What nv magic wep is better?

Kremia - Lost City

Some pl say wands are better since they give more mag atk and some say glaives are better cause the chan
And anyways i see lots of ppl using swords, and no one using pataka, wich kind of wep is better at end game?
And why ppl hate patakas? they look cool

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

the difference is mostly damage range

wands have the smallest range and are therefore the most consistent
swords have a larger range than wands, glaives larger than swords, and patakas larger than glaives.

the average damage is pretty much equal.

patakas also have the added detriment of having a lower melee attack speed, so if you are building chi on something, you will build it the slowest with a pataka.

swords have the highest physical attack damage, which doesnt matter to most magic classes, but can make a difference for venos.

the biggest difference is for most casters is damage range, and consistency, you will get the highest hits with a pataka, but also the lowest. with wands you will always hit about the same.

Reliea - Sanctuary

To be honest it's really hard to choose between wand, glaive or magic sword.
For me I would choose Glaive for pretty much anyone. Sure the damage spectrum is large, but it has extra vit over the Wand for survivability, and extra magic over the Sword plus channeling, so I really think it is best for maximizing dd/heal output with little modification.

If you're going to 2nd/3rd cast I don't really believe it matters much at all which weapon you pick, so actually I would go with Pataka because I would assume it would have the least common appearance XD

Roseary - Sanctuary

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

patakas also have the added detriment of having a lower melee attack speed, so if you are building chi on something, you will build it the slowest with a pataka.

For this part I would suggest remove your weapon as hand to hand combat has a 1.25 attack rate anyway.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

the biggest difference is for most casters is damage range, and consistency, you will get the highest hits with a pataka, but also the lowest. with wands you will always hit about the same.

And this part I would say for damage you can use any of the 4 weapon types you prefer, but for healing you want the weapon which can give you the highest minimum magic attack since healing takes your minimum magic attack(base) + whatever the skill adds. I've seen wands have the highest minimum so I always try to use one of those if I can.

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

Wait what...?

Items Addons:
Amount:3+
Magic Attack +100 - 5%
Maximum Magic Attack +130 - 5%
Channelling -3% - 1%
HP: +350 - 10%
MP +310 - 9%
Strength +18~19 - 10%
Dexterity +18~19 - 10%
Magic +18~19 - 10%
Vitality +18~19 - 10%
Critical Hit Rate +1% - 9.5%
Critical Hit Rate +2% - 0.5%
Reduce Physical damage taken +2% - 5%
Atk. Level +1 - 9%
Atk. Level +2 - 1%
Def. Level +1 - 4%
Def. Level +2 - 1%
Unique Addon:
Probability to have an unique addon: 100%
Phys. Res.: +289 - 93%
Phys. Res.: +400 - 5%
Atk. Level +20 - 2%

Nothing wrong with weapons giving higher a higher survival rate, patakas are just fine. I'd actually use that if I was serious with mystic.

He was clearly talking about the G13 Patakas, which don't get +matk or -channel.

ponyduck

Roseary - Sanctuary wrote: »

And this part I would say for damage you can use any of the 4 weapon types you prefer, but for healing you want the weapon which can give you the highest minimum magic attack since healing takes your minimum magic attack(base) + whatever the skill adds. I've seen wands have the highest minimum so I always try to use one of those if I can.

^^This. It's precisely why as a cleric, I went with a wand. Highest base magic atk
means better heals.

Empu - Sanctuary

Kremia - Lost City wrote: »

Some pl say wands are better since they give more mag atk and some say glaives are better cause the chan
And anyways i see lots of ppl using swords, and no one using pataka, wich kind of wep is better at end game?
And why ppl hate patakas? they look cool

The avarage magic attack of all magic weapons is pretty much equal, the difference being the gap between minimum and maximum magic attack. Wands have the lowest gap, pataka's have the biggest. Magic swords and glaives are between both, not sure by heart in which order. It seems that both extreems are usually avoided : Pataka's being to unstable, wands having no spike damage. Clerics being the only class with an exception group that loves wands for their consistant healing with the minimum mag thing (as far as I've seen).

Specifically nirvana related, the unique add options of pataka's are not really appreciated. Besides the usual +20 att lvl with it's really low chance, pataka's get +phys defence most of the time. At the stage of the game where you go for that grade of weapon, that add really isn't something you would specifically want on a weapon. Wands and glaives got -channel instead and magic swords +crit. So, depending on class and build, most go for 1 of these 3 options. The difference is really the unique add options, the random ones being strictly the same as far as I know.

To that you can add that in general, pataka's were supposed to be the veno's weapon. For that, they often got 1 or more adds that keep foxform in mind (+phys def to be able to melee in AA and +phys attack), while avoiding pure caster adds. I never really got that, because the lower attack speed and physical attack with refine rate, makes pataka's the worse weapon type for veno's. But that's maybe just a personal issue. Overall, the TT/FCC/mold/etc pataka's don't really have the adds that are really desired by casters. That being said, some weapons are just so powerfull or cost efficient at a specific lvl, that this kind of preference becomes a non-issue. Mainly refering to veno rank weapons.

Moral of the story : If you like pataka's for the looks and you can live (or even prefer) all those points of how that weapon compares to the other magic weapons, go get it. Not like a nirvana pataka of any stage is going to gimp your character drastically.

Nv - Heavens Tear

Someone say nv? b:victory