am i to squishy?

maxwel12
maxwel12 Posts: 22 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Psychic
so i am a psy who is lvl 100 and has r8 and i am pure mage i have 3,1k hp and 10k mana pool is this good or do i need to get more hp
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    maxwel12 wrote: »
    so i am a psy who is lvl 100 and has r8 and i am pure mage i have 3,1k hp and 10k mana pool is this good or do i need to get more hp

    If you had 5k hp, I'd still call you squishy,

    At 3.1k hp I'd most likely either write you off as a loss or leave any squad you joined. That's simply unacceptable HP. If I were to join a random squad on any of my tank chars and saw you in it, I would whisper the leader saying "he's going to die and I refuse to hold the boss till he gets back." You will get killed at pretty much anything who has a random aoe, BB or not.

    How is your HP that low AND your MP that low? As you clearly haven''t been adding anything but magic, your MP should be in the 12kish range if not higher, shouldnt it?

    Why have you not refined your gear at all, and why haven't you sharded it?

    Anyway long story short . . .

    Your HP is terrible and you should be ashamed of it. ASHAMED. I'm not kidding,

    I say this not intending to be mean, just intending to be helpfully sarcastic :3
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  • Subtraction - Harshlands
    Subtraction - Harshlands Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    How is your HP that low AND your MP that low? As you clearly haven''t been adding anything but magic, your MP should be in the 12kish range if not higher, shouldnt it?

    with standard gear and pure mag, 10-11k mp is the norm
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Here, try something like this.
    Its pretty minimal but quite affordable, and its better than what you're currently sitting at.
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  • maxwel12
    maxwel12 Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    If you had 5k hp, I'd still call you squishy,

    At 3.1k hp I'd most likely either write you off as a loss or leave any squad you joined. That's simply unacceptable HP. If I were to join a random squad on any of my tank chars and saw you in it, I would whisper the leader saying "he's going to die and I refuse to hold the boss till he gets back." You will get killed at pretty much anything who has a random aoe, BB or not.

    How is your HP that low AND your MP that low? As you clearly haven''t been adding anything but magic, your MP should be in the 12kish range if not higher, shouldnt it?

    Why have you not refined your gear at all, and why haven't you sharded it?

    Anyway long story short . . .

    Your HP is terrible and you should be ashamed of it. ASHAMED. I'm not kidding,

    I say this not intending to be mean, just intending to be helpfully sarcastic :3

    Wow man u made me feel really bad and yes i have refined my gear to +5 but i only put psychial defence shards so i think i wont be a one shot mister
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    maxwel12 wrote: »
    Wow man u made me feel really bad and yes i have refined my gear to +5 but i only put psychial defence shards so i think i wont be a one shot mister

    You don't have that low hp with +5 gears unless you use something like 80 levels lower <<
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  • Fail_BM - Raging Tide
    Fail_BM - Raging Tide Posts: 929 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You dont need phy def shards, try to get HP shards and 2 phy ornaments x_x
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You dont need phy def shards, try to get HP shards and 2 phy ornaments x_x

    this and what fatherted said.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    maxwel12 wrote: »
    so i think i wont be a one shot mister

    With 3.1k hp? You'll definitely get one-shot in certain situations (snakefist's AoE for example). For easier stuff you get 2 or 3-shot, big difference. You end up dead anyway.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    maxwel12 wrote: »
    so i am a psy who is lvl 100 and has r8 and i am pure mage i have 3,1k hp and 10k mana pool is this good or do i need to get more hp

    First Off... lets see your PW Calc... Goto : This Site and Show Your Goods

    After you are done with filling in your character's stats and gears on this site, just hit "SAVE", I believe some form of "OK" and then copy the www at the top of the page. Come back here and Paste it... then we can really discuss whatever improvements you might and can make based on full info.

    Don't listen to people that think hp shards are everything, cause +hps aint everything while taking more damage. It's all a balancing act really, so no reason for you to feel bad about yourself over arrogant statements that people can somehow find a way to make without even having the full picture. But what do I know? b:chuckle

    PW CALC then we continue...

    PS. Oh yeah... and I would take you on any deltas, casters, etc... cause even if you were that squishy, I'd still live. Some of us know how to not need to bring "op" people with us on such occassions due to knowing how to improvise & make up for others lackings. Hell, ive actually taken every class at one point or another through casters, and often bring sins (which i have capped at 2 sins now) into delta runs up to w3 without problems most of the time. (Worst mistake i made was 4 sins a bm and me, a psy... but we still managed past w2).
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  • maxwel12
    maxwel12 Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First Off... lets see your PW Calc... Goto : This Site and Show Your Goods

    After you are done with filling in your character's stats and gears on this site, just hit "SAVE", I beleive some form of "OK" and then copy the www at the top of the page. Come back here and Paste it... then we can really discuss whatever improvements you might and can make based on full info.

    Don't listen to people that think hp shards are everything, cause +hps aint everything while taking more damage. It's all a balancing act really, so no reason for you to feel bad about yourself over arrogant statements that people can somehow find a way to make without even having the full picture. But what do I know? b:chuckle

    PW CALC then we continue...

    PS. Oh yeah... and I would take you on any deltas, casters, etc... cause even if you were that squishy, I'd still live. Some of us know how to not need to bring "op" people with us on such occassions due to knowing how to improvise & make up for others lackings. Hell, ive actually taken every class at one point or another through casters, and often bring sins (which i have capped at 2 sins now) into delta runs up to w3 without problems most of the time. (Worst mistake i made was 4 sins a bm and me, a psy... but we still managed past w2).

    finaly a mature someone
  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    maxwel12 wrote: »
    finaly a mature someone

    Well tyvm b:cute... get that PW Calc & we can discuss...
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2012

    Don't listen to people that think hp shards are everything, cause +hps aint everything while taking more damage.
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    Have you tried using Asterelle's Socket/Survival calculator? I'm pretty sure it also suggested HP shards until one has a higher base HP from refines/gear bonuses. Until you've got enough of an HP pool to take hits, PDef sharding isnt as effective.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Have you tried using Asterelle's Socket/Survival calculator? I'm pretty sure it also suggested HP shards until one has a higher base HP from refines/gear bonuses. Until you've got enough of an HP pool to take hits, PDef sharding isnt very effective.

    He's a channeling psychic with a r6 sphere. There's no use in arguing with him.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I tried fooling around in pwcalc... You CAN have 3.1k hp with +5 r8 top, pants, sleeves and boots. Wearing no other gears at all. No shards. ...

    I'm not sure I wanna know what the hell the OP is doing.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Have you tried using Asterelle's Socket/Survival calculator? I'm pretty sure it also suggested HP shards until one has a higher base HP from refines/gear bonuses. Until you've got enough of an HP pool to take hits, PDef sharding isnt as effective.

    I tried Astrelles calculator before and told it I have 500 p.def and 10k hp. It still told me to add more hp shards. I don't know how its calculated but it does seem pretty biased towards them.

    @OP

    Whenever you do what gear should I wear? threads you should always include a calc and how much coin you have to spend. Otherwise its tough to say.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I tried Astrelles calculator before and told it I have 500 p.def and 10k hp. It still told me to add more hp shards. I don't know how its calculated but it does seem pretty biased towards them.

    I think I understand why:

    Citrines contribute to both Physical and Magical survival (as you have more HP to take damage from both) while Garnets only contribute to physical...and that lowers the average survival gained from sharding them. Being buffed/unbuffed also seems to affect which is favored - particularly, being buffed with Cleric/Barb/BM buffs would make Garnets more favorable while unbuffed, Citrines are better.

    *waits for OP's Character-Calc*
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012

    To be honest, no... aint never heard of this calculator yet, ill have to toy around with it... always irked me that one can not get survival indexs, and a few other statistics from pwcalc to boot... best i've had on that end of the spectrum up till now is my jungle belt acting as infinite eye of observation while looking over gears and stats comparatively... and i do a lot of peeking b:chuckle

    At least everyone that knows something agrees with one thing I stated... "need op's pw calc before we can comment"... based on the pw calc, we dont need to know how much coin or cash this guy has, knowing the cost of the gears they do have allows us to take a very good guess at what they are capable of having. Even if what they can have may take them a while. Lets say their most expensive piece is a jungle belt for instance... at 4 mil per stone x6, cost them about 24 mil... we can assume that they can potentially cough up 30 on a single item at that point and direct them from there...
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    He's a channeling psychic with a r6 sphere. There's no use in arguing with him.

    To clear this up, here is my pwcalc to the best of my memory (didnt bother goin online for this)

    http://pwcalc.com/d8b96ca9bb7bebb9

    Add to this +2% crit due to masteries.

    I am demon and missing 5 demon spells (earth vector, diminish vigor, soul of stun, glacial shards and psy will). I also do not have my 100 culti completed just yet, im up to sori in delta. all i have left in morai is my shroud spell practically from the beginning, atm i went back to grab the mount in corona (im like a week away on influence).

    I still find it amusing how many people focus on the wep or the fact that i do have 43% channeling base. I happen to be quite well geared compared to most at my level, and i have no intention of getting 101 yet (im at 0.0% toward it), let alone r9 gear (although i do already have the 300k rep for it).

    My set up works just fine on most occassions beside r9 and those that have high atk/def lvl bonuses. The only real thing i need to do to compete with those, is work my gear toward my intended set up http://pwcalc.com/409da23cb286bf85 . And the only real thing i need to learn pk is how to set up for black voodoo, jones bless swap, and trip spark to kill those i currently have issues against. That would simply take time to learn, of which i have not had much of lately.

    I might even be leaning toward http://pwcalc.com/64481af9c4b1a77f as my final L.100 set up? Ofc, this depends on some irl stuff happening right...
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited September 2012

    Hahahaha, thanks. I needed a good laugh.
    I might even be leaning toward http://pwcalc.com/64481af9c4b1a77f

    Hmm... wow, I'm impressed. That's actually a dece- wait.

    Still a savant in the weapon? Come on now.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    maxwel12, wheres the pw calc? these kiddies are getting boring b:sad
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Hmm... wow, I'm impressed. That's actually a dece- wait. Still a savant in the weapon? Come on now.

    What I really want is -50% chan and 30% crit base (28% on pw calc due to the +2% from masteries) = 50% crit wit tide b:victory

    hmm... how to get that and not mess up everything else there b:question
    that calc is almost there, missing -/+4% on each end
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Anyone else getting the weird impression OP is posting on another char...?
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    What I really want is -50% chan and 30% crit base (28% on pw calc due to the +2% from masteries) = 50% crit wit tide b:victory

    hmm... how to get that and not mess up everything else there b:question
    that calc is almost there, missing -/+4% on each end

    With that second build you posted it might actually work out, though you have a much higher chance of getting 2x +5 attack levels on the sphere than channeling.

    Though -12% on the sleeves, good luck with that. It's 0.5% chance per.

    Also, if you're gonna use a L:UAD, at least make use of it. R8Recast armor requires no STR or mag and the weapon only requires 44 STR.
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Also, if you're gonna use a L:UAD, at least make use of it. R8Recast armor requires no STR or mag and the weapon only requires 44 STR.

    oh cwap... i didnt even notice that. i just been assuming need 55 str, if not 56 for something. ill definitely need work that out better, easily re-statted
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Anyone else getting the weird impression OP is posting on another char...?

    yep... starting to think this might be a troll thread, unless he's having difficulty figuring out how to use pwcalc (which i have seen before on faction apps). only other possibility is he'll get it when he has time in a few more days? oh *psy*
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2012
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  • Tide_Surfer - Archosaur
    Tide_Surfer - Archosaur Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    *facepalm*b:surrender FULL R8 recast AND +12 it? And with that sharding? you could freaking afford full R9 for that, which is actually better than +12 on recast, look it up on PWI calc, it is. That is a foolish move for gearing in my thoughts. And if you're going for -chan on a psy, that is also foolish as channeling is already VERY short for a psy, casting time is what you need to worry about.
    This, my friends, is my endgame build: http://pwcalc.com/03b61ffee28c5758
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    *facepalm*b:surrender FULL R8 recast AND +12 it? And with that sharding? you could freaking afford full R9 for that, which is actually better than +12 on recast, look it up on PWI calc, it is. That is a foolish move for gearing in my thoughts. And if you're going for -chan on a psy, that is also foolish as channeling is already VERY short for a psy, casting time is what you need to worry about.
    This, my friends, is my endgame build: http://pwcalc.com/03b61ffee28c5758
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    lol... thats nice... everyone has their r9 third cast wishlist ofc... and try looking at the wep again... its not r8 recast... (**Edited: oh yeah, thats what you were looking at, my L.100 final build. I thought you were looking at my "now" build, was sleepin there. And that btw, aint my "final final build"... just my L.100 wishlist in order to stand a chance in hunting r9's without actually having r9)

    and btw... this would quite likely be better than what you were thinking http://pwcalc.com/66ea6898a404b531

    (**Edited: I'm not going into the channeling on psy's discussion yet again. To each their own.)
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  • Niteshadows - Harshlands
    Niteshadows - Harshlands Posts: 583 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You can't have the best of both worlds if you are not a major C$er. Look on the bright side, YOU HIT LIKE A BOSS!
    Do you hate me? Good, that makes for an adequate conversation starter.
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