Mystics are not considered AOE DDs ? True or Igonrance ?

LividLemur - Dreamweaver

Empu - Sanctuary wrote: »

At 100+, I see mainly all-class pets summoned really. Funnily, I recently asked a mystic friend why most mystics never have their summons out ...

lol at the sin guy pulling stuff outta his ***..


As for anyone with r9 gear can do x at x etc.. that is true.

However, specific to the context of delta, I have yet to find an r9 archer, wiz, seeker or veno that i cannot steal aggro from (in terms of the main group of mobs), at least temporarily xD.

Mystics ARE an aoe DD in delta and a good one if played with a clue. fact

As for psychics not stealing aggro from mystics in caster.. whut? O yes they can, with equal gear. Especially if u are healing ur pet o... at all. Storm mistress will still steal aggro from any r9 +12 char on last boss though, unless someone uses taunts b:laugh

lotta strangeness in this thread b:chuckle

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

Thats kind of uncalled for isnt it? Arent people entitled to any opinion anymore, without someone claiming they are mental?

I think most of the people posting regularly in this forum could use a good anti-depressant judging by the way they post, but you dont see me telling them that, do you?

Oh wait...I just did. b:chuckle

Search his past posts , bipolar syndrome etc


Having a different opinion is a good thing , it is the first step to a prosperous conversation , but when the poster has the mental level of a peanut and his tactic is to offend and discrimate the other one .... yes its clearly a psychological problem.

Example , in order to avoid defending his crumbling arguements he denied reading TeacYeon's post due to having color in quotes.

Does that sound normal , i don't think so.

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

For anyone who's actually played a wizard, it's actually no secret that we aren't very good AOE'ers in pve. Mobs don't care that we can do 200k damage in one slow, expensive aoe, because mobs are rarely one-shots. They also don't care that we can aoe from 30m away.

It's in TW and PVP where we are king of AOE damage. Players definitely care when they get hit once for 20,000 damage from 30m away.

But we're working off stereotypes. Wizards in MMO's are suppoosed to be the best at AOE. But it's just not true in PWI when it concerns pve.

Isn't the daamage you do however a part of a 2-3 hit kill. Lots os AoE wont help if mobs are already dead ? and i talk with endgame gear in mind

Brillance - Raging Tide

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Search his past posts , bipolar syndrome etc


Having a different opinion is a good thing , it is the first step to a prosperous conversation , but when the poster has the mental level of a peanut and his tactic is to offend and discrimate the other one .... yes its clearly a psychological problem.

Example , in order to avoid defending his crumbling arguements he denied reading TeacYeon's post due to having color in quotes.

Does that sound normal , i don't think so.

Did you not agree with him on quotes, claiming the lack of proper quoting was horribly painful to read - or is it just MY inability to properly quote you didnt like?

Do you think you sound normal, switching opinions based on who is saying something rather than what they are actually saying?

His arguements not crumbling if you actually read what he says...if you miss the context, then you missed the point, right?

Did you even read what you have in your own siggy - about degrading a discussion thread into complete idiocy?

Is an argument based on insults and degrading a person an argument at all when it comes to having a discussion? *shrugs*

P.S. Do you really think TaecYeon needs you to come in and insult to defend HIS opinion?

I'll add that if he is bipolar, he's probably rather intelligent as well. Emotional instability, IF it is present, does not mean a person doesnt know what they are talking about - doesnt elliminate their right to an opinion either.

TaecYeoN - Lost City

@Brilliance, Phoenix is definitely not defending my opinion, in a response to previous posts, Phoenix actually reminded me that although venos don't have those high hitting aoes(compared to other classes), they have aoes that help to compliment others.
And I agree, thumbs' argument is not crumbling but he is however making it harder to have a decent discussion by such tactics as insulting my ability to quote and my choice of text color just so he doesn't have to read my counter arguments.
If he had read my responses he would have known that I actually did agree with him depending on if he was making those claims based on a PVE situation or a PVP situation. In a game such as this, it is not wise to say that something is an absolute fact when in truth such claims are actually based on the situation which means means that a slight change could make a so called truth...actually false.

This thread's been derailed and as such I think it would be in the interest of this thread for us to simply say that we have provided enough responses to answer the OP's question. Just agree to disagree. Arguments are good when they stay on topic but it gets pointless when you start to attack one's ability to quote, choice of text color, or start insulting their cognitive ability instead of addressing the OP's question.

Brillance - Raging Tide

TaecYeoN - Lost City wrote: »

@Brilliance, Phoenix is definitely not defending my opinion, in a response to previous posts, Phoenix actually reminded me that although venos don't have those high hitting aoes(compared to other classes), they have aoes that help to compliment others.
And I agree, thumbs' argument is not crumbling but he is however making it harder to have a decent discussion by such tactics as insulting my ability to quote and my choice of text color just so he doesn't have to read my counter arguments.
If he had read my responses he would have known that I actually did agree with him depending on if he was making those claims based on a PVE situation or a PVP situation. In a game such as this, it is not wise to say that something is an absolute fact when in truth such claims are actually based on the situation which means means that a slight change could make a so called truth...actually false.

This thread's been derailed and as such I think it would be in the interest of this thread for us to simply say that we have provided enough responses to answer the OP's question. Just agree to disagree. Arguments are good when they stay on topic but it gets pointless when you start to attack one's ability to quote, choice of text color, or start insulting their cognitive ability instead of addressing the OP's question.

I agree Taec. I'm not sure the discussion needs to end though. This newb has a lot to learn, lol. *points at self* b:chuckle

TaecYeoN - Lost City

Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »

I agree Taec. I'm not sure the discussion needs to end though. This newb has a lot to learn, lol. *points at self* b:chuckle

As do I ^^

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

i'm the source of the scandal again


just to add , proper color quoting is different than mismatched quoting m again , im not offending your text abilities


can we just end this here ??? i'm still waiting for Burnout's response for encyclopedical reasons.

TaecYeoN - Lost City

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i'm the source of the scandal again


just to add , proper color quoting is different than mismatched quoting m again , im not offending your text abilities


can we just end this here ??? i'm still waiting for Burnout's response for encyclopedical reasons.

Scandalous you are =P

Brillance - Raging Tide

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i'm the source of the scandal again


just to add , proper color quoting is different than mismatched quoting m again , im not offending your text abilities


can we just end this here ??? i'm still waiting for Burnout's response for encyclopedical reasons.

"Quote:




Originally Posted by Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

no intentions too offend ... sometimes bad formating is frustating , no because if difficulty of the eye to process the information , but the whole confusion between different sizes colors paragraphing blah blah blah"


Im sorry, you were saying what now? What exactly is proper color quoting? Nvm, I would imagine if you ended it, it would easily end. ^^