Exp in Squads.

HrunsPanda - Archosaur
HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
edited September 2012 in General Discussion
This page sais that there is an experience penalty for squads when the difference between the highest and lowest character in the squad is more than 20 levels.
http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Experience_Points

Yet the FC runs are always done with a maximum 10 level range and noone will accept 1 level out of that range.

Is the information on this page i linked wrong or outdated, has the formula been changed maybe but not the page ? Or did for some reason everyone just start to believe it is 10 and did this become common knowledge even though this "knowledge" is wrong ?
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  • Vasanta - Lost City
    Vasanta - Lost City Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    People do not realise, that they receive less exp from mobs, becaue their level is higher than mobs level, not because someone is higher than the squad level range is b:surrender
  • Mor_Toran - Sanctuary
    Mor_Toran - Sanctuary Posts: 457 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Hmm.. that may be incorrect.

    Plus it doesn't have the exp table for a 10-person squad. (which doesn't affect FCC, but we can now do it in Morai.)

    Here's a calculator.
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  • _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver
    _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 753 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Hmm.. that may be incorrect.

    Plus it doesn't have the exp table for a 10-person squad. (which doesn't affect FCC, but we can now do it in Morai.)

    Here's a calculator.

    is it just me, or is your calculator brokenb:question <.<

    Edit; fixed https://public.sheet.zoho.com/public/sylenthunder/squadexpcalculator-1
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  • Dragoneast - Sanctuary
    Dragoneast - Sanctuary Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    i have hard alot of rumours about being 99 can change stuff alot, but that lvl 99 is the only case... like it doesnt belog with 90-98 nor with 100+...
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    There's multiple factors for the EXP.

    The first is the level range of you comparatively to the mobs which affects a majority of your EXP which is why PV is MUCH better. The second which is a very SMALLER % is the level range of your squad. It only is impacted noticeably after 20 levels. Optimally 10 level range is the best but the closer you approach to 20 level gap the higher the penalty is incurred.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I can confirm the 20-level gap xp reduction. I've been in a full squad before with a character more than 20 levels away and the instant they leveled everyone in the squad was receiving twice as much XP. There is nothing significant about a 10 level gap after that but the level of the highest person in the squad matters a lot for FCC mobs.
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Ok, thanks guys.

    The linked calculator uses the formula as given on that webpage so i assume that formula is correct.

    KawaiiJen, there are indeed multiple factors in the exp. This very small % of the level range is not about level range as so, it is about your level compared to the average level of the squad. And the further you are away from that, the further the exp you will receive differs from the average. Exp is split according to player levels.

    So assume for example you are killing a mob with the following levels in your squad:

    90
    80
    80
    80
    80
    70

    That is total 480. Now if a mob gives for example 960 exp. That means the lvl 90 will get 180, the level 80s will get 160 and the level 70 will get 140, for a total of 800 combined.
    Of course if you take out this level 90 and replace it by another 80, everyone gets a little more exp. However if you take out the 70, everyone will get a little more exp ! So this is not about a smaller range being better, it is about being low level relative to the rest of the squad providing you less exp.

    Very unfortunate the whole community seems to think a range of 10 is very important thus needlessly causing squad making to be much more difficult than needed. :(

    And indeed of course as poster 2 says, the highest level is important. Above lvl 90, the mobs will start providing less xp in FC.
  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Also have to remember high lvls in the squad take exp away from lower lvls.
  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Mitachi, we have a saying for people like you in holland: "Spuit elf"

    Find someone dutch to explain it to you.