How long does it take to add a CAPTCHA to account creation?

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
edited September 2012 in General Discussion
Seriously it's less than 10 minutes of work.
Derp derp. http://www.google.com/recaptcha
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  • Ajaa - Heavens Tear
    Ajaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    As much as I hate CAPTCHA, it should also be used for login too. A few other sites I log on to, use it.
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Seeing as how little time and effort goes into working on these forums, it's the least they could do to add one.
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  • Aurantiumina - Heavens Tear
    Aurantiumina - Heavens Tear Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    they have it for the "search with no login" forum function...
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  • crystalpink
    crystalpink Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    +1 to this topic
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  • Adilah - Dreamweaver
    Adilah - Dreamweaver Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    This spam is ridiculous. As much as I hate captcha's, they need to make one. And soon. b:infuriated
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Ajaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    As much as I hate CAPTCHA, it should also be used for login too. A few other sites I log on to, use it.

    There already is a captcha for when you login with wrong password twice in a row.
    There is no captcha for account creation

    Thats where these bots are coming from.
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  • KingCrash - Dreamweaver
    KingCrash - Dreamweaver Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    They aren't paid enough to make one.
  • RydaMusPryme - Raging Tide
    RydaMusPryme - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    or a captcha to make each post....
  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Bumps for posterity
  • Book_worm - Raging Tide
    Book_worm - Raging Tide Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Aurantiumina - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    they have it for the "search with no login" forum function...

    cosmetics only, the captcha on search has no function whatsoever. you get search results even if you chose to ignore the captcha. b:chuckle
  • Kremia - Lost City
    Kremia - Lost City Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously it's less than 10 minutes of work.
    Derp derp. http://www.google.com/recaptcha

    Yeah is really easy
    so that means it will take 5 months of work for our gms     b:bye
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  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Captcha is more of an annoyance than a help. There's a program that does a great job at bypassing Captcha, then there are the monkeys they pay to spam which bypass it too.
  • MissingNo - Lost City
    MissingNo - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    i hate CAPTCHA sometimes they are hard to read
  • TempleSlave - Lost City
    TempleSlave - Lost City Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously it's less than 10 minutes of work.
    Derp derp. http://www.google.com/recaptcha

    It wouldn't matter. One PW account can spam multiple forums, so these spammers would have no problem doing that manually.

    There are plugins that could be installed, but this version of vbulletin is so butchered, it might not work correctly.

    They could set the minimum time needed to post again to something like a minute.
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  • _Thia_ - Dreamweaver
    _Thia_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Why bother, it doesn't give money ....
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »
    It wouldn't matter. One PW account can spam multiple forums, so these spammers would have no problem doing that manually.

    There are plugins that could be installed, but this version of vbulletin is so butchered, it might not work correctly.

    They could set the minimum time needed to post again to something like a minute.

    It's a robot so it would just set the timer to post every minute instead of every 30 seconds. Which is the current minimum.

    Perhaps make it so that you can only make 1 new thread a day until you have a certain post count. None of them seem to have one over a 100 for example.
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  • Purple_fury - Sanctuary
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It's a robot so it would just set the timer to post every minute instead of every 30 seconds. Which is the current minimum.

    Perhaps make it so that you can only make 1 new thread a day until you have a certain post count. None of them seem to have one over a 100 for example.

    or how bout a in-game lvl requirement before they can post on the forums like some other games do.

    somewhere around lvl20-30 shouldnt cause to much of a problem
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary wrote: »
    or how bout a in-game lvl requirement before they can post on the forums like some other games do.

    somewhere around lvl20-30 shouldnt cause to much of a problem

    A lot of new players post asking for advice on how to stat their characters from the beginning. PWI already has a smaller amount of new people coming in then they should, so I don't think they should do anything that makes it unfriendly for them. But if you're new and wondering what class you should play, it's easy enough to ask any followup questions in the same thread you first created.
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  • Purple_fury - Sanctuary
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    A lot of new players post asking for advice on how to stat their characters from the beginning. PWI already has a smaller amount of new people coming in then they should, so I don't think they should do anything that makes it unfriendly for them. But if you're new and wondering what class you should play, it's easy enough to ask any followup questions in the same thread you first created.

    yea your right :S and just remembering how it usually goes when the try to connect in-game content with the main site >.< its usually a nightmare. so yea its a bad idea b:shocked
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    b:thanks(b:pleased)b:thanks

    It would be nice, if they'd had this forum similar too {Youtubes forums} (Where you can mark & flag posts as spam, and have it disappear...) Even if that option was only to be given to all of us, for the (Threads Titles) window; atleast we could all scan the list of threads as users & then Flag the (Mass Spam) ones... "So that it could be set for something like ({6 flags~or so} from seperate users) and it would be dropped off the main Forums list and left in a (garbage bin) so the {MODs & Powers that be} could then look at them then, and then confirm {whether they are spam and then just (delete them)} or if their not spam, just simply {(restore them) if their not}"

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  • Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver
    Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously it's less than 10 minutes of work.
    Derp derp. http://www.google.com/recaptcha

    A CAPTCHA on login to the site would even suffice...thumbs up b:victory

    EDIT: and I highly doubt it'd even take a whole 10mins...but maybe I'm giving the PWI staff too much credit there b:laugh
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    MissingNo - Lost City wrote: »
    i hate CAPTCHA sometimes they are hard to read

    I've seen some (but I can't remember where) where they are really clear and easy to read. Those I don't mind.

    The ones where I have to refresh it 20 times just to get one I can fully read........ yeah, those suck.

    It wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea if it took into account the account creation date, highest level character on the account, and number of posts made by the account. (In other words, forum regulars would never end up having to be bothered by the CAPTCHA).
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I would add a captcha before login but before input the captcha I would add another captcha to be sure that who enters the next captcha its not a bot,and thus I would add a captcha to be sure that the one who enters the next captcha and the next one too isn't a bot,we may as well add a 4th captcha check in before log in case ...you known

    Oh yes the captcha its removed if the user has purchased a R9 set.
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  • Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver
    Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I've seen some (but I can't remember where) where they are really clear and easy to read. Those I don't mind.

    The ones where I have to refresh it 20 times just to get one I can fully read........ yeah, those suck.

    It wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea if it took into account the account creation date, highest level character on the account, and number of posts made by the account. (In other words, forum regulars would never end up having to be bothered by the CAPTCHA).

    This...I HATE the hard to read ones.
    Not this...a good CAPTCHA would be less complex and not all that annoying. The more complex of a solution, the more likely bad things will happen.
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This...I HATE the hard to read ones.
    Not this...a good CAPTCHA would be less complex and not all that annoying. The more complex of a solution, the more likely bad things will happen.
    It the CAPTCHA is easy to read, I won't mind it.

    The really frustrating to read ones make me more likely to just not bother with the site in question.

    And actually now I do remember where I've seen some that aren't hard to read. Recently Blizzard had some security breach, and of course, I immediately went and changed all my passwords. Then after that they set it so account holders would be prompted to enter new security question answers, since that information had been compromised. I had mixed up two of my account passwords, and had to enter a CAPTCHA when I tried again to log in. It was nice and easy to read, not a problem. (I also have an authenticator for each of my accounts, which would be a nice feature for PWE to implement, especially for people who have sunk large chunks of RL cash into the game).

    Do PWE accounts even have security questions? I can't remember ever setting one up.
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    bump for the first page
  • gouraudpalm2
    gouraudpalm2 Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    This is a very good way to bury controversial threads without deleting them.
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XRumer
    The program is able to bypass security techniques commonly used by many forums and blogs to deter automated spam, such as account registration, client detection, many forms of CAPTCHAs, and e-mail activation before posting. The program utilises socks and http proxies in an attempt to make it more difficult for administrators to block posts by source IP and features a proxy checking tool to verify the integrity and anonymity of the proxies used.

    -Just need admins on it
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »
    The really frustrating to read ones make me more likely to just not bother with the site in question.

    Agreed with this.

    If they add one to account creation only, I'd have no problem with that (and I think it is a good idea). But adding one to forum login/submitting posts would make things really annoying and possibly deter a lot of people from using the forums.
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  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Agreed with this.

    If they add one to account creation only, I'd have no problem with that (and I think it is a good idea). But adding one to forum login/submitting posts would make things really annoying and possibly deter a lot of people from using the forums.

    A few times of trying to get captcha right on a f2p game you just downloaded that you've never played before might turn you toward another game.

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