Seriously, the hell with this market

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  • StarianNight - Dreamweaver
    StarianNight - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Agree...there are people that simply DO NOT want melee classes,they enjoy magic classes the most and they're very penalized on farming most instances out there.
    The game's mechanic and the playerbase kinda "pressure" you to quit your magic toon and roll some aps fish/BM

    Caster Vana helps but 1-2 runs at day(or more depending on BHs),doesn't makes counts even.

    I don't know...but I just don't understand why people are so...biased (maybe not the right word) against casters. My main is a 101 cleric with an alt 89 mystic, so i mainly farm on my cleric. Never really had a problem farming. Yeah, it was really hard getting my first piece of nirvy armor, took me about 3 month? But, by than I have learned some techniques of farming, met some people who are good to run with, and learned how to merchant a tiny bit. I do....about 2-3 casters a day, since I do all my BHs, And spam about 7-8 per day during 2x, stealing hubby's talis. that's more than enough to get me the gear I need b:chuckle So, I really really don't get how some casters complain so much, I mean drop rate in caster is wayyy better than regular nirvy, and we can farm even when it's not 2x! And we can get more talis now, with the 5k prest and 30 influence, we can buy talis from corona b:dirty

    Back on topic, I think it makes sense for the mats to drop in price since it's so easy to farm nowadays compared to before and almost everyone just roll an aps character. And as for why cannies and raps are stable around 250k and 1.3mil buy price during 2x....it's probably because of r9r?
  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    StarianNight - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I don't know...but I just don't understand why people are so...biased (maybe not the right word) against casters. My main is a 101 cleric with an alt 89 mystic, so i mainly farm on my cleric. Never really had a problem farming. Yeah, it was really hard getting my first piece of nirvy armor, took me about 3 month? But, by than I have learned some techniques of farming, met some people who are good to run with, and learned how to merchant a tiny bit. I do....about 2-3 casters a day, since I do all my BHs, And spam about 7-8 per day during 2x, stealing hubby's talis. that's more than enough to get me the gear I need b:chuckle So, I really really don't get how some casters complain so much, I mean drop rate in caster is wayyy better than regular nirvy, and we can farm even when it's not 2x! And we can get more talis now, with the 5k prest and 30 influence, we can buy talis from corona b:dirty

    Back on topic, I think it makes sense for the mats to drop in price since it's so easy to farm nowadays compared to before and almost everyone just roll an aps character. And as for why cannies and raps are stable around 250k and 1.3mil buy price during 2x....it's probably because of r9r?


    Dear Star.. I Do 3 or 4 caster vana runs per day during not x2 and I do some merch too and let me tell you that is almost impossible to achieve any kind of good gear on a reasonable time this way , even on x2 and runnning caster paying openers on 3 - 4 man squads I can do maybe 1/4 of what an aps fish can do, plus for example during not x2 a fish can easily sell fc for example having an fc ready for sale in 30 to 40 min , that s what usualy takes form - complete and split a caster vana and unless u r running on 4 man squads is not guranteed that u will get 1 mil or more profit of a caster vanan run, pwi hates casters and that is a fact, maybe the gear you need is not something great but if u r looking for g16 or r9 with good refines and at least some good shards doing that with a caster only will be really hard and annoying, I have my wizzard and a 5aps bm with demon HF and is still really hard for me... you should see that and realize that in this game being a caster only is really hard.

    Ps: With fish i refer to the stupid OP ''I spark auto attack spark auto attack all the time'' Sin''
  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Regular Nirvana sucks. Casters sucks because it seems random when you can actually get a squad together. Some days there are like 8 different squads doing multi runs, most days you have to trade in your tali because its going to expire due to NO ONE (or at least no one you WANT to run it with) doing it.

    Sadly one of the people that wcs for runs the has some of the saddest gear and lowest hp I've ever seen on a 100 toon. Their runs only have about a 50% success rate, which for casters is unacceptable.
    Regular Nirv sucks? Want to elaborate on that? Or are you just referring to the aps squads? Because as someone who's not a caster OR an apser, I can tell you right now all you need is a few good guildies and a regular nirv key. No worrying about success rate, no BS about requiring wep link or any of that. It's a massive mistake to assume that you can't do regular nirv just because the twitchies in WC whine about "efficiency" all the time.
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  • TempleSlave - Lost City
    TempleSlave - Lost City Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Naturion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    TT green matts hardly selling if u dont sell a bunch of stacks for 100-200k, gold matts takes awhile to sell now. Cannies they sell for what around 250k? x534523 freakin nirvana runs getting a stack of cannies selling them all for a retardedly cheap price.
    Seriously wth, even if you farm like mad for months we would still not make as much we used to do around 1-2 years ago when everything sold soe asily and when green matts actually sold for abit more then 8 stacks for 100k.

    Forgodsakes bring in some new content and not a "new expansion with new instances to do in instances we already have". Well morai stuff a new contant but lol, yah lol at that right? b:chuckleb:laugh . Wouldve been great tho if rank 9 gears was farmable, kinda like lets nirvana that you have to farm a certain amount of matts to make the gears but yah to late for that now anyways.

    My opinion make Nirvana drops permanent with x2 drops, and with the x2 drops making it not effected by x2 drops so we get 4 chests per run. That way can atleast farm nirvana daily instead of waiting for x2 all the time and people could actually work for r9 refored 3d set daily.

    That's because the game is close to death. Almost all farmable and minable mats are worthless. There is no new userbase that needs them. They're no longer necessary and anyone who needs them will use a high level alt to farm them.
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    M_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    what GMs has to do with pwi ?


    ofc its GMs fault why we have empty servers with 90% of alts....if they ever listened to comunity or did something for player base, that wasnt affecting their wallets thing would be way diffrent

    its no wonder private servers are counting more players then official ones


    gm did not give up updates devs from pwcn does....

    gm did not make anything really when it coems to classes instances.

    buqtique come from up from pwcn directive as what we is on sale r9/aps packs

    GM they to hear our problems have to do with hacks and sht...... nothing else....

    GM have no controll what the comunity will do when new games will come aside from guesing like you and me....
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Dear Star.. I Do 3 or 4 caster vana runs per day during not x2 and I do some merch too and let me tell you that is almost impossible to achieve any kind of good gear on a reasonable time this way , even on x2 and runnning caster paying openers on 3 - 4 man squads I can do maybe 1/4 of what an aps fish can do, plus for example during not x2 a fish can easily sell fc for example having an fc ready for sale in 30 to 40 min , that s what usualy takes form - complete and split a caster vana and unless u r running on 4 man squads is not guranteed that u will get 1 mil or more profit of a caster vanan run, pwi hates casters and that is a fact, maybe the gear you need is not something great but if u r looking for g16 or r9 with good refines and at least some good shards doing that with a caster only will be really hard and annoying, I have my wizzard and a 5aps bm with demon HF and is still really hard for me... you should see that and realize that in this game being a caster only is really hard.

    Ps: With fish i refer to the stupid OP ''I spark auto attack spark auto attack all the time'' Sin''



    this is why i hate farmer qq.... you get money yes but wait you want money to compate without PAYIng for r9....bs

    why should you as a free loader farm easy to obtain thousen of dollar wort of gear...
    why cant you be happy with 2nd best gear you can obtain but no you want nr1 best gear and free...

    i was happy enough to run 7 nv yestirday and got money not much mind you but still payed for my pots and repairs and migh thelp me get 1st cast heavy foot...

    be happy you get money

    let the r9 player compete with themself and worry less about there investment



    maybe devs should make nv cash shop oriented too

    65 dollar for 1st piece of 3 nv pieces and then need 100 weeding candles to obtain the rest of the gear..... all directly from butique....

    ooh and lets remove gold from AH cos idk they might start to farm all free if we dont
  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Im just saying Nirvana gear takes too much time to get(unless you already have it and thus can farm a lot faster),and its not even the ultimate gear....

    Took me 3 months to get 5 pieces. I farmed everything on my cleric.
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  • Reliea - Sanctuary
    Reliea - Sanctuary Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I hate TT b:surrender
    I only do TT when its required for a damn quest, which I also moan about b:cry
    I have only ever farmed 1 piece of equipment (tt80green axes b:chuckle), and these days most of the time it's cheaper to buy made TT gear rather than mats anyway.

    Really the issue IS demand. Low demand. Very low.
    There are a lot of made TT items floating around that you can buy for cheap, so you don't need to make new ones yourself.
    There is almost no need to even have anything from tt70-80, since there's plenty of mold armor/weapons that are just as good, or even better.
    Morai 101 is a viable alternative to -any- TT (Yes it is! It is too damnit! It's not rNinethousandNineHundredn'NintyNine, but it's still good.)
    The majority of people can farm for their alts themselves, or stash-gear.

    If you resign yourself to sell for less, you'll make more money than trying to sell at a price no one's buying for though...

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