Started a wiz

bank05

Well i have a lil wiz now and i am thinking about what wepon i should get her. The endgame thread sayes r8 wep (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12647) now thats one of the weps i am considering, but the second wep i am considering is the beamhoof slicer (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/8432), since i wanna try going for channeling. most of the wizzards i have asked for guiding me don't even know about that wepon. It has a lower attk and item leve but then again +10% channeling and i hope to put channeling shards in it.
This is what i am imagining (i will get chanbelt+nec but also a second pair of physical ornaments i havent exactly decided yet what i will go for though) http://pwcalc.com/58aa65f866aec4bc
Please i really would need a second opinion for a noob wiz, ty all!

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

well tbh. thats a pretty fail build


what exactly is your reason for this channeling obsession?

are you going for dps?
then im sorry to tell you that 30% more chan than others wont make you hit 30% faster. since casting time will stay the same . as well as delay and cooldowns

so you basically hit 20% faster than another wiz. but the other wiz hits double of your damage per hi!
+the other wiz has 5 times your pdef
+ the other wiz has more hp
and the best thing: his weapon cost was 2 mil.


i do agree channeling is very useful
especially when casting long channel skills like mountain seize
(im 30%)
but not at the cost of extreme loss in damage
and even worse defensive ability

that build.. 1k pdef... mobs 1shot you
4k hp is low already. even for pure caster standard
nobody expects 10k .but you should have at least 5
abd more or equal pdef self buffed

you know wizards spend a great deal of pve time in dragons breath?
channeling doesnt matter there
but defense

if you try to enter tw with that build you will die to every smallfry
unrefined r8 archers gonna hit you for 10k
while your damage will be to low to kill much

when you need channeling for a short time you atill have sutra. dspark. dquaff and apoth

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

hex check out my video thread, faceroll is a channeling mage. and really makes it work lol

bank05

HexOmega, ty for concerning about my p.def but as i mentioned i will get phy belt/neck though i am not sure which ones, i guess u will not aprove cube belt/nec dosnt matter wasnt interested in a pvp build since i will prolly have 2 different sets considering i understand i cant wear only magic stuff and hope 2 survive. then again i don't do pvp...
My question while posting was "what wepon i should get her?" not what armor i should get. u posted a nice long answer, but sadly u didnt answer my question
"he other wiz hits double of your damage per hi!" how does the other wiz do double dmg? didnt understand that exacly, i guess it depends on the wep of the wiz.

Nurfed_You ty for the tip i will check it out in 5

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

http://pwcalc.com/386a50bbab17d442

this could work for like caster vana. you would do around the same damage per second as a full r9 mage. 62% base channeling >87% w/ demon spark 82% w/demon quaff.

Instead of investing in 2 sets of gear if you decide to do tw/pvp you could go full r9 and have right around the same dps and you wouldnt be as squishy. if you decide to keep that build, i'd invest in some -9 channeling or -12 channeling rings and ditch the mdef orns permanently as well as ditching the tt99 for some -9 channeling or -12 channeling bracers.

If you look at the video thread, faceroll's build is in his signature i believe. try to build like that as its one of the only ways to really make a channeling build work well

bank05

ty that is a good idea i will certanly copy ur comment and think about your advise

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

aw so many typos, i shouldnt post from my phone
hi! = hit, he = the __Q_Q

i remember, when i got rank8 we had a wiz with a +10 beamhof in fac
the weapon damage of my fresh +3 r8 sword was the same-ish
beam is more than outdated


aah and one thing. those rings suck. sell them if you can xD, if you go for r9 weap you can use r8 and r9 ring right away. i think the defense is laughable
especially when you look in the difference in offense




i just hate when people die all the time cause they wear channeling ornaments every time
its so annoying. nobody should wear channeling gear in AEU >.>
instead of "dealing more damage" (lol caster) they slow down squads

Ruvil - Sanctuary

chan build is pretty much a failure, if you cant hit atleast 85% w/ quaff dont even bother... if you can you probably sacrificed your pdef/hp/atk + def lvl/crit and 1st born child...

its fun to play, and there are some sick combos/plays you can make but most r9+12 josd will just chuckle as you shoot at caster 5 aps and deal like 900 dmg/hit, then they will kill you in 1-2 hits.

im actually running around PWV atm w/ 71% base casting and +12 r999 wep and 2 r999 armor peices (im using +12 sleeves of sea captain lol...). managed to kill a quiet a few r9+12 JOSD players (archers, bms who forget marrow, int sins...) but mainly because they sucked b:chuckle

gettin my *** surgically attached to my forehead by anyone who's any good. would b different story if u had say 2x -18 rings and could go full r999 while sacrificing very little

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

1st borns are overrated

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

willing to sacrifice sirrobert for r999
no? for a slice of cake maybe?

Dragoneast - Sanctuary

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

well tbh. thats a pretty fail build


what exactly is your reason for this channeling obsession?

are you going for dps?
then im sorry to tell you that 30% more chan than others wont make you hit 30% faster. since casting time will stay the same . as well as delay and cooldowns

uhm how come -30% chan doesnt give wont make you hit 30% faster, i get the cooldown thing but how comes "since casting time will stay the same"?

kawaiijen

Dragoneast - Sanctuary wrote: »

uhm how come -30% chan doesnt give wont make you hit 30% faster, i get the cooldown thing but how comes "since casting time will stay the same"?

Casting time is not effected by channeling gear.

If you check all skills, they have a channel,cast, and cooldown timer.

The channeling gear impacts the channeling time only.

So let's say you use a skill like

BIDS

The channel is 4.0 seconds
The cast time is 1.6 seconds

30% channel reduction cuts the channel down from 4 seconds to 2.8 seconds but you still have that 1.6 cast time.

So the total spell time went from
5.6 seconds to
4.4 seconds which is only a 21.5% faster total casting time.

Now let's say we use it on a skill which a much lower channel time but very similar cast time.

Glacial Snare

Channel time is 2.1
Cast time is 1.8

30% channel reduction cuts it down from 2.1 seconds to 1.5 seconds with the 1.8 cast time
Total spell time from
3.9 seconds to
3.3 seconds which only a 15% faster total casting time.