just depends if you want to help them or not. Some people start beginners are 100+ b:chuckle now a days rather than 1 b:laugh.
    • Posts: 1,154 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
      **** no.

      Seriously, just NO.

      We don't need yet another instance being tied to time zones. Seriously.

      This, way to many events/instances are already tied all to the same time zone. I don't think it's a solution to have all powerlvl nubs being american, as this would lead to discrimination towards those off the same time zone. Next we will get "fast nirvana lf 5.0 +10 G15+ FROM EUROPE OR ASIA"

      To stop powerlvled idiots, put a culti/lvl requirement on hyper stones. Just putting it on the instance will only shift powerlvl service from sins up north to seeker in the south.
    • Posts: 3,407 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      To add onto Kawaii's suggestion, I think that the turrets should have an agro detection level of 85. If it detects anything under level 85, it will fire at them and kill them! Otherwise 85+ players won't get shot at, and all is well.

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    • Posts: 1,052 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      nah,its already has a 4 hour time limit,maybe make it 2 hours,but making it a timed event like the ones they have now,nah.I played like 1 jungle event and that was the first night it came out,why? Because of the sloppy time it come on in the east coast..11pm or 12am and by that time im sick of the game and want to go to bed.
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    • Posts: 311 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      OK, so guess notb:surrender tho ideas are never wrongb:victory
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    • Posts: 276 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Dragoneast - Sanctuary wrote: »
      OK, so guess notb:surrender tho ideas are never wrongb:victory

      The idea that ideas are never wrong is terribly wrong, though.b:chuckle
    • Posts: 6,009 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Dragoneast - Sanctuary wrote: »
      OK, so guess notb:surrender tho ideas are never wrongb:victory

      There are good ideas and bad ideas. b:avoidb:laugh

      :\ Probably dating myself here though. xD
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    • Posts: 7,021 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
      To add onto Kawaii's suggestion, I think that the turrets should have an agro detection level of 85. If it detects anything under level 85, it will fire at them and kill them! Otherwise 85+ players won't get shot at, and all is well.

      :D

      Should be 75+ for those of us that go there for the quests.
    • Posts: 276 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      truekossy wrote: »
      Should be 75+ for those of us that go there for the quests.

      Meh, I'd stretch that to lvl 70 - assuming there'll always be a first person to reach lvl 75, he'll need help from his 70+ friends (in the case of, say, a brand new server) in there. Not much lower than that, though.
    • Posts: 6,009 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      truekossy wrote: »
      Should be 75+ for those of us that go there for the quests.

      Yeah, I can understand why people think the cut off should be 85 since that's when you can open it. But there are quests in there for people 75+ so anyone in that range has legitimate reasons to be in there.
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    • Posts: 87 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      L0l can s0me0ne actually name a pr0blem p0wer leveling has caused that was n0t already a pr0blem?
    • Posts: 311 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      BanMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      L0l can s0me0ne actually name a pr0blem p0wer leveling has caused that was n0t already a pr0blem?

      erm how else do u want to powerlevel a character really fast if u cant use fcc?
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      I do not have much,
      I do not miss much,
      I have love and friendship,
      To compensate for that!
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      Started in genie patch :)
    • Posts: 235 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Limitations on instances suck. EU and AEU limited runs are bad as is with so few a week, anymore dungeons put on any sort of limitation would do some serious damage to the game. I know some games do this sorta stuff but as you can guess that never truly works out in the end to become a "popular game".

      Simple solution to FC power lvling newbies:

      MAKE IT 75+ TO ENTER.

      They did this with Heaven and Hell for 89+ so why can't the same thing be done for FC? It was always intended for 75+ anyway(and 85+ to some extent to open and summon bubble boss).
    • Posts: 3,723 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Why not add a party level range restriction as part of the "quest" to enter FC as well? To enter the instance all party members must be 75+ within what - 10 levels of each other? I don't claim to pay attention to the level range restrictions for max exp :s

      Anyone added to squad outside of that level range at any point = quest fail, everyone gets booted from instance, instance resets.
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    • Posts: 69 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      There are good ideas and bad ideas. b:avoidb:laugh

      :\ Probably dating myself here though. xD

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    • Posts: 3,765 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      Dragoneast - Sanctuary wrote: »
      OK, so guess notb:surrender tho ideas are never wrongb:victory

      ahh the old "there are no bad cookies" defense

      though stretching that defense around ideas is somewhat torutured

      there are no bad cookies because good and bad are moral quality judgements, and cookies are just inanimate objects. and while a cookie may not be one you would want to eat, or may have been poorly cooked, or may even be poisonous, it is still not a bad cookie. at least not in the sense that acts can be bad.

      however acts are generally the actualization of ideas, and if there can be immoral or bad acts, which im sure we can all agree there can be, there can also be bad ideas. if that is the direction you are taking things.

      in the alternative you are saying that an idea can not be wrong, because the idea itself is not an assertion. and while the assertion that "2+2= 5" is wrong [inb4calculus] the having the idea "2+2=5" floating around in you head, without asserting the validity of that idea is not, in itself, wrong.
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    • Posts: 308 Arc User
      edited October 2012
      I think KawaiiJen has a FAR better idea.

      It's not really about how often you can go in there, it's the fact that there's no level restriction.

      It took about 9 months for fiance and I to get to lvl86. With little to no frost (we went in a few times to see what it was like, but don't think we hypered).

      After taking a couple months to play another game, we came back and realized we'd kinda hit a speed bump. So I said we could frost. I wanted my Sage skills lol.

      But honestly, I don't think people should be allowed into frost until level 75ish. You miss out on too much by power leveling all the way up. And it's not difficult to get to 75 without Frost. I think putting a level restriction on frost would put a little more "community" back into the game. Right now, it seems like people are basically punished by everyone for not power leveling. Our lack of community means lowbies don't get BH quests done for weeks at a time (been there, done that), or it could take a month for them to get their culti done (also been there).

      There aren't enough lowbies to make a proper squad, and the high level folks don't like helping people.

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